I thought this was interesting

[UncleBacon]

how about pride in country and the willing to stand up and fight for it

 

[NightWarrior]

I can only speak for myself. But there's a lot of military on this site, I'd be interested to see what they have to say about why they enlisted.

College: I took 3 classes in 5 years, so it wasn't that.
Money: I'm just as broke as when I enlisted, so it wasn't that.
No other options: I got accepted to UF and FSU, so it wasn't that.
9/11: Signed up a month before, so it wasn't that.
The way I was raised: Neither of my parents wanted me to enlist, so it wasn't that.

So what was it then?

I enlisted because I wanted to. I did it because it's what I thought (and still think) was right. I didn't want to go the rest of my life relying on others to protect me when I couldn't do it myself.

I joined to get all the girls. Girls love a man in uniform.

 

[dt3]

I joined to get all the girls. Girls love a man in uniform.

True. I forgot to mention all the shiny shit

 

[NightWarrior]

I haven't yet, but I've heard nothing but good things. I'll have to pick up the DVD's some day.

Last week's episode was especially interesting since one of the main characters was having problems dealing with all the killing he was having to do. He went to the base chaplain to search for answers. It was very interesting to hear the chaplains take on murder vs. killing.

Yeah, pick the DVDs up, I think this is the 3rd season now.

 

[NightWarrior]

how about pride in country and the willing to stand up and fight for it

I meant to ask you before Chris, you a "Shellback" or a wog?

 

[UncleBacon]

I meant to ask you before Chris, you a "Shellback" or a wog?

I'm a wog....I never got to cross the line....we were suppose to on my last cruise but we had to turn around to drop some more bombs...we were about 6 hours from the equator so I was pretty disappointed about it...I have a few kids that use to work for me that went west pack and are now golden shellbacks....lil bastards....they crossed at 0/0

 

[NuckingFuts]

See this is the kind of shit that will pull me out of my 2 week break. I have been trying to figure out what it is about you AEF that makes you hate the military so much. Do you have fucked up eyesight? That ended your dreams of flying? Do you have messed up knees? Are you a fat ass who could never make it off of a fat boy program? Or are you one of those boot camp wash outs. Dude I love the fact that you have an opinion on these things. But why dont you show any type of support for the people who are out protecting you.

 

[NightWarrior]

I'm a wog....I never got to cross the line....we were suppose to on my last cruise but we had to turn around to drop some more bombs...we were about 6 hours from the equator so I was pretty disappointed about it...I have a few kids that use to work for me that went west pack and are now golden shellbacks....lil bastards....they crossed at 0/0

I'm shellbacked... When I went on my pump in '93 we got called down to Somalia for a little mission they made a movie out of "Black Hawk Down". While down there, we crossed the equator at some point during the night and then the festivities ensued the next day. All I have to say is :yuk.

 

[UncleBacon]

I'm shellbacked... When I went on my pump in '93 we got called down to Somalia for a little mission they made a movie out of "Black Hawk Down". While down there, we crossed the equator at some point during the night and then the festivities ensued the next day. All I have to say is :yuk.

yeah I wish I would of gotten to experience that...I've heard stories

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I think, you sign, you go. Anyone who thinks the millitary isn't about defending the country at all costs should be invsetigated for mental issues.

Here is how my father (decorated green beret, three tours in vietnam) said to me.

"I don't care if you like to believe it or not, you do not go into the millitary to get a cool suit and drink. When you walk into a recruiters office....You talk with te secretary behind the desk...The one that looks sweet and innocent.....She has been taught how to kill you."

My personal belief is that you signed, you have an obligation to do what's asked of you. There seems to be no caviat for "I don't like this...they shouted at me and it makes me want to poopey"

Awol is a crime...Yes?

 

[NightWarrior]

I think, you sign, you go. Anyone who thinks the millitary isn't about defending the country at all costs should be invsetigated for mental issues.

