Europe-wide ban on Monsanto GM corn imminent

[Kakapo Dundee]

Watch who you're calling a loser kiwi...

In order to identify yourself as one of the 'losers' that I refer to,you'd have to admit that you swallow every piece of ridiculous propaganda written about GM food. The article you posted at the top of this thread IS A DEAD SET LIE.

THERE IS NO IMMINENT BAN.

Given that the authors were exposed the very next day as liars, only a fool would offer them any credibility. I'd consider anyone who takes these idiots seriously to be a loser. Threatening me will not change that, although I can't see exactly what you have that you can threaten me with. The worst you could possibly do is attempt to silence my opinion - which would be sufficient to prove to me that you've got no FACTS to form a creditable rebuttal with.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

You dont know how the stuff works obviously
It is sprayed by the farmers .....the corn lives...the rest dies
The corn has been genetically modified to live through being sprayed with the chemical.

You're clearly in need of more information.



Here you go.Roundup being applied over corn PLANTS. Note the size of the size of the plants. Complete absence of any corn cobs,the whole purpose of spraying crops is to remove competitor weeds early in the plant's growth cycle. Given that there's a witholding period of just 7 days after spraying of Roundup, it's unlikely in the extreme that there would be measurable amounts of toxin in the plants at time of harvest.

Again I ask the question. why would you feed weedkiller tainted corn to rats continuously for three months?

The answer is fairly obvious. You WANT the rats to develop cancer. You don't want an accurate and realistic scientific result, you want a result that can be claimed as supporting your prejudice.

The food industry is tightly controlled by regulating authorities. The hippies answer to nobody except themselves. When they spread bullshit and lies that are this easy to tip over, I know who I'd rather trust.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

You're clearly in need of more information.



Here you go.Roundup being applied over corn PLANTS. Note the size of the size of the plants. Complete absence of any corn cobs,the whole purpose of spraying crops is to remove competitor weeds early in the plant's growth cycle. Given that there's a witholding period of just 7 days after spraying of Roundup, it's unlikely in the extreme that there would be measurable amounts of toxin in the plants at time of harvest.

Again I ask the question. why would you feed weedkiller tainted corn to rats continuously for three months?

The answer is fairly obvious. You WANT the rats to develop cancer. You don't want an accurate and realistic scientific result, you want a result that can be claimed as supporting your prejudice.

The food industry is tightly controlled by regulating authorities. The hippies answer to nobody except themselves. When they spread bullshit and lies that are this easy to tip over, I know who I'd rather trust.

The real question is why would you feed that garbage to humans...

Seriously...

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Ever noticed how expensive stone-age[sorry,"organic"] produce is?

It's because the yields are rubbish, and the loss and wastage is phenomenal. There are billions of people on this planet who deserve good healthy food and the Luddites have no clue as to how to produce it. Horse manure is a great fertiliser, but when townies who have never grown so much as a sack of potatoes start spreading it around their own neighborhoods, it tends to stink the place up.

I have no problem with anyone paying over the odds for organic produce based on their own reliance on hearsay and junk science. Why they persist with their lies about mass produced food is a mystery. If you don't trust it, don't eat it. All the more for the rest of us.

There is no imminent European ban on GM corn. This thread is a nonsense.

 

[The Man]

You're clearly in need of more information.



Here you go.Roundup being applied over corn PLANTS. Note the size of the size of the plants. Complete absence of any corn cobs,the whole purpose of spraying crops is to remove competitor weeds early in the plant's growth cycle. Given that there's a witholding period of just 7 days after spraying of Roundup, it's unlikely in the extreme that there would be measurable amounts of toxin in the plants at time of harvest.

Again I ask the question. why would you feed weedkiller tainted corn to rats continuously for three months?

The answer is fairly obvious. You WANT the rats to develop cancer. You don't want an accurate and realistic scientific result, you want a result that can be claimed as supporting your prejudice.

The food industry is tightly controlled by regulating authorities. The hippies answer to nobody except themselves. When they spread bullshit and lies that are this easy to tip over, I know who I'd rather trust.

You appear to be backpedaling ,due to your statement below

It seems rather desperate to me.Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

What desperation?..the claim.

