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TM.....it was your own posts here and at TSG that outed you on the torture issue.
Denying you made those posts is silly.
You support legalized torture and I've proven it with linkage to posts you've made elsewhere.
You have even engaged in illegal torture and Tim proved it with linkage to posts you made here at OTZ.
Do you really think people forget something that serious?
Besides the numerous mentions in this section of the forum, I have found several more other places Brett
referring to the poll on the thread. Number one was, I believe in God and support legalized torture
and that was just the tip of the iceberg.
You absolutely support torture if it gets them to talk, your own words betray you Brett.
Trying to do a little cherry picking hey tim.
From that same thread
Shows there was no vote
Shows member was considering waterboarding torture at the time....plain as day
Shows member does not want to legalize torture...plain as day
Again member said he can not vote in the poll...this not showing support of legalized torture
I could go on but whats the point...you will still deny the truth
You see something that isnt there...its that simple
You felt sorry for the terrorists I didnt
And again...you should stop posting like a moron..there is no such thing as legalized torture
And one more time for the record...which I posted in one of these threads
If waterboarding was legal at the time it needs to be illegal now...of which you responded to
You have two choices..either accept it...or continue to look like a moron.
Stop trolling me while being dishonest in an attempt to assassinate my character
You can either take that as friendly advice or a warning.......Life is all about choice.
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
how many threads you guys gonna toss the legalized torture turd into?
Personally i wish it would have ended day one.
I agree... I didn't think it was OK to carry on subjects from one OP into another thread..
Faced with your OWN words and you can't handle the truth. :24:
I wouldn't expect anything less from your lying ass.
And your negative rep says it's a personal invasion... How so? Do you have ANY clue what it means to post on a public forum? What you post in public is considered PUBLIC, not personal.
Go to Google and type in: "aka Brett" torture. It's ALL right there for the world to see. How is that personal?????
Jesus Christ you are so one dimensional and predictable.
It stated contextual abuse as an effort for a personal invasion.
You have not established who I am on any forums...you are only going by what stone says.
Thus I have not made anything public....simple enough?
I guess I could go to a forum and picks some posts and say they are yours with your logic.
How about this...I go to curious topic as say hey....."FROM THE GUY THAT SAYS ONE GUY CAN GO AROUND SUCKING DICK VOLUNTARILY AND NOT BE GAY" ...not my style...i dont "cross post" at forums.
I am sure you can see the ethics behinds such...especially since you were at one time an admin here.
Now one more time.
I have stated here many times
If water boarding was legal it now needs to be illegal....it was my very first post on the matter.
You follow?
As far as the red rep....I simply repaid you from several months ago,..while you were red repping me.
now was a good time to collect.
Take the hint...I do not support torture
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
I don't mind it when it is only for a post or two but these guys have been going on and on.
Not my thread so it does not bother me but you would think they would want to stop with the pissing contest.
Agreed, that why I said "carry on" the subject..
Your posts at TSG do show you supporting waterboarding and that was legal at the time and waterboarding is torture......thus legalized torture and you approved of it's use.
There is no 'if'......waterboarding was considered a legal torture during the Bush administration and claiming at this late date it needs to be illegal is disingenuous.....it is now illegal and your late conversion a typical accommodation to convenience.
And Tim's intervention with linkage to your present stance on committing illegal torture further proof that you hadn't had any change of heart concerning the concept of torture.
Non sequitur.....I have no choices in the matter, the issue is your responsibility.
You support torture.
Stop denying the truth.
You are confused, I never supported legalized torture.
And there is nothing at TSG that supports that claim......on the other hand, you posted reams of support for waterboard torture.
The links have been posted for anyone to investigate on their own.
You supported legalized torture then and have recently engaged in illegal torture.
I have no need nor reason to back down on this issue, akaBrett/TM/Brett888.....
Hard to tell, AA.
Just have to wait and see how many times akaBrett/TM makes it relevant.
All you had to do was take responsibility for owning the position.
But, no, not akaBret/TM......you had to start a chickenhawk thread where torture was sure to come up.....and here you are, still denying your support of torture.
You obviously do and Tim posted your conversations at OTZ where you actually did torture someone and had so little regard for his life you stated the depraved intent to kill him.
And as far as the page full of red reps you've given me, I don't give a shit, I'm not here for points.
I'm here to debate......and that includes calling you out on obvious lies.
Are you a fucking moron?
It was not "legal" torture...it was not defined as torture at the time....thus you sound like a fucking idiot
It being legal torture is your fucking opinion and nothing more.
We dont have to define what was torture within your opinion.,,,but rather by definition which is what is what was determined by law
The law says it was not torture as said time....you can call it legal torture all you wish...it does not change the FACT that it was not legal torture.
Torture is not legal....do you understand
The laws determined what was legal at the time....not you stone.
Stop being so fucking ignorant.
