Is Global Warming Real?

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Minor Axis

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Recently I caught An Inconvenient Truth on Showtime. When you see the chart that goes back 600 thousand years showing the all most mirror image correlation between CO2 in the atmosphere and the temperature, it is very convincing especially when you see where the CO2 level is today and the temperature trend since records have been kept.

Ok so as usual conservative forces, say "that does not prove anything". Of course they say that because having to do something about it will interfere with their business models.

Here is the chart. Note today's CO2 level:

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i believe in global warming.. i have to go to work soon but ill be back here a little later to explain my theroy..
they always try to prove whats great and iimpeccable wrong..Like Man going to the mooon, surely enough that had to be fake so they made all these shows, showing people how it "could" possibley be fake..
its bullshit.
its true.. do the right thing... its not like your harming anyone.. your making the world a better place to live in anyways.. should we really need a life or death sithcuation to get us people who live here to change the way we live all because we are lazy and have adapated to a life style which is very lazy and unconventional ?
seriously....you live heere, dont take advantage of it.. stop being sloppy and pick up your dirty lazy slack..
sorry guys, but i feel soo strongly about global warming.. im even considering going green once i do some more research on it..
ttyl\
ill be backk
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Global warming isn't the correct term really, what we're dealing with is climate change.

And before anyone jumps in and says that the earth goes through cyclical periods of warming and cooling, I recommend you read slightly further, because these cycles that occur in conjunction with the fluctuations of the orbit of Earth are not noticable within one's own lifetime.

There is no doubt among any independent science community that climate change can be partly or greatly attributed to human activity.
 

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Science has shown that gradual climate change is a natural phenomenon however carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide levels have increased to intolerable levels due to industrialisation since the 1700’s. Samples of ice cores show that we are now experiencing climate change so rapidly like has never been seen over past thousands of years.
 

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I saw "An Inconvenient Truth" at school once, I think that global warming is real, while some of it is of natural causes humans have had a huge impact on influencing the speed in which the earth heats up.
 

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I think the earth is warming.

However I also think that is has been doing so on and off since recorded history.

What bothers me most....Isn't the earths natural inclination to warm and cool....It's climate change, and to me folks seem to say the two in the same breath like they are synonymous, I would argue against that.
 

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And I'm sorry for saying this.....But Al Gore is a chicken hawk and a sensationlist...Not that I totally disagree with the theories he presents...

They are just not HIS...Is my point....Kind like the interwebz claim. Read a little bit about him and his "green home" and the carbon footprint it leaves....You'll probably find a different spokeperson.
 

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I think the earth is warming.

However I also think that is has been doing so on and off since recorded history.

What bothers me most....Isn't the earths natural inclination to warm and cool....It's climate change, and to me folks seem to say the two in the same breath like they are synonymous, I would argue against that.
And I'm sorry for saying this.....But Al Gore is a chicken hawk and a sensationlist...Not that I totally disagree with the theories he presents...

They are just not HIS...Is my point....Kind like the interwebz claim. Read a little bit about him and his "green home" and the carbon footprint it leaves....You'll probably find a different spokeperson.

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I think the earth is warming.

However I also think that is has been doing so on and off since recorded history.

What bothers me most....Isn't the earths natural inclination to warm and cool....It's climate change, and to me folks seem to say the two in the same breath like they are synonymous, I would argue against that.
:homo:

Global Warming is really a bad term.

i believe in Santa Claus..
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And I'm sorry for saying this.....But Al Gore is a chicken hawk and a sensationlist...Not that I totally disagree with the theories he presents...

They are just not HIS...Is my point....Kind like the interwebz claim. Read a little bit about him and his "green home" and the carbon footprint it leaves....You'll probably find a different spokeperson.

What Al Gore is promoting either has merit or it does not. The typical conservative response is to tear down the individual and to ignore the message or the truth of the message. Regarding the size of his house, I guess that means you hold in distain all those who live in mansions, including your political heros? I did read Mr. Gore has replaced his lighting and is putting in solar panels. You really don't expect him to move to a shack to prove his point do you?

I think the earth is warming. However I also think that is has been doing so on and off since recorded history.

And your conclusion is to not be concerned about it? What about the direct mirror correlation between CO2 and Temperature- liberal plot?
 