Now you show roundup being applied after making the statement above.
And make it appear as if it is only applied once at that.
It is treated often multiple times..then there is over spray to contend with where some rows are treated twice the same day...then over application itself due to the rate of flow being wrong...Also while turning the inside rows will be over applied.
Also intentional heavy application often happens as well as a fortune of corn is out in the fields and many play it safe rather than sorry.
Then end result is that many of the plants are heavily over treated...that I can guarantee you

You clearly have little knowledge of the subject as you asked why it would be treated to start with.

Hippies or no hippies this is how tests are often done..by over dosage and look for cancer.
Additionally we arent rats..so these tests may not be accurate anyway...perhaps you could volunteer as a human subject with high a dosage?

Can it cause cancer it humans...fuck if I know..Fuck if you know.
One thing for sure it isnt good for you.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

i've played this game with you enough times to know how easily you lose the plot. Your posts are long on claims but lack any factual substance.

It's patently obvious that you have no idea when it comes to farming, but that it's not going to discourage you from making false statements.I'm not going to waste any further time explaining the economics of contracting to you.


The fact remains, that the theories advanced by this group were dismissed some time ago by the European Food Safety Authority as being based on flawed science. Despite this, the hippies publish articles claiming that an EU-wide ban is imminent.

GM crops have been in since 1996 with no observable evidence that they cause cancer in humans.

The article that Dana has quoted is a flat lie. On that basis, any other claims from its author have no credibility.

Feel free to disagree, but unless the European Union reverses its decision in the next seven days, I'd rather not bother with it any further.

 

[Jackass master]

Funny that nobody mentions how mother nature is adapting and rendering Roundup's ability to kill weeds weaker every year. It is being applied at greater rates than were ever intended with lesser results every growing season. Current estimates are that within 10 years it will be virtually worthless to control many weeds.

 

[The Man]

i've played this game with you enough times to know how easily you lose the plot. Your posts are long on claims but lack any factual substance.

It's patently obvious that you have no idea when it comes to farming, but that it's not going to discourage you from making false statements.I'm not going to waste any further time explaining the economics of contracting to you.


The fact remains, that the theories advanced by this group were dismissed some time ago by the European Food Safety Authority as being based on flawed science. Despite this, the hippies publish articles claiming that an EU-wide ban is imminent.

GM crops have been in since 1996 with no observable evidence that they cause cancer in humans.

The article that Dana has quoted is a flat lie. On that basis, any other claims from its author have no credibility.

Feel free to disagree, but unless the European Union reverses its decision in the next seven days, I'd rather not bother with it any further.

It's patently obvious that you have no idea when it comes to farming,

Seriously?

You had to ask the stupid question below

It seems rather desperate to me.Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

Your posts are long on claims but lack any factual substance.

You already did it for me :24:
Complete with a picture

It's patently obvious that you have no idea when it comes to farming,

Not only do you have your nose in American politics and know little about it
you know very little about farming as well as shown by your statement below

Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

The fact remains, that the theories advanced by this group were dismissed some time ago by the European Food Safety Authority as being based on flawed science.

According to your prior statement below any theories would be flawed

Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

The article that Dana has quoted is a flat lie.

Are you now claiming they didn't do the tests?

Oh wait perhaps you are still holding the position below.

Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

Feel free to disagree,

but unless the European Union reverses its decision in the next seven days, I'd rather not bother with it any further

Right its obviously flawed because ????

Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

Perhaps you should stick to topics you have knowledge of.

I suspect you will be putting me on ignore for the remainder of the day

:willy_nilly:

 

[The Man]

Funny that nobody mentions how mother nature is adapting and rendering Roundup's ability to kill weeds weaker every year. It is being applied at greater rates than were ever intended with lesser results every growing season. Current estimates are that within 10 years it will be virtually worthless to control many weeds.

Exactly.
The genetics of the weeds are changing due to exposure.

I would like to go a step further with that though
Should we be applying chemicals which are responsible for changing the genetics of several varieties of weeds and grasses.
Pretty serious stuff

 

[The Man]

Bout time for a new weed killer IMO

 

[Francis]

The real question is why would you feed that garbage to humans...

Seriously...

I gave that answer below..

Corn is heavily used for Biofuel ( ethanol ) and back a few years ago there was a panic there would not be enough to feed the people of the planet..

Hence we depend on it heavily for our food products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2...d_price_crisis

It was either find a way to make more corn to feed the planet and Biofuel or starve.

 

[The Man]

I gave that answer below..

Corn is heavily used for Biofuel ( ethanol ) and back a few years ago there was a panic there would not be enough to feed the people of the planet..

