Impeaching Bush?

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?

  • Yes, between the secret spying and the deceptions, it is justified to put him on trial.

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but not "high crimes and misdemeanors."

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • I don't know.

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
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Tim

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What are your thoughts on Impeaching Bush/Cheney?

It seems like it's in the news once again. MSNBC just did a poll and 427,794 out of 486,130 people want Bush impeached, that's 88% of the people polled. Holy shit, that's much higher than it was a few weeks ago. I know it isn't a scientific poll, but that's a lot of people that have voted for impeachment.

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What has he done that has been illegal? I know I've heard of wire tapping on US Citizens for national security purposes, but can they be proven?

Or is it directly lying to the public and going to war without an official congressional declaration of war?
 

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  • Initiating War: the crime against peace
  • Crimes Against Humanity - targetting civilians; destruction of basic services
  • War Profiteering and privatizing of national resources
  • Cultural genocide, systematic looting of art, archives and cultural institutions
  • Mass detentions, random roundups, & torture
  • Violating Iraqi sovereignty
  • Using prohibited weapons including cluster bombs and depleted uranium weapons
  • Stealing trillions from social services
  • Policy of Endless War targetting: Haiti, Palestine, Philippines, Korea, Cuba
  • False testimonies, lies and fabrications to the public, the media, the United Nations and Congress
  • Inciting bigotry, racism and a climate of fear.
 

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  • Initiating War: the crime against peace
  • Crimes Against Humanity - targetting civilians; destruction of basic services
  • War Profiteering and privatizing of national resources
  • Cultural genocide, systematic looting of art, archives and cultural institutions
  • Mass detentions, random roundups, & torture
  • Violating Iraqi sovereignty
  • Using prohibited weapons including cluster bombs and depleted uranium weapons
  • Stealing trillions from social services
  • Policy of Endless War targetting: Haiti, Palestine, Philippines, Korea, Cuba
  • False testimonies, lies and fabrications to the public, the media, the United Nations and Congress
  • Inciting bigotry, racism and a climate of fear.


Dig that! Too bad this is the story of most Presidential runs, just on more minor scales and more behind the scenes. It's almost less the President or Vice President (though I feel cheney is much more cunning in his endeavours, because I dont think they trust Bush with a lot of information.), and more with the whole political spectrum. Everyone in house and senate have always known, for the most part, what goes on with us around the world.
This war may have sparked a lot of protesters, or made people look at the government in a way they havent before, but shady deals go on year in and year out, with every new president and vice president. Since Washington, deals that restricted human rights in exchange for services or wealth, have been going on behind the scenes.
The whole system would have to be impeached (lol) to stop things like this from happening. (well, maybe not the whole system, but a lot of people within it,lol)

Oh yeah, you forgot the environmental record of the administration, trees are people too! Wait, what? (and the response and coordination during Katrina was pitiful)
 

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Well, considering he has committed treason by letting Scooter Libby go free, an enemy of the USA for undermining American interests, he has protected an aided a subversive force to the American people.
 

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Ugh....there is no liberal media....just like there is no conservative media. The media will report on anything that will get ratings, since they are in a ratings system. Its more about viewers than politics really.


But to say that people disagree with Bush because media outlets report on his screw-ups, i think, is folly. People make their own views and decisions.
 

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I don't think Bush would have been been elected twice if most of America hated him. Those are the true numbers, not unknown voters of an Internet poll. I agree with Bacon.
 

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I think the media is one of the major problem in this country...I believe that the media is one of the main reasons why so many soldiers have died in Iraq...the media being over there distorting so much of the truth every soldier over there has to walk on eggshells instead of do his or hers job to the fullest
 

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I don't think Bush would have been been elected twice if most of America hated him. Those are the true numbers, not unknown voters of an Internet poll. I agree with Bacon.

He got re-elected due to our faulty and out of date electoral college system.




I think the media is one of the major problem in this country...I believe that the media is one of the main reasons why so many soldiers have died in Iraq...the media being over there distorting so much of the truth every soldier over there has to walk on eggshells instead of do his or hers job to the fullest


Ive actually talked to quite a few Marines in my family and they prefer embedded reporters being there.
 

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I think the media is one of the major problem in this country...I believe that the media is one of the main reasons why so many soldiers have died in Iraq...the media being over there distorting so much of the truth every soldier over there has to walk on eggshells instead of do his or hers job to the fullest
I agree.
 

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He got re-elected due to our faulty and out of date electoral college system.







Ive actually talked to quite a few Marines in my family and they prefer embedded reporters being there.


I know many soldiers marines army and navy ok chair force too that have been over there including being over there twice myself and I don't know one other person that likes having the media over there...granted you got info from family so I will give you that much but in my opinion its not something someone can make an opinion about unless they have been there themselves...most of america gets their info from the news and a lot of the news is bullshit...things I've seen over there and things I've talked about with friends that have been over there are quite the opposite of what the media says...the media distorts a lot of truths to help make hating bush easy
 

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Its actually really easy to dislike Bush even if you leave the whole Iraq debacle out of the picture. He's just a really bad president.
 
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