Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards?

[All Else Failed]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

Churches shouldn't have to marry gays if they do not want to.

 

[Greatest I am]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

Churches shouldn't have to marry gays if they do not want to.

The issue is more their right to fire some of their employees that come out or are discovered to be Gay or even heterosexuals who do not tow the dogmatic line.

Regards
DL

 

[All Else Failed]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

No, they should be able to fire people because they're gay if that is their policy. It is up to them, although, I know of gays that are out of the closet that work in churches.

 

[FreightTrain]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)"

:thumbup:thumbup Love that quote! Inaction is not always an option. You can only exclude yourself for so long. The Church's views do matter as does any other large corporation or entity with large sums of money. People can be bought. It's called politics.

 

[Greatest I am]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

No, they should be able to fire people because they're gay if that is their policy. It is up to them, although, I know of gays that are out of the closet that work in churches.

As a corporation, if churches can discriminate in that way with there employees, then why not other corporate citizens like G M ?

What gives churches rights that no one else has as per civil law? Why should they be above the law of the land?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

:thumbup:thumbup Love that quote! Inaction is not always an option. You can only exclude yourself for so long. The Church's views do matter as does any other large corporation or entity with large sums of money. People can be bought. It's called politics.

Absolutely and I am pleased your recognize the significance of that quote.

For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.

Thanks for not doing nothing.

Regards
DL

 

[All Else Failed]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

As a corporation, if churches can discriminate in that way with there employees, then why not other corporate citizens like G M ?

What gives churches rights that no one else has as per civil law? Why should they be above the law of the land?

Regards
DL

Churches are not corporations. Where are you getting this from?

 

[Greatest I am]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

Churches are not corporations. Where are you getting this from?

Call them what you will, they still do not deserve their own set of laws or the right to ignore the law of the land.

Regards
DL

 

[All Else Failed]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

Well it is pretty silly to call churches "corporations" since they are in fact not incorporated at all.


And they are private organizations. They can choose who they serve.

 

[FreightTrain]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

I don't think churches are much different than corporations. They both need to make a profit to stick around. Often, they become so concerned with the profit margin, the people are forgotten. Yet, without the 'little people' neither corporations nor churches would still stand.

 

[Greatest I am]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

Well it is pretty silly to call churches "corporations" since they are in fact not incorporated at all.


And they are private organizations. They can choose who they serve.

The issue is not who they serve but who they allow to work for them and why they deserve to be above the law you and I have to suffer. You may have downgraded yourself but I have not.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards

I don't think churches are much different than corporations. They both need to make a profit to stick around. Often, they become so concerned with the profit margin, the people are forgotten. Yet, without the 'little people' neither corporations nor churches would still stand.

If they fill out a tax form then to my way of thinking, they are a citizen. Call them a corporate citizen or a bigoted, sexist intolerant citizen, I do not care. They are still not better than you or i and do not deserve to break the laws that we must follow.

Regards
DL