Handcuffs of the future

[Stone]

I'm against any increase in power of the state and especially state empowered corporations over it's citizens.

Then how can you support Obama care?

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John.......you really fucked up
He's got you there

 

[The Man]

I agree.

Did you see where the view count on your Chickenhawk thread has gone past 2350.
Speaking of restraints, looks like some are still reading it since you closed it

I expect so stone....those views are coming from you.

 

[The Man]

John.......you really fucked up
He's got you there

Lets me get this for you John.

Fucking teabilly

 

[The Man]

That is a good point. Whoever pays is the one really in charge, and since the gov't empowers the corporations to make the insurance decisions .............

Let me get this one for you to john.

You union leaching fucking conservobot..voting against your families interest ..hoping to make it to the top one percent.

 

[Stone]

I expect so stone....those views are coming from you.

I'll have to admit to reading a lot more than twice........some really funny stuff there, especially the last 4 or 5 pages.......probably read them again tonight, for a good laugh

 

[Stone]

Let me get this one for you to john.

You union leaching fucking conservobot..voting against your families interest ..hoping to make it to the top one percent.

Who pissed you off the most.....John or me?..................

Stone, eat fart and die you gd m'fer

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[The Man]

John...I hold john responsible for the whole fucking mess.
I am sure he isnt a professor...so therefore he may be being dishonest about serving in the marines as well..
Its all posing IMO

 

[The Man]

I'll have to admit to reading a lot more than twice........some really funny stuff there, especially the last 4 or 5 pages.......probably read them again tonight, for a good laugh

I suspect you will bookmark it....and bring it up in say about......4 years from now.

 

[Stone]

John...I hold john responsible for the whole fucking mess.
I am sure he isnt a professor...so therefore he may be being dishonest about serving in the marines as well..
Its all posing IMO

Now...TM....that's not entirely fair about him starting this whole fucking mess.
If you'd been open with him and not started that thread, it would have been no big deal.
You did blow it out of proportion.

We all call each other names.

 

[Stone]

I suspect you will bookmark it....and bring it up in say about......4 years from now.

No....I did copy it all to disk in .xps format and burn it to a CD, though.
That was a keeper

 

[Natasha]

Oh geez. Seriously, how many threads are y'all going to carry this over into??? It's beyond tiresome at this point, IJS

 

[Stone]

Oh geez. Seriously, how many threads are y'all going to carry this over into??? It's beyond tiresome at this point, IJS

Probably depends upon how many threads I start.......:eek......

 

[robdawg1]

Back to the Cuffs, I would have agreed it was a bad idea until recently hearing about officers who have gotten hurt or shot by subjs who were restrained in cuffs. Now i am not sure....

 

[Natasha]

Back to the Cuffs, I would have agreed it was a bad idea until recently hearing about officers who have gotten hurt or shot by subjs who were restrained in cuffs. Now i am not sure....

That's an improper search issue caused by complacency, IMO

 

[The Man]

Back to the Cuffs, I would have agreed it was a bad idea until recently hearing about officers who have gotten hurt or shot by subjs who were restrained in cuffs. Now i am not sure....

Be sure....they are a bad idea.
The new cuffs are not designed so they could not shoot anyone...they are to provide an extreme discomfort or even medicate.
Cops are not doctors.......nor suppose to be punishing {well maybe a little} if one resists.

Go read the three links,they are a bad idea...taxes are already high enough

 

[robdawg1]

That's an improper search issue caused by complacency, IMO

Not on either example i can think of off hand

Be sure....they are a bad idea.
The new cuffs are not designed so they could not shoot anyone...they are to provide an extreme discomfort or even medicate.
Cops are not doctors.......nor suppose to be punishing {well maybe a little} if one resists.

Go read the three links,they are a bad idea...taxes are already high enough

Paying for law enforcement equipment is not always on the burden of tax payers, they often get new equipment based on seizures from drug runners.

 

[The Man]

Paying for law enforcement equipment is not always on the burden of tax payers, they often get new equipment based on seizures from drug runners.

What do handcuffs have to do with drugs...I never did approve of property seizures due to drug charges.
Here they take houses cars etc ...not sure about other states but here they do.
I usually agree with the law but do not understand non related property seizures.

 

[robdawg1]

What do handcuffs have to do with drugs...QUOTE]

i was referring to you comment on taxes being high enough

 

[The Man]

Did you read the part about the shocking based on inclines etc?
You could get shocked just for falling down.....sneezing from a rapid movement.
Bumps in the road while you get hauled in...shocked for flailing while being shocked.
The drugged to calm you down......not good.
Thats just accidental.
Why would someone need them if you are already cuffed?
IMO if you are worried about an unfound weapon....I could support a device which goes over the hands

 

[robdawg1]

Did you read the part about the shocking based on inclines etc?
You could get shocked just for falling down.....sneezing from a rapid movement.
Bumps in the road while you get hauled in...shocked for flailing while being shocked.
The drugged to calm you down......not good.
Thats just accidental.
Why would someone need them if you are already cuffed?
IMO if you are worried about an unfound weapon....I could support a device which goes over the hands

ok, first of all my response to you was based on your assumed tax liability to pay for more expensive hand cuffs....that was it, I wasnt saying to YOU that I supported what they were looking into.

I will respond to your argument however about why you need further restraint when you are handcuffed, because in my experience I have seen officers get hurt by subjects that were already cuffed. I have seen where criminals have manuevered their cuffs from behind them to in front of them and then attacked officers resulting in the officers duty weapon being used to fire on said officer. This was from a prisoner that had showed no inclination to fight when the handcuffs were originally placed, and the suspect was then placed into the veh with no resistance, he didnt decide to fight until the officer transported and got to where they were going.

I have also had officers injured by suspects who continue to resist after being cuffed!

I am not saying i necessarily supported electro or syringe hand cuffs, but you should also understand the need for control of a restrained prisoner!