I mean fuck....you just as well use the term illegal slaves...when slavery was legal
Or call fucking whiskey from the store down the street moonshine...as one time it was illegal.
You do not define what is legal and illegal to fit your argument....its just your opinion.
If you think it should have been illegal...then thats your opinion and nothing more.
Your opinions are not facts...they are just your opinions...the law does not operate from "Jacks opinions"
You claimed you would torture if it met your own justifications.....but get this..you already are claiming torturing was legal...while you claimed this issue is not what you would do illegally...So was it legal or illegal{torture} you have to take one or the other and stop picking whatever fits your argument at the time.
So...big fucking deal....I chose not to prosecute those that boarded those three as what they were doing at the time was legal...are you a fucking moron?....How the fuck could I choose to prosecute someone for something that was legal at the time !!!!!
Are you a fucking idiot...Should we prosecute those that "juiced" people on death row where the death penalty applied but in states where it has been removed...STOP ACTING LIKE A FUCKING MORON.
And one last time..I have stated it here..I have stated it several times
You responded to the post here in this forum..which was the first exchange on waterboarding
I stated "if water boarding was illegal then it needs to be illegal now."
In other words {if case you are to ignorant to figure it out} I would support prosecuting those that boarded now
Stop being a fucking moron and trashing every thread with your dishonest bullshit.,,,you are doing the same shit here you here that got you banned there...thing is I have to report it here...there I didnt as they would spank your ass anyway for trashing threads with known lies....and reporting my posts then they would find out you were being dishonest and spank your arse.
I am not your problem...you created all problems you had there by yourself ....move on get over it.
You are acting like an 8th grade punk..it shows...you are essentially ruining the debate section here.
If that is what you want go ahead...expect no further replies from me on this matter...you want to fuck this forum up I dont want my name attached to it.
As anyone can see....even here you are rationalizing torture as an accepted activity because the Bush administration needed torture as a tool for interrogation.
It was still torture no matter the claimed legality of it.
You advanced this same argument at TSG in support of using torture....the government defined it as not being torture.
But that was only a legal definition and written arbitrarily for the use of it with out legal repercussions.
You endorsed legalized torture.
And you are again rationalizing it's use.
It was what it was.......torture that the Bush administration legalized and you supported.
Legalized torture.
Actually, waterboarding was decreed legal by the Bush administration, not by rewriting laws or legislative action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
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And you supported that legalized torture.
Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
As shown, the Bush administration did enact legalized torture and here you are arguing that activity was legal. Legalized torture and you argued in support for it at TSG and you even rationalize it today.
You are a monster.
Say please.............
.....You are simply an inhuman monster. :cool
Really?
Are you now supporting legalized slavery using the waterboard argument?
You are an inhuman monster, bubba.
Why?
It isn't.
And now it's been legalized
You are thick.
Bush took an activity that was illegal and legalized it...you've already agreed to that...thus legalizing torture.
akaBrett/TM.......you aren't wired right
Waterboarding was illegal until
Bush legalized it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
Nor are your opinions even close to reality......but I'm not presenting my opinion, I'm presenting 'fact'.
The Bush administration legalized a particular form of torture.
That is fact.
Yes.....imminent danger.
No....just as I argued at TSG, given an extreme scenario of imminent danger, I would break laws to ensure the safety of friends, family and even innocents fully aware that I would have to bear the responsibility of facing legal prosecution and plead my case to a jury.
You were there when I made those arguments.
You are lying to the forum.....again.
non sequitur, even in the land of akaBrett/TM logic.
Torture should always be illegal to prevent the abuse of power and not corrupt the morality and ethics of a society.
I also argued that POV at TSG and you were there at the time.
Again, akaBrett/TM lies to the forum.
The 'big fucking deal' is that you just admitted to supporting legalized torture.
There is no 'if'.
Waterboarding is no longer allowed.......but that doesn't change the FACT that you did support legalized torture and still rationalize it's use when you accuse othere of being unpatriotic for denouncing it's use ( yep......you posted to that effect many times in the chickenhawk thread you begged the OTZ administration to close)
Slick, you are a poser. And you've been outed.
Stop making the issue relevant.
There you go again
I've got the PMs to TSG administartion proving I left and then was banned.....probably something I said in those PMs.......
No one is stopping you.
You'll look even more chicken that before, though
....Come on, now....akaBrett/TM......you're just angry because you were kicked out of TSG where as I left and then was banned.
It was funny-stupid how you got the ax.....I read the mod warning before that mess was censored out
I'm not complaining.
Irrelevant....the discussion is about your support of legalized torture.
And that support is posted at TSG and I've given links to only a minor fraction of it.
You were very busy in supporting legalized torture......you did exemplify the neo-con mentality at that site.
You sound unhappy
Promises, promises.......you made that promise before.
We'll see.
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