Hence we depend on it heavily for our food products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2...d_price_crisis

It was either find a way to make more corn to feed the planet and Biofuel or starve.

The stuff existed way before the 2007 to 2008 era....the two are not related.

 

[Francis]

The stuff existed way before the 2007 to 2008 era....the two are not related.

No kidding.. In 1994 was the first sale of GMO foods..

The point is more what shortages in certain foods ( corn ) did to really grow to the level of growth in the industry that was in an infancy level.

Funny how I remember eating Broccoflower and nobody was complaining about it back when it was a novelty. What about Seedless Grapes that when I was a child were so few and far apart.

Do I think GMO food are healthier or better for you, No by far not.. Do I think Organic Farms are better for you, not really as so many have been found to have lied it's scary.. Twice the price for food that are not organic just because the farmer says they are, NOT.. Unless I have my own farm, I will never trust anything because money corrupts..

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Perhaps you should stick to topics you have knowledge of.

I suspect you will be putting me on ignore for the remainder of the day

:willy_nilly:

Nope. I don't want to miss the part where you bring something useful to the argument.


Position remains the same. There is no imminent ban on GM corn in Europe,because the hippies that are pushing for it tried to use bogus research to create a demand for a ban. the thread is a lie.

 

[The Man]

No kidding.. In 1994 was the first sale of GMO foods..

The point is more what shortages in certain foods ( corn ) did to really grow to the level of growth in the industry that was in an infancy level.

Funny how I remember eating Broccoflower and nobody was complaining about it back when it was a novelty. What about Seedless Grapes that when I was a child were so few and far apart.

Do I think GMO food are healthier or better for you, No by far not.. Do I think Organic Farms are better for you, not really as so many have been found to have lied it's scary.. Twice the price for food that are not organic just because the farmer says they are, NOT.. Unless I have my own farm, I will never trust anything because money corrupts..

Its wasnt created as a solution to shortages...but rather a huge convenience to farmers ..thus could yield a larger crop.
It took off like a rocket.....to further if you wanted to compete as a farmer you also had to have this edge...thus why it is very common.

 

[The Man]

Nope. I don't want to miss the part where you bring something useful to the argument.


Position remains the same. There is no imminent ban on GM corn in Europe,because the hippies that are pushing for it tried to use bogus research to create a demand for a ban. the thread is a lie.

You disqualified yourself several posts ago with

It seems rather desperate to me.Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

Your position was the testing was "bogus" as

It seems rather desperate to me.Why would you treat corn with weedkiller?

 

[Francis]

Its wasnt created as a solution to shortages...but rather a huge convenience to farmers ..thus could yield a larger crop.
It took off like a rocket.....to further if you wanted to compete as a farmer you also had to have this edge...thus why it is very common.

You're just arguing for the sake of it, aren't you.. Because you failed to read what I posted by what you said..

What ever dude..

 

[The Man]

Position remains the same. There is no imminent ban on GM corn in Europe,because the hippies that are pushing for it tried to use bogus research to create a demand for a ban. the thread is a lie.

How ?
By using corn that has been sprayed?
That is how you test to see if there are any problems to the health / by the ingestion of such

 

[The Man]

You're just arguing for the sake of it, aren't you.. Because you failed to read what I posted by what you said..

What ever dude..

Not at all...it wasnt created due to any shortages..it was created as a convenience.
Bio fuel has nothing to do with it.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Your position was the testing was "bogus" as

You obviously haven't read half of the thread then. About par for your habit of jumping into threads and going off half-assed on details.

Lets go back to post three for those too lazy to read.

The thread title is a bit misleading.

I just Googled "Ethan A Huff", the author of this article. Looks like he's a flat-earther.

I also Googled "France Monsato Corn"

First article confirms that the European Food Safety Authority http://www.efsa.europa.eu/ have rejected the study in question as unscientific.


http://rt.com/news/corn-study-gm-french-711/

Nobody's banning GM corn any time soon.

European Food Safety Authority rejects bogus testing.That's a fact. Anything else is just debate, intended to question and explore. If you can show me any evidence, rather than just continually bitching, I'd be interested to learn.

You're just arguing for the sake of it, aren't you.. Because you failed to read what I posted by what you said..

What ever dude..

Same pattern as usual. The Man likes to get anal about trivial points when he can't argue the main issue.