i wont touch KFC again

[Peter Parka]

A lion also eats it's own shit and does other rather disgusting things. I hardly think it is the best thing to base your ethics on!

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

A lion also eats it's own shit and does other rather disgusting things. I hardly think it is the best thing to base your ethics on!

Killing a chicken is an ethical debate?

If we are so refined how come we are the only species that kills each other for no reason?

How far have we evolved really?

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm not debating about killing chickens, I'm debating about how they are treated before being killed and how I think it's disgusting to unnecessarily torture them while killing them.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I'm not debating about killing chickens, I'm debating about how they are treated before being killed and how I think it's disgusting to unnecessarily torture them while killing them.

Technically, the killing of any living thing isn't pretty though...Correct?

Semantics

 

[All Else Failed]

Not really, heres what I do.

"Mind says...We are hungry"

I say "Hmmmm Let's eat"

Mind says "Okay"

That's it. I do not follow it up with, "How do I feel about this"

I eat, that's how I do it.

If your a vegetarian, are you aware that veggies are ripped from thier roots, and shredded for your pleasure?

I'm not a vegetarian.

No, but there is a distinct difference between: "Hey, I'm hungry, I'll go eat something." and "I'm I'm hungry, I'll go out and hunt down an animal and tear it apart while its alive". Humans have the ability to prepare their food in civilized ways, other animals mostly do not.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I'm not a vegetarian.

No, but there is a distinct difference between: "Hey, I'm hungry, I'll go eat something." and "I'm I'm hungry, I'll go out and hunt down an animal and tear it apart while its alive". Humans have the ability to prepare their food in civilized ways, other animals mostly do not.

The food that you prepare in a civilized fashion...Was ripped apart by a machine someplace.

No moral high ground please.

 

[All Else Failed]

Killing a chicken is an ethical debate?

If we are so refined how come we are the only species that kills each other for no reason?

How far have we evolved really?

yes, things involving life is a major part of ethical studies.



No, we are not the only animal that kills each other for no reason: Watch other apes.


We have evolved far enough to not be douches to living things.

 

[Thebest]

So you don't mind that a animal that can feel pain, and experience terror and lives that everyday, just so you can have a cheap .99 cent burger at McDonalds? No thought goes through your mind that maybe, just maybe it might be a little wrong, ethically, to treat other living things like garbage just for our consumption?

I really don't mind. I don't see why people care so much about this. Their sole purpose is to be created into food for humans. They don't suffer for very long before they're put out of their misery. Call me a heartless bastard if you will, but as far as I'm concerned, food is food. If it tastes good, I'll eat it. And I might as well eat it, because nothing you, or anyone else says will change the way these companies make their food.

And I've never understood why people eat something, then they're like "oh wow this is good!" but when someone tells them it's something that would normally be 'gross' to the ordinary person, or tell them that it went through a certain process to be made, they're like "eww keep that shit away from me." It's just dumb.

 

[All Else Failed]

The food that you prepare in a civilized fashion...Was ripped apart by a machine someplace.

No moral high ground please.

As long as it is done without them being tortured for an extended period of time, and its quick and painless, I have no problem with it.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

yes, things involving life is a major part of ethical studies.



No, we are not the only animal that kills each other for no reason: Watch other apes.


We have evolved far enough to not be douches to living things.

All evidence to the contrary my freind...

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

As long as it is done without them being tortured for an extended period of time, and its quick and painless, I have no problem with it.

Hell then don't eat KFC....I think it sucks anyways.

 

[Peter Parka]

Technically, the killing of any living thing isn't pretty though...Correct?

Semantics

Yes, you're correct, I just don't see the point of making it even more painful for no other reason than to save a few pence, to me that is ethically wrong.

 

[All Else Failed]

I really don't mind. I don't see why people care so much about this. Their sole purpose is to be created into food for humans. They don't suffer for very long before they're put out of their misery. Call me a heartless bastard if you will, but as far as I'm concerned, food is food. If it tastes good, I'll eat it. And I might as well eat it, because nothing you, or anyone else says will change the way these companies make their food.

And I've never understood why people eat something, then they're like "oh wow this is good!" but when someone tells them it's something that would normally be 'gross' to the ordinary person, or tell them that it went through a certain process to be made, they're like "eww keep that shit away from me." It's just dumb.

If you were eating something, and you though it was delicious, but someone told you half way through you eating it that it was dropped on the floor in a pile of feces, would you still not think it was "gross"?

 

[Thebest]

If it tasted good, I don't care. Just as long as it doesn't have a disease or something.:cool

 

[All Else Failed]

If it tasted good, I don't care. Just as long as it doesn't have a disease or something.:cool

Mhm, right.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Yes, you're correct, I just don't see the point of making it even more painful for no other reason than to save a few pence, to me that is ethically wrong.

Well me neither parka, but my point remains. I hear this theory that we have evolved to the point of being above cruelty, I say bullocks D)

As a society we are cruel bastards, and do horrible things to our own damn species. When it comes down to someone fighting for the right of a fucking chicken, or so folks can get decent medical care, or our Veterans can get VA treatment they deserve, fuck the chickens.

I get irritated at people caring more about someone wearing a mink coat then some kid dying becuase his parents don't have insurance.

Get my drift babe?

 

[Thebest]

Mhm, right.

You don't have to believe me. I don't really care one way or the other.

I just don't see the point in people not eating something they thought was good because of something that happened to it or something that's in it that would supposedly make it 'not' good. *shrugs*

 

[Peter Parka]

Well if you use that argument, we would all ignore every issue except one. I'm more concerned about many other issues but that dosen't mean this one should be ignored.

 

[All Else Failed]

Um, people can care about more than one issue, guys.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Well if you use that argument, we would all ignore every issue except one. I'm more concerned about many other issues but that dosen't mean this one should be ignored.

Don't not ignore it. Don't buy it, it's really simple.

I like the promotion of as many American made products as possible, so I buy American as much as I can.

BUT it does not make those that do not jerks, or un-American.

It's easy, don't eat KFC. I hate it anyways, aside from being mean to the poor chickens, it's one of the owrst things you can do to your heart, nothing but grease. That's what folks should be concerned about, thier heart exploding.