Guys vote only please.

[BreakfastSurreal]

I dress more high end

you dress nicely. but not high end. hollister and abercrombie aren't considered "high end." no offense though, you do dress nice and clean, but i just wouldn't use high end to describe your brand types.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

How much have you spent or looks like you spent on your vintage clothes that you dress nice in? Being Materialistic doesn't mean that you have to spend a lot of money.



If dressing the way you do makes you feel good about yourself that is 100xs more important than worrying about an asshole you might attract by being dressed nice. And if you're trying to attract a nice guy, a nice guys aren't going to judge you on how you dress or what you do with yourself, it's the assholes that will jump to those conclusions by how you are dress and not the person you are. And going without makeup or doing your hair?? You have to feel comfortable with yourself first and have confidence in the way you look b/4 someone else can see that same confidence in you. And don't worry...there are nice guys out there...I happened to marry one. And make sure the guy knows what he's doing in bed...b/c you're right SEX IS GREAT.

James- Are you saying that if I dress nice that I'll only be attacting assholes? That's the most ridicolus thing I have ever heard. I guess all those women who live in trailer parks and are beat up every night by their asshole boyfriends/husbands must be wearing prada dresses.

Leave it to Alicia to throw things way the hell out of context, I NEVER once said that, but there is a point where there is a SMALL truth to it. It just depends on where you go out looking for guys at.

I'm drunk and I'm hungry so I'm not going to make much of a rebuttal to this other than the fact that in talking with Kathy through the day we established that her self confidence comes only from being dressed up with her make up and hair done. Without it she stated on her own that she doesn't feel as pretty as she is on her own. I call BS on it, although she's never given me the chance to see her without the nicer clothing or make up.

to quote part of our chat:

Me: yeah you can pick and choose who you want to keep dating and who you want to weed out, but my point is that In my opinion, you could do that by going to a bar in jeans and a tshirt with some simple shoes like I wear on as well.
Kathy: But then I would not feel attractive and I think that would show
Me: So that means your confidence comes from the make up and the nice clothes, which it shouldn't come from.
Kathy: Wow! Excellent point James! Hmmm
Kathy: Maybe that is the answer I was looking for. You are quite the smart one!


So no, Clare she didn't own me. She took things out of context and made a quick snap assumption based on what I'm trying to say because she doesn't like me.

No offense, but I wish you girls would stay out of my thread, I asked for guys opinions only. None of you liked it when the guys posted in the "Girls Only" thread about the NY trip several months ago. Now you're invading my thread that is titled on the page the way it is for a reason.

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

well excuse me, i wont post in your thread anymore. I guess we women know nothing about picking up women or men. OH WAIT...I've PICKED UP CHICKS BEFORE...lol this is a stupid ass argument, im leaving this thread the hell alone because i dont want to be involved in any petty bs

 

[TheOriginalJames]

This isn't about picking up women, it's about a mans taste in women. I posted it to prove a point to Kathy, but with women voting in the poll it skews the results of it.

I asked nicely and I'm not trying to offend you, but you'll notice I don't/won't (anymore) post in 'ladies only' threads (like the one you have going on).

 

[Trance97]

you dress nicely. but not high end. hollister and abercrombie aren't considered "high end." no offense though, you do dress nice and clean, but i just wouldn't use high end to describe your brand types.

James didn't give enough choices. I wouldn't concider myself to dress highend but compared to his options he lists I would lean more to the high end side.

 

[SilentEyz]

Well I did NOT vote.. so no worries there.

But I can Definatly understand Where Kathy is coming From..

I always Dress nice and do the makeup and hair if I am going out, even if that means I am the only one in my group that does.

Part of it.. Its like Kathy Said, Some people Just feel better about themselves.. Part of it.. Its the way I was raised, I mean Im a believer that you should always look your best.. hard habit to break..

No I dont spend an hour primping to go to Wally World.. But If I am going out I dress Apporpriatly.

But Even when I am dating someone, he can be the laid back jeans Type.. Im still going to always Look my best, Not only for myself, but for him also.

Maybe its just an old fashioned way of thinking. I dunno.

