Gambling

[Godsloveapples]

Most of you might not completely agree with me, but I think that gambling should be made illegal in all countries. It is true that some people can gamble occasionally without it affecting their lives seriously, but most people can’t control themselves.
The risk involved in gambling is outside the control of players, therefore the result of the outcome is a matter of chance. The probability of a head or tale when a coin is tossed is 1/2; where as the probability of picking 7 numbered balls out of 50 33232 billion 930 million 569 thousand and 600! (1/33232930569600). Since both these examples are based on chance, the odds probability on the outcome, whether high or low, is irrelevant. As you can see, casino games make money because they pay the winners at less than true odds. So when you gamble, you’re gambling for money people have lost. Gambling is a waste of both time and money. Compulsive gamblers would, by all means, do anything (even steal) just to get enough money so they can gamble again. Gambling is very much like drugs, once you get hooked on it, you can’t stop unless you get professional help. When you gamble, you tell yourself "let me gamble just one more time, maybe I'll win"...then if you’ve won or lost, greed will drive you to gamble again. "Even though I (won/lost) I'll gamble just one more time, maybe I'll win (again).” If you finally give up, you will try to gain back the money you’ve gambled away. People with gambling problems are very likely to deny that they have any problems even when it's obvious to people around them. "It's not a problem at all. I can quit any time I want." "It's no big deal, I can cover my debts." "I just gamble for fun, it doesn't affect me, it's not like I would rob my family or steal just to gamble." This is a significant public health problem that can even lead to suicide. Besides, I'd rather make money from the sweat of my brow instead of money from people who have lost.

 

[Peter Parka]

Yes I do disagree because I disagree with nanny states, I don't see it as the governments job to decide what is and isn't good for me.

 

[Godsloveapples]

Yes I do disagree because I disagree with nanny states, I don't see it as the governments job to decide what is and isn't good for me.

The government isn't deciding on whether it's good or bad for you, it's preventing you from harming others. Remember I said that "Compulsive gamblers would, by all means, do anything (even steal) just to get enough money so they can gamble again." Gambling, like drugs, can lead you to hurt people.

 

[Peter Parka]

The government isn't deciding on whether it's good or bad for you, it's preventing you from harming others. Remember I said that "Compulsive gamblers would, by all means, do anything (even steal) just to get enough money so they can gamble again." Gambling, like drugs, can lead you to hurt people.

So punish people who do hurt others not something which might not. You must think there should be an outright ban on cars as well then by that logic seeing that any driving could potentially hurt someone.

 

[Darkstar]

So punish people who do hurt others not something which might not. You must think there should be an outright ban on cars as well then by that logic seeing that any driving could potentially hurt someone.

Good point. Almost anything that we do has the potential to hurt someone else.

 

[Godsloveapples]

So punish people who do hurt others not something which might not. You must think there should be an outright ban on cars as well then by that logic seeing that any driving could potentially hurt someone.

Sweetie, those are incidents...you know, accidents (something that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause). The harm that one does from gambling isn't an accident. Also, I didn't say that the government should punish gamblers, I just said that gambling should be prohibited.

 

[Peter Parka]

Sweetie, those are incidents...you know, accidents (something that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause). The harm that one does from gambling isn't an accident. Also, I didn't say that the government should punish gamblers, I just said that gambling should be prohibited.

So how do you see that you are not punishing gamblers by not letting them gamble?:unsure:

I play the lottery once a week and occasionally have a night down the dogs, care to show me how this is hurting anyone? Making gambling illegal only pushes it into the hands of gangsters anyway which is far more dangerous!

 

[Godsloveapples]

So how do you see that you are not punishing gamblers by not letting them gamble?:unsure:

I play the lottery once a week and occasionally have a night down the dogs, care to show me how this is hurting anyone? Making gambling illegal only pushes it into the hands of gangsters anyway which is far more dangerous!

Well yeah, that's why gambling is legal, exactly why alcohol is legal too -so it wont be pushed into the hands of gangsters. You might not be hurting anyone, but the addicts are. If gamblers *points finger at Peter(jk) * are wise enough, they would accept it being illegal because it leads people to abuse others. I don't think that all gambling should be prohibited though. As you said, it will be like punishing gamblers, so I think that only gambling in the casinos should be illegal.

