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Fox Mulder

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I know how you operate, and I'm not going to back and forth with you, so it's on you to check it out.

Ok--I checked it out and from what I could find he has a stellar military career--considered by most everyone as a true American hero--respected by other soldiers. Hell even your man, Barack Hussein Obama praised it:

Obama Defends McCain's Military Service, Ill. Senator Also Touts His Own Patriotism In Missouri Speech - CBS News

Obama praised McCain's service, and the Democratic candidate's spokesman rejected Sunday's remarks from a prominent supporter, retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who said McCain's years as a Vietnam War fighter pilot and prisoner of war did not necessarily qualify him to be commander in chief.

Although Obama did not rebuke Clark by name, aides repeatedly said that Clark did not speak on behalf of the campaign, reports CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic. Obama spokesman Bill Burton released the following statement: "As he's said many times before, Senator Obama honors and respects Senator McCain's service, and of course he rejects yesterday's statement by General Clark.”

I could not find one credible article (i.e. from a major media outlet--even the NY Times) that disparaged McCain's service record. In fact, I'd be shocked if I could find it anywhere from a credible source because it would be sheer stupidity--something you obviously are not immune from.

Okay--bullshit called--bullshit proved.
 
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I told Mulder, and I'll tell you.... do your own research. You both are nothing but confrontational internet bullies.

If someone posts something you don't agree with, you attack, and you attempt to discredit. Your arguments consist of distractions, and name-calling.

Notice that neither one of you posted anything about McCain's military record.... just attacks on me. LOFL!!!

Translation: You prefer to post bullshit and have it go unchallenged. Sorry--the backbone of Democracy is vigorous dispute. I can't discredit credible information. Your opinon on McCain's service record is not credible.

Its that simple.

Again--bullshit called--bullshit proven.
 

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Translation: You prefer to post bullshit and have it go unchallenged. Sorry--the backbone of Democracy is vigorous dispute. I can't discredit credible information. Your opinon on McCain's service record is not credible.

Its that simple.

Again--bullshit called--bullshit proven.

Oh surprise, surprise! All you found is warm fuzzies about McCain's military record. I'm shocked!

You found what you wanted to find. Anything that wasn't what you wanted to see.... isn't credible.... imagine that!!!

I know your internet skills are good enough to find out the truth. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

BTW, Obama's campaign will go nowhere near this angle, even though it is truth, it would be political suicide. Like Bill, er wacor, er whatever he calls himself here said.... it would be a losing proposition.
 

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Where did I call you a name? :confused


OK, sorry. You didn't... directly. :D

And I guess, that really isn't your style. IIRC, even when in you're in major aggressive mode... you always attack the statements.... not the person.

With all of the foul language flyin' around here... it kind of takes on that feeling, though.

Sorry again.

I'm standing by the McCain military record though. :D
 

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The post wasn't about Obama. And it wasn't about military service men and women in general.

It was about McCain's record. Period. Facts.

Another fact... McCain graduated 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy, and had a number of disciplinary problems.

Many who were there have said that the only reason he didn't get kicked out is because his father was an admiral.
So you want to attack McCain's service, but avoid Obama's lack of it entirely? McCain's "bad record" is a negative, but Obama not even having a miltary record is ok with you? That's the typical Democrat double-standard argument. The first ones to vilify Larry Craig is the same party that loves and keeps reelecting Ted Kennedy. :smiley24:
 

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So you want to attack McCain's service, but avoid Obama's lack of it entirely? McCain's "bad record" is a negative, but Obama not even having a miltary record is ok with you? That's the typical Democrat double-standard argument. The first ones to vilify Larry Craig is the same party that loves and keeps reelecting Ted Kennedy. :smiley24:

Yeah, McCain's military record should be an issue. How do you feel about his service record?

Obama didn't choose the military.... most people don't. That's not a double standard.

Are you saying that people who don't serve, shouldn't run for office?

Larry Craig?? Ted??? What do they have to do with this ??
 

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Yeah, McCain's military record should be an issue. How do you feel about his service record?

Obama didn't choose the military.... most people don't. That's not a double standard.

Are you saying that people who don't serve, shouldn't run for office?

Larry Craig?? Ted??? What do they have to do with this ??
I love McCain's record. I love the fact that when offered early release, he opted to stay because there were people who had been there longer than him. Yes, there is the Code of Conduct which says you are to get out as soon as possible and return to duty. But there's also a section in the Code of Conduct that says you are to accept NO SPECIAL FAVORS FROM THE ENEMY unless they are offered to everyone. What McCain did is amazingly brave and noble. It's called leading by example. Trying to take that away from him is an attack born in pure cowardice.

If I have to choose between someone who has served in the military and someone who hasn't for a position known as the Commander-in-Chief of our military, I usually will fall on the side of the vet. BUT there's more than one issue in every election. And on all the major ones, I side with McCain.

If you don't see it as a double-standard, then of course you wouldn't understand my example.
 

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I love McCain's record. I love the fact that when offered early release, he opted to stay because there were people who had been there longer than him. Yes, there is the Code of Conduct which says you are to get out as soon as possible and return to duty. But there's also a section in the Code of Conduct that says you are to accept NO SPECIAL FAVORS FROM THE ENEMY unless they are offered to everyone. What McCain did is amazingly brave and noble. It's called leading by example. Trying to take that away from him is an attack born in pure cowardice.

If I have to choose between someone who has served in the military and someone who hasn't for a position known as the Commander-in-Chief of our military, I usually will fall on the side of the vet. BUT there's more than one issue in every election. And on all the major ones, I side with McCain.

If you don't see it as a double-standard, then of course you wouldn't understand my example.

If you are OK with his history, and agree with him on the issues... then I respect your decision to support him.

:thumbup
 

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Uhhh--there's no guys being shot at in fox holes--that was World War II.

Not even a smiley?

Interesting your use of the term "grunts" to describe the men and women of the military--same way Kerry described them--speaks volumes about how you and your party perceive these people.

Another empty volume as I'm a veteran and was a low level officer so I'm dissing myself? "Grunt" is not a negative term unless your trying to turn the word into a negative for political purposes. Oh yeah, right wing Republicans are experts at that. Example: "secular judges".
 
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