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What Al Gore is promoting either has merit or it does not. The typical conservative response is to tear down the individual and to ignore the message or the truth of the message. Regarding the size of his house, I guess that means you hold in distain all those who live in mansions, including your political heros? I did read Mr. Gore has replaced his lighting and is putting in solar panels. You really don't expect him to move to a shack to prove his point do you?



And your conclusion is to not be concerned about it? What about the direct mirror correlation between CO2 and Temperature- liberal plot?
Why should he be worried about something that's been happening since prerecorded history? It's a natural cycle...
 

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What Al Gore is promoting either has merit or it does not. The typical conservative response is to tear down the individual and to ignore the message or the truth of the message. Regarding the size of his house, I guess that means you hold in distain all those who live in mansions, including your political heros? I did read Mr. Gore has replaced his lighting and is putting in solar panels. You really don't expect him to move to a shack to prove his point do you?



And your conclusion is to not be concerned about it? What about the direct mirror correlation between CO2 and Temperature- liberal plot?

My guess, is that you assume that because I don't care for Gore, that I disdain liberal thought?

The two don't correlate...Number one he's not the liberal party....just a member.

Two being in the field of science it's my belief that yes there is a correlation, but the maufacturing of CO2 almost cannot be fully reversed.

And de-salinization of the ocean system particularly the gulfstream has a large impact on temperature, and atmospheric conditions.

Another thing you have to consider, is that it is easy to sell something when you have a name behind it,

There are as many reputable scientists that have dedicated entire careers to atmospheric condition theory, the oceanic system and it's impact on the weather and the earths own heating and cooling cycle that would agree along the lines I am mentioning.

They just don't get recognized because they don't get backing unless they can find a figurehead to sell the goods.

Bottom line, commingling Al Gore with this subject was a bad move on the part of the scientists because it once again becomes a political debate rather than scientific.

They don't belong in the ring together. And who really gives a fuck if I like Al Gore or not? The bottom line is he's not a scientist, and found a way to bring himself back to the forefront.

He's a chickenhawk hooray that he's making a stand on environmental affairs, and I do give him credit for the Love Canal tort, that was in fact his baby.

after that, straight to politics, and as far as I am concerned, that taints.
 

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Why should he be worried about something that's been happening since prerecorded history? It's a natural cycle...

Why is it so hard to comprehend- CO2 levels have not been where they are today in at least the last 600 thousand years, CO2 is where it is today due to human activity, and the temperature has mirrored CO2 levels as far back as we can measure. I did not say it was a sure thing but it is definitely a reason to be concerned.
 

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Why is it so hard to comprehend- CO2 levels have not been where they are today in at least the last 600 thousand years, CO2 is where it is today due to human activity, and the temperature has mirrored CO2 levels as far back as we can measure. I did not say it was a sure thing but it is definitely a reason to be concerned.


Perhaps we could pass down legislation for a once a week...Everyone in the country hold thier breath period?:unsure:
 

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And I'm really curious....Where does CO2 fit into a business model?

Cause I deal with them all day week in and week out....And I've never seen it..

I mean, I am all about conservation, and the energy industry has jumped through hoop after hoop with environmental regulations.

You have no idea what it looks like from the inside..
 

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And I'm really curious....Where does CO2 fit into a business model?

Cause I deal with them all day week in and week out....And I've never seen it..

I mean, I am all about conservation, and the energy industry has jumped through hoop after hoop with environmental regulations.

You have no idea what it looks like from the inside..


wow you are smart...who would have thought?:bowdown:
 

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And I'm really curious....Where does CO2 fit into a business model?

Cause I deal with them all day week in and week out....And I've never seen it..

What, you've never set aside funds for the CO2 expenditures? ;) Actually if your asking this question... ok, I'll give you a hint- how about environmental laws designed to curb CO2 emissions and effect the bottom line of businesses?
 

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What, you've never set aside funds for the CO2 expenditures? ;) Actually if your asking this question... ok, I'll give you a hint- how about environmental laws designed to curb CO2 emissions and effect the bottom line of businesses?


Environmental regulations pop up everywhere, last year it was SO2, this year there's a push to reduce carbon footprinting...

It's never ending
 
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