i have to be honest here,throwing hundreds of millions in they're direction towards the flood relief effort sits more than a little uncomfortable with me.....send the aid yes,but not money.......given pakistans track record of corruption and links to the taliban its a foolish act to send money.
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Charity is only ever a temporary band-aid over a long term problem. Given how much aid has been sent to Africa over the past 20 years, and what little effect it's had (a negative impact is actually being noted thanks to free clothes shutting down local businesses...) I really don't think aid is ever the answer.
However, when it comes to something like this, a natural disaster, I would say if you've got it, send it. And then just hope it lands in the hands of the needy.
Minor Axis
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I see the dilemma, but I question the wisdom of giving a two faced country aid. They partially act like they are helping us, while having ties with the enemy. I think it has been pretty well documented, we don't have their honest support for eliminating the Taliban. But due to our relationship with them, we are able to do stuff on the border that we might not be able to if they were outright hostile towards us.
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TGLucario475
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To be honest, why should I give a country some of my hard earned cash just because they got a flood? I hit depression and had a panic attack a few weeks ago and I didn't get anything out of it money-wise. I've injured myself many times but no money came from it, so why should I help them when their own goverment isn't helping them? All they need is clothes and food, not money!
CordialDreams
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Because you can't judge an entire country on their government. The people in Pakistan are human beings believe it or not. And it isn't just a little flood.
Because you can't judge an entire country on their government. The people in Pakistan are human beings believe it or not. And it isn't just a little flood.
CordialDreams
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All governments in all countries do things that are not right. That doesn't mean other people shouldn't help out.
Minor Axis
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The other part of the dilemma is how much of that aid money gets to people in need versus going into someone's pocket? From a strictly philosophically humanitarian aspect, aid should be given.
TGLucario475
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Plus the fact that you've got British-born Pakistani's saying "Help our country by donating" but the funny thing is that they was born in the British Isles, so technically speaking Great Britain is their country and not Pakistan. Another thing is that we're giving them money when I don't think countries like Russia, Spain, France, South Africa etc etc are giving anything, it's ALWAYS Britain that gives, we're giving them OUR hard-earned money which should be used on ourselves to help ourselves when we've hit a problem but we give the money to them because we feel bad that they've had a flood. We've had many summer-floods but we've not received any money from them because of it!
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Personally I couldn't give a shit about them. It's their Country, I live in mine. Call me a racist. If I'm racist for not giving a fuck about another country miles away that I don't give a fuck about, then so be it.
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And also, if there was ever a natural disaster in the UK, I'd sure what people to help us. I don't care what the country is, people need help. The govenment might be shit, but I don't see that as a reason to condem people to suffer.
freakofnature
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I don't think the OP is against sending them aid, he's against sending it in the form of money. I think I'd have to agree. Send them food and clothing and such necessary items but I'd be wary of sending money simply because there's a good chance it wouldn't be used for flood relief.
:homo:ette. There's just too much of a chance of money going to the wrong hands...I believe in donating everything except cold hard cash!
It's money that fuels relief efforts, not aid packages. It's no good to anyone having aid packages sitting in an air hanger with out the money to coordinate a large scale distribution and future production of medicine etc.
Meirionnydd
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Which, surprisingly enough, costs money.
Also, aid shouldn't just come in the form of 'food and clothes', aid money is used for a myriad of things in the recovery effort such as repairing infrastructure, public works, and providing temporary accommodation to those in need.
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TGLucario475
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Clothes don't cost money if you donate them. The first thing they need is clothes, not buildings.
Drop in's are not a good way to provide relief. They are used as a last resort. For obvious reasons.
You need money to coorindate relief efforts. It's not some vast conspiracy to keep a corrupt government in power (not that Pakistan is relatively corrupt, it's not Somalia... Pakistan is a country with a 55% literacy rate and has been a democracy from it's conception) there's no way round this.
Clothes and tents and bags of rice are no use to anyone without the money to distribute and coordinate them. And that means boats, trucks, local knowledge etc.
Secondly, the money is used to ensure future production of medicine and food. All farms and food storage have been destroyed, most likely for a year or more. Farms and infrastructure have to be rebuilt, and all your well wishes, old sports shirts and cheap tarpaulins can't fix that.
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