I get What your saying James.. I get what all you guys are saying.. A women may seem more impressive if she is kicked back and relaxed look. But Like Kathy Said, If I was to go to the club in Jeans and a tee, I would feel unimpressive, and it would show. no matter how good I still looked, because It would be about how I feel about myself.

 

[GuesSAngel]

You said that you only wanted guys to vote. I didn't vote, I only replied. Maybe next time you should make it a little clearer that it's a guy only thread and womens replies aren't welcome. Basically what I'm trying to say is from your last post to me, you're only making an ass of yourself. I didn't make a quick snap assumption. But oh well. See it how you want.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

*sigh*

Ok, fine. I'm sorry. You're correct, I think that if you dress super snazzy & and always try to make yourself look like you're a million buckaroos, you're only going to pick up trailer guys who beat their wives and girlfriends. *pours on 4 buckets of super concentrated sarcasm then rolls his eyes at the gross & incorrect over generalization of my entire point*

The point of this thread is for guys to choose the generalized versions of what women they would choose to talk to at the bar or where ever they go if they were looking for someone to hang out/start a relationship with to make and prove a point to Kathy, since she didn't believe me when I told her this. After seeing the poll, she started to see my point of view. Since you aren't privvied to our conversation on the messenger service we were using, you have no basis to have made that part of that post in the first place.

Last I knew you were female, married, and had a kid on the way, so tell me... exactly how would your answer and/or posting hold any relevance to the topic of the thread? That's right, it wouldn't.

Please do me a favor, just admit you hate me and get it overwith. I don't talk to nor respond to any of your threads, but since you want to cop an attitude with me and I really do not want this thread deleted, I think I'll just put you on ignore until you can at least try to treat my threads (which Kathy was really enjoying reading, and is wanting to sign up and check out the board a little more) with a little more respect.


Now I ask you, with all do respect and 100 pleases, just stop.

Please?

 

[Peter Parka]

Come on , chill out people this is supposed to be a friendly forum and is this really a topic which is so important its worth getting all angry about? *Initiates group hug*

 

[GuesSAngel]

*sigh*


Last I knew you were female, married, and had a kid on the way, so tell me... exactly how would your answer and/or posting hold any relevance to the topic of the thread? That's right, it wouldn't.

Please do me a favor, just admit you hate me and get it overwith. I don't talk to nor respond to any of your threads, but since you want to cop an attitude with me and I really do not want this thread deleted, I think I'll just put you on ignore until you can at least try to treat my threads (which Kathy was really enjoying reading, and is wanting to sign up and check out the board a little more) with a little more respect.

All of those things you said about being female, married and having a baby on the way are my qualifications.

And yeah, you do respond to my threads but that's okay too. I reply to your threads and I do respect them by giving my opinion, it's not my fault that you don't agree with them and read them as hate and then get all pms.

I don't think that anyone could read my post on this topic and see that I did it b/c I "hate" you. You just see and read in black and white.

 

[SilentEyz]

Wow.. umm Ok


well I will just sit back and let all the guys tell us what kind of women thy like.. and those of us who DONT fit thier standards well.. We just wont speak up and defend ourselves or explain ourselves... LORD Knows we wouldnt want to be understood. So much better to continue with mispercetions then understand Why.

Yeah, you want to know what Guys prefer.. thats cool..So guys prefer jeans and Tee's .. I wont try and have someone understand why I prefer to look nice.. Ill just go back to my now I know why my life is so Is so Fucked up Corner.. and leave you boys to tell me why Im wrong.. *shakes Head*

 

[TheOriginalJames]

There really is no need for defense though. This is just a simple opinion poll aimed at a guys personal preference, nothing more, nothing less.

No guy is going to think less of a woman who likes to look nice when she goes out, no guy is going to think less of a woman who goes out how she's comfortable. It's just a preferences poll to prove one point to Kathy.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

All of those things you said about being female, married and having a baby on the way are my qualifications.

And yeah, you do respond to my threads but that's okay too. I reply to your threads and I do respect them by giving my opinion, it's not my fault that you don't agree with them and read them as hate and then get all pms.

I don't think that anyone could read my post on this topic and see that I did it b/c I "hate" you. You just see and read in black and white.

