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Peter Parka

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Do you really think banning gambling will eliminate it?
Oh and if you think we should ban anything which can be used to harm others, why are you posting on a forum when there have been cases of people being driven to suicide on chat rooms and forums because of cyber bullying?
 
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Do you really think banning gambling will eliminate it?
Oh and if you think we should ban anything which can be used to harm others, why are you posting on a forum when there have been cases of people being driven to suicide on chat rooms and forums because of cyber bullying?

Now you're just being irrational. I'm just posting on this forum, I'm not cyber bullying. Besides, suicide from cyber bullying happens because the person himself has issues from the begining. Also, I didn't say that we should ban anything that can cause crimes, only the stuff that influences a lot of people like alcohol and gambling.
 

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There are parents that borrow and steal to provide food for their children, does that mean that having children should be illegal?
 

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Dude, why do you think they're called accidents? It's because they aren't planned. When gamblers steal or do bad things, they have a plan and are fully aware of what they're doing.

There all called accidents where it was intentional or not. And even if it wasn't intentional, it still doesn't mean it wasn't a retarded dim-wit driving 100mph in a 40mph zone that caused the accident.

percentage of gamblers who steal compared to gamblers that don't is very small..

percentage of gamblers who steal compared to everyone else who steals is very small.

There is no logic behind banning gambling.
 

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And thinking about it.. With your logic Temperamental, we should also ban wall street investing.. Plenty of wouldbe millions are borrowing money in order to invest on stock that supposed to be a sure thing. But then it tanks. And plenty of people sell stock by bullshitting about how it's such a sure thing. Which is fraud. So wallstreet drives people to commit crimes.

It's just a glorified form of gambling.
 

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Originally Posted by Pudding Time
And thinking about it.. With your logic Temperamental, we should also ban wall street investing.. Plenty of wouldbe millions are borrowing money in order to invest on stock that supposed to be a sure thing. But then it tanks. And plenty of people sell stock by bullshitting about how it's such a sure thing. Which is fraud. So wallstreet drives people to commit crimes.

It's just a glorified form of gambling.



Exactly. It's FRAUD. Gambling is different, gamblers know the probability and how it works. I'm not saying that borrowing money is bad...it's only bad to borrow money IF you're going to gamble or buy drugs with it.

And Peter, ahh I give up, you win...the government shouldn't prohibit gambling....people just need to learn self control....:surrender
 

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Exactly. It's FRAUD. Gambling is different, gamblers know the probability and how it works. I'm not saying that borrowing money is bad...it's only bad to borrow money IF you're going to gamble or buy drugs with it.

Yes Fraud. Which is a form of stealing by way of deception.

If gamblers knew the probabilities of winning with gambling, they'ed be rich.
 

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Can't even and not meant to gamble in pubs for coppers even, let alone anything else here.

We do have a few Casinos already - I don't agree with Casinos, drawing in much, much more for the government than the people who are sucked into it.

The lottery isn't as bad and I don't buy tickets if I don't have the money on specific weeks. I control how much and when I do it, I'm not addicted to it.

Not everyone is able to accept they can't afford it though and will beg, steal etc to go and gamble b/c they are addicted. It is well publicised that gambling is an addiction. All those programmes here, about those who have got addicted to gambling, but cannot afford it, they are endless and there are so many very bad and sad tales to be told of what the families lose b/c of it too.

My objection is to the government, knowing full well it will and does as has been proven, create plenty, way too many addicts. This is b/c of their own greed, to agree to have casinos etc, b/c it suits them.

Then, when people are addicted, there isn't much help, or not enough 'funds' to help people, they are often told.

See, that's what being an adult is all about, you make mature decisions and if you don't and hurt others by it you get punished for it. Treating everyone like a fucking idiot is no way to run a government. It's completely unfair to punish a responsible gambler because there are some people who are out of control with their gambling.

It is adults and thousands of them though, who do get addicted. Proof that there are too many who are incapable of making informed decisions, in an 'adult' manor.

Re the emboldened^^^ the governemnt are treating people who gamble, like idiots though, that is just it - not by deciding if they should gamble or not, but b/c they reckon they are making it look an up and coming venture for the country - 'the country' is them, not us living in it.

People then moan about the money the government have all the time for their living expenses etc, yet are contradicting themselves by paying right into their hands through gambling and the more addicted people get, the more the government benefit from the lucrative profits - the more spent, the better the profits gained and that is what I am against. :(



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Right on to this!

I'm sick of the so-called "do gooders" who think they can save us from ourselves. Or stop us from doing something that is illegal. What the people want in the form of pleasure, they will get laws or no laws.

Plus, we already know what happened in the states during Prohibition of alcohol. The ban didn't last long -- the government was missing out of those nice juicy taxes.

It's not about do-gooders at all, it is that some people have insight into the consequences is all and through the greed of those making from it. It's just opinions, not do-gooders. ;)

Well then, thats the borrowing and stealing which is wrong, not the gambling.

Yes, but this wouldn't happen if it wasn't put there to tempt people (addicts) in the first place, if the casinos weren't accepted. ;)

There are parents that borrow and steal to provide food for their children, does that mean that having children should be illegal?

That is more a case of having to feed children though - although I don't in any way condone stealing, but children should not go without food at all anyway, whereas people don't have to gamble (mostly becoming addicted in the process), they have a choice - very, very different scenario there. ;)
 

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I think gambling should be legal everywhere. It's your money. :dunno

I think it's ridiculous that the government will run a lottery with a 1:24,000,000 chance of winning, but won't let me play poker.

Tru dat. That's really ironic.
 

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My objection is to the government, knowing full well it will and does as has been proven, create plenty, way too many addicts. This is b/c of their own greed, to agree to have casinos etc, b/c it suits them.

Well in that case, you wouldn't have any objection if the government banned you from drinking then.;)
 

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Well in that case, you wouldn't have any objection if the government banned you from drinking then.;)

I'm not saying they have to ban anyone from anything, just that if through their own greed, they didn't inject Casinos in towns, cities, in the first place...then there wouldn't be the problem to turn away addicts needing that help and support, all b/c they haven't provided enough of it for when the thousands do get addicted. They have considered their own pockets first (as with alcohol and cigarettes), without even bothering or being concerned enough to make these arrangements, knowing these are all addictive ;)

I don't drink much at all and that wouldn't bother me if this was an alcohol free country, but that's irrelevant as it is never going to happen, but they put the causes there, so they should make the resources available for those they have helped get addicted by putting it there in the first place.

I know this will never happen as said, but it's just a view and not me trying to push anything, just my take on it.

The facilities have been put there, so it's those who are addictive gamblers/drinkers etc who I feel sorry for. ;)
 
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