Here is how my father (decorated green beret, three tours in vietnam) said to me.

"I don't care if you like to believe it or not, you do not go into the millitary to get a cool suit and drink. When you walk into a recruiters office....You talk with te secretary behind the desk...The one that looks sweet and innocent.....She has been taught how to kill you."

My personal belief is that you signed, you have an obligation to do what's asked of you. There seems to be no caviat for "I don't like this...they shouted at me and it makes me want to poopey"

Awol is a crime...Yes?

It is indeed. I didn't get to see a cute secretary. My recruiter was one ugly mo-fo.

 

[dt3]

It is indeed. I didn't get to see a cute secretary. My recruiter was one ugly mo-fo.

:homo: :yuk

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

It is indeed. I didn't get to see a cute secretary. My recruiter was one ugly mo-fo.

LOL, I guess my poitn, or rather his point was even the person behind the typewriter was taught how to kill you efficiently.

I admire beyond imagination the sacrifices men and women in the millitary make every day without asking for much in return. It takes a great passion and appreciation for something to lay down your life for it, it's a responsibility that few are ready to internalize. But it is one I was raised to appreciate.

 

[NightWarrior]

LOL, I guess my poitn, or rather his point was even the person behind the typewriter was taught how to kill you efficiently.

I admire beyond imagination the sacrifices men and women in the millitary make every day without asking for much in return. It takes a great passion and appreciation for something to lay down your life for it, it's a responsibility that few are ready to internalize. But it is one I was raised to appreciate.

Your father raised a good son.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Your father raised a good son.

Heck he is my hero, he and my grandfather, my father can still to this day, barely walk past an american flag without tearing up. He has a great appreciation for our country, and him seeing the body bags coming home just brings all of his experiences come back to life. To suffer the loss of fallen comrades must be something that never leaves you.

I worshipped him growing up, but he always told me he was just a man.

 

[UncleBacon]

Heck he is my hero, he and my grandfather, my father can still to this day, barely walk past an american flag without tearing up. He has a great appreciation for our country, and him seeing the body bags coming home just brings all of his experiences come back to life. To suffer the loss of fallen comrades must be something that never leaves you.

I worshipped him growing up, but he always told me he was just a man.

if you only knew...one of the toughest funerals I attended was when I buried a childhood friend at Arlington...he was an Captain in the army and was hit by a roadside bomb in Iraq with 2 months left over there...I knew him since we were 6

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

if you only knew...one of the toughest funerals I attended was when I buried a childhood friend at Arlington...he was an Captain in the army and was hit by a roadside bomb in Iraq with 2 months left over there...I knew him since we were 6

Wow....I cannot imagine. The fondest and most surreal memory I have of my father, I mean he is still alive, but what really did it for me was the Vietnam Memorial in D.C., "The Wall". We wnt when I was about 11, my father got about three plates into it, and hit his knees and cried like a baby. I have never seen that man cry like that before then, or since then....And he never said a word about it. It was surreal

 

[UncleBacon]

Wow....I cannot imagine. The fondest and most surreal memory I have of my father, I mean he is still alive, but what really did it for me was the Vietnam Memorial in D.C., "The Wall". We wnt when I was about 11, my father got about three plates into it, and hit his knees and cried like a baby. I have never seen that man cry like that before then, or since then....And he never said a word about it. It was surreal

that place is just pure emotion...its tough to be there and not shed a tear

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

that place is just pure emotion...its tough to be there and not shed a tear

It made my father fall apart, and that man is an oak. I think the experience was very therapeutic for him, he never really talked about the war at all to me. He said a few things but not a lot.

Man I sure hope I do not get popped for dragging this thread off topic:unsure:

 

[dt3]

Sorta unrelated, but at Quantico we had replacement panels for the Vietnam Wall at our Radar site. If one ever gets chipped or something, they have extra ones to replace it with. They're even facing the exact same direction and angle to the sun as the real ones to make sure they weather the same.