So being married to a MAN, having a baby on the way and being female are qualifications to know what your preference on women and how they dress are? I'm not making the connection here, in fact that makes very little sense.

I don't recall responding to your threads, but if I have I have never taken your opinion and your point of view and twisted it with some perverted generalization that makes you sound like an asshole as you have just done to me.

Yes, I read things in black and white. I take things at face value, I mean if you don't want me to take things at face value, don't make assumptions and say what you really mean instead of trying to make a point by making vague statements.

 

[Johnny]

What is The Problem here?

 

[TheOriginalJames]

No problem really. Just trying to explain things further.

 

[Johnny]

Okay.

 

[random guy 517]

laid back dresser...

 

[random guy 517]

shit...now i feel terrible cause Silent feels bad...


*looks off into space, wide eyed and wanders off somewhere to sulk*

 

[SilentSinz]

Wow.. umm Ok


well I will just sit back and let all the guys tell us what kind of women thy like.. and those of us who DONT fit thier standards well.. We just wont speak up and defend ourselves or explain ourselves... LORD Knows we wouldnt want to be understood. So much better to continue with mispercetions then understand Why.

Yeah, you want to know what Guys prefer.. thats cool..So guys prefer jeans and Tee's .. I wont try and have someone understand why I prefer to look nice.. Ill just go back to my now I know why my life is so Is so Fucked up Corner.. and leave you boys to tell me why Im wrong.. *shakes Head*

*gives Mama Silent a hug* to tell you the truth tees and jeans girls are just more approachalbe for me....i would always feel dress up. classy look nice girls were always out of my leauge and scared me off!!

 

[TheOriginalJames]

This is Kathy! Wow! I just got in and read some of what was being said. This has kinda taken a wrong turn. I mean, I could go on and on about this subject, but I will say this was just a very basic question. James & I were at work discussing why I can't find a decent man. I told him it must be how I dress. That I attract all the bad ones. Well, that started the entire conversation off as he was trying to convince me I should dress down more. I am not a high class, top dollar, high maintanance, unapproachable girl, don't take 3 hours to get ready or anything...maybe an hour !!! I don't get all gutsy to go to Walmart, but I'm not going to Walmart to pick up a guy! It was more like I was saying I dress to provacative when I "Go out" and I am looking for Mr. Right. That men see me and only want one thing, so is this causing the problem? Would dressing down help me attract a better guy? It was not about the amount of money we spend on clothes or where we shop. Just a general question, I said, in my opinion, guys will notice a girl that dresses nice or sexy before they notice a girl wearing a sweatshirt & jeans. Simple as that. James stated that is not true and that I should try it. Then he decided to take a poll to get some opinions. I have found this way of meeting people very interesting. I couldn't wait to get in to work today and see what you all had to say. It's addicting!!! Quite rapidly addicting. However, I'm not exactly sure where it went bad, but I want you all to know, I appreciate all your opinions. That's how I took them all. The things that I stated were my opinions as well. James was just helping me try & figure something out. He's feelin' like the bad guy here. I hope we can just take all these comments as just different opinions and nothing more. I didn't want to start a frenzy of anger or anything. Just some advice or opinions! The "Thread" as you call it I guess, was for guys to answer, to make the poll turn out right, but really any opinions are welcome. I think James was just trying to prove a point to me with the poll, which he did. Guys appear to like the laid back look, which is helpful to me. Can't say I will be able to go out in a sweatshirt, but I may only take 15 minutes to get ready next time. Just for kicks!!! I think what I have gotten out of all this is it doesn't really matter, whatever you are comfortable with wearing or however you dress, feel good to yourself! That's what works. Being yourself. Me...being dressed well works for me. It makes me feel good about me. It is my job to weed out the bad guys. My job to pick the right guy for me. This is just a difficult thing to do for ME, because...sorry to say, most guys are really good at first impressions. They make you feel like they want to get to know you, but then something changes. For ME anyway. Just be myself, dress in what I feel comfortable in and just get better at picking out the men part! That's it!

Thanks to all for your comments, James, thanks dude for doing the poll for me. Thanks for proving me wrong. :mad You're awesome.