 

[Peter Parka]

See, that's what being an adult is all about, you make mature decisions and if you don't and hurt others by it you get punished for it. Treating everyone like a fucking idiot is no way to run a government. It's completely unfair to punish a responsible gambler because there are some people who are out of control with their gambling.

 

[Godsloveapples]

See, that's what being an adult is all about, you make mature decisions and if you don't and hurt others by it you get punished for it. Treating everyone like a fucking idiot is no way to run a government. It's completely unfair to punish a responsible gambler because there are some people who are out of control with their gambling.

"See, that's what being an adult is all about, you make mature decisions and if you don't and hurt others by it you get punished for it." ???
You get punished for making mature decisions?

Most people are idiots when it comes down to gambling, that's why gambling in casinos should be illegal...I don't think that any mature person would gamble in casinos?:unsure:

 

[Pudding Time]

See, that's what being an adult is all about, you make mature decisions and if you don't and hurt others by it you get punished for it. Treating everyone like a fucking idiot is no way to run a government. It's completely unfair to punish a responsible gambler because there are some people who are out of control with their gambling.

Exactly.. do they ban cars because some people are retarded drivers and kill other people in accidents? No, so why ban everyone from gambling because some people are retarded gamblers who end up broke?

Government hypocrisy is an endless list.

 

[Godsloveapples]

Exactly.. do they ban cars because some people are retarded drivers and kill other people in accidents? No, so why ban everyone from gambling because some people are retarded gamblers who end up broke?

Government hypocrisy is an endless list.

Dude, why do you think they're called accidents? It's because they aren't planned. When gamblers steal or do bad things, they have a plan and are fully aware of what they're doing.

 

[Peter Parka]

"See, that's what being an adult is all about, you make mature decisions and if you don't and hurt others by it you get punished for it." ???
You get punished for making mature decisions?

No, I quite clearly stated you get punished if you don't and hurt others.:unsure:

Most people are idiots when it comes down to gambling, that's why gambling in casinos should be illegal...I don't think that any mature person would gamble in casinos?:unsure:

Have you evidence whatsoever to back this sweeping statement up with?:wtf:

 

[Peter Parka]

Dude, why do you think they're called accidents? It's because they aren't planned. When gamblers steal or do bad things, they have a plan and are fully aware of what they're doing.

So punish them for stealing then, not for gambling.:unsure:

 

[Godsloveapples]

No, I quite clearly stated you get punished if you don't and hurt others.:unsure:




Have you evidence whatsoever to back this sweeping statement up with?:wtf:

Ooo sry, I didn't read the "and"...

Well, ya. Do you have a better name for the thousands of people who spend hours in the casino gambling away?

 

[boombala]

Yes I do disagree because I disagree with nanny states, I don't see it as the governments job to decide what is and isn't good for me.

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Right on to this!

I'm sick of the so-called "do gooders" who think they can save us from ourselves. Or stop us from doing something that is illegal. What the people want in the form of pleasure, they will get laws or no laws.

Plus, we already know what happened in the states during Prohibition of alcohol. The ban didn't last long -- the government was missing out of those nice juicy taxes.

 

[Godsloveapples]

So punish them for stealing then, not for gambling.:unsure:

The government is punishing the people who are committing crimes. I'm just saything that they should stop the source that drives them to commit those crimes.

 

[Peter Parka]

Just about anything can be a reason why people claim to commit crimes. If you made everything which people claimed caused them to commit a crime illegal, no one would do anything for fun anymore.

 

[Dana]

It brings in money for the state and emplyment.

 

[Godsloveapples]

Just about anything can be a reason why people claim to commit crimes. If you made everything which people claimed caused them to commit a crime illegal, no one would do anything for fun anymore.

You're right, anything can be a reason...but why not eliminate the sources that are causing most crimes: alcohol and gambling? It doesn't matter anyways because they wont do it. Like what Boombala stated, the United States did ban alcohol consumption but crime rates went up so high that they had to end the prohibtion. I'm just giving my opinion on gambling.