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alice in chains

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im trying to fix a refrigerator and ive been led to believe several different kinds of mecahnics in electrical circuits. power supply is read as L1 and L2.. also known as 'hot' and 'neutral'. from my new understanding, the hot wire feeds the component (motor, switch, etc.) and the neutral wire carries the current out of the component.

before, i understood that both legs of power feed both sides of the circuit and then the current was dissipated through heat as it fed the component.

which one is true?

AAAAND...can he explain to me how a start and run capacitor are wired together in a compressor circuit?
 

cam elle toe

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Any decent electrician will tell you to hire a qualified tradesman. You dont fuck around with electricity if you dont know what you're doing.

I have 2 exes that were sparkies, and a FIL who was an electrical engineer.
 

alice in chains

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Any decent electrician will tell you to hire a qualified tradesman. You dont fuck around with electricity if you dont know what you're doing.

I have 2 exes that were sparkies, and a FIL who was an electrical engineer.

i know enough about electricity to not get myself killed, just need some pointers on circuits. :D
 

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what is the problem you are having? And if you need to see how the capacitors are wired you may be able to find a schematic online
 

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I'll forward your question to him. Unfortunately, you may not get a response until tomorrow, as it's 1:00 AM here and he's in bed now. Sorry about that...
 

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Have you googled your question? This isn't a dickish question. I had a problem with my dryer once, and went online and googled my question. I found several helpful DIY forums that answered my questions without even having to post. :)
 

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i understand the schematics it's just not knowing what direction the elctron flow feeds which components make the schematic confusing, it's like i understand 80% of it but the other 20% prevents me from accomplishing anything
 

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I can check on wiring of motors tomorrow that I deal with to see how the capacitors are wired. I don't know if that is standard wiring though. I know that one can add extra run capacitors though to quiet the motor down and smooth it out. Never had to do it but I know the option is there if I can find the memo on it.
 

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ahh dont worry about all that trouble dude. you wouldn't believe how much trouble ive had trying to figure this out, it's like i just cannot get a straight answer

i think that a jumper goes from the common terminal from run to the start cap and then a jumper out of the start cap to the start relay...then the start relay and start winding both jumper to the hermetic terminal on the run cap...BUT...like i said its really hard to tell becuz u dont know which way the power is going on the components so it's frustrating as hell :mad:willy_nilly:
 

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It is no big deal

Do you have a schematic?

If so and can post it I can take a look.

Work is slow so no problem trying to help.

Boss is a prick though so if he catches me he might fire me. :eek

But then if he does then I can quit and sue the bastard and retire right away. :ninja
 

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Assuming by this schematic the Line on the left side feeds the component and the other Line is sending current out, it looks as if when the contacts in the relay open 2 and 1 to cut the start winding out of the circuit, the power is still feeding into terminal 5. Maybe I just donnot understand the design, idk. Do you know anything about this diagram, Allen??? it actually looks like the power is coming in on terminal 5 and getting fed through terminal 2 straight to the start winding, so im guessing the start is supposed to stay in the circuit?? just designed to kick out the start cap maybe??

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First off, you're dealing with Alternating current. Both wires are "hot". The current flows one way, then the other. Switches direction 60 times per second, thus, "60 cycle". Your white wire is "neutral" and the black is "hot". The green wire is "ground" which means that if you get a short circuit somewhere, the electricity flows from the shorted component and directs it through the green wire to ground it to the breaker box which is grounded to the............. ground! Literally!

You've got capacitors, which hold a badass charge, will blow your mind if you contact the tabs on 'em. Wiring stuff, like this, up takes more knowledge than I have. The reason for my post is to make you aware of what you're attempting to work with. Good luck!
 

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First off, you're dealing with Alternating current. Both wires are "hot". The current flows one way, then the other. Switches direction 60 times per second, thus, "60 cycle". Your white wire is "neutral" and the black is "hot". The green wire is "ground" which means that if you get a short circuit somewhere, the electricity flows from the shorted component and directs it through the green wire to ground it to the breaker box which is grounded to the............. ground! Literally!

You've got capacitors, which hold a badass charge, will blow your mind if you contact the tabs on 'em. Wiring stuff, like this, up takes more knowledge than I have. The reason for my post is to make you aware of what you're attempting to work with. Good luck!

thanks for your input!! i know about ac current and Hz, let me rephrase...2 legs of power. power that comes from a residential transformer is conducted TO a house...so the current may be alternating, but is travelling a direction to feed a component. what ive read in hvac circuits is that one leg of power goes IN and the other leg goes OUT. and im not sure if this is true or if both legs go IN.

blaarghh sorry i bet all this crap sounds confusing lol idk...

the whole reason im making this is cuz in the circuit diagram it shows on the neutral side of the diagram a run capacitor is hooked into it...but how can that capacitor feed a fan or winding if it is in the return power side of the circuit? the schematic is a few posts back
 
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