Does pro-abortion have a real defense?

[alice in chains]

Pro-abortioners have all kinds of irrate arguments of why it should be allowed. My intent is to show that there is no rational reason for abortion to be legal.


It's not a baby; it's a fetus. Define the moment and circumstance when it is transfered from fetus to child. A fetus has a heart, so it is a living being.

The world is overpopulating. It is? It appears to be overpopulating because life necessities are distributed to large cities and it breaks down from there; lack of distribution is the cause.

I was raped. Shit happens. You're willing to take another life, but not your own? Interesting. adoption is always an option because that life will live much longer than the dreaded 9 months of pregnancy.

I'm pro choice. Yes you are. So live with the choice you made. If you abort you're backing out of your choices.



Peoples' personal opinions on pro-abortion shouldn't be respected or tolerated because they are attempting to murder an individual who cannot stand up for itself. It's plain science.

 

[HK]

And what about instances where the health of the mother is at serious risk due to complications, to the point where continuing the pregnancy would mean her potential death?

 

[Joe the meek]

Generally speaking, I'm guessing more people than you think are stupid. People have choices to make, but when it involves another life, I'm still amazed.

I had always been pro choice, as I feel that it is a woman choice to make what to do with her fetus, not no one else's.

However, my view had changed somewhat years ago when I was driving with a guy and he pointed out an abortion clinic that I had no clue existed (didn't look like a medical building in any shape or form, plus no "advertisement").

Long story short, he told me he had taken his girlfriend there THREE times for abortions. WTF??????? He told me it was pretty easy and cheap.

Hey, get raped, have ONE un planned pregnancy and I can see a woman having the right to make a choice. However, when you use a "low cost" abortion clinic as birth control, I can see where it's time for the woman to get a procedure where she could NEVER give birth again.

Sad fact is, stupid people are allowed to live and some can't realize that screwing without using birth control can lead to getting pregnant.

 

[porterjack]

Generally speaking, I'm guessing more people than you think are stupid. People have choices to make, but when it involves another life, I'm still amazed.

I had always been pro choice, as I feel that it is a woman choice to make what to do with her fetus, not no one else's.

However, my view had changed somewhat years ago when I was driving with a guy and he pointed out an abortion clinic that I had no clue existed (didn't look like a medical building in any shape or form, plus no "advertisement").

Long story short, he told me he had taken his girlfriend there THREE times for abortions. WTF??????? He told me it was pretty easy and cheap.

Hey, get raped, have ONE un planned pregnancy and I can see a woman having the right to make a choice. However, when you use a "low cost" abortion clinic as birth control, I can see where it's time for the woman to get a procedure where she could NEVER give birth again.

Sad fact is, stupid people are allowed to live and some can't realize that screwing without using birth control can lead to getting pregnant.

If only stupidity and ignorance could be legislsted against

 

[Tuffdisc]

Pro-abortioners have all kinds of irrate arguments of why it should be allowed. My intent is to show that there is no rational reason for abortion to be legal.


It's not a baby; it's a fetus. Define the moment and circumstance when it is transfered from fetus to child. A fetus has a heart, so it is a living being.

The world is overpopulating. It is? It appears to be overpopulating because life necessities are distributed to large cities and it breaks down from there; lack of distribution is the cause.

I was raped. Shit happens. You're willing to take another life, but not your own? Interesting. adoption is always an option because that life will live much longer than the dreaded 9 months of pregnancy.

I'm pro choice. Yes you are. So live with the choice you made. If you abort you're backing out of your choices.



Peoples' personal opinions on pro-abortion shouldn't be respected or tolerated because they are attempting to murder an individual who cannot stand up for itself. It's plain science.

I cannot agree with this more, it seems silly to abort a life that cannot defend itself. We talk about protecting the innocence child, surely the baby inside is innocent, regardless if it is a foetus. Most of the abortions is due to the lifestyle of the person. Yes, there are females who are raped, I couldn't agree more with the term "sh*t happens".

 

[Tuffdisc]

And what about instances where the health of the mother is at serious risk due to complications, to the point where continuing the pregnancy would mean her potential death?

Well there should be a real medical reason to abort, not a lifestyle choice

 

[porterjack]

Is simple
Women have rights over what they do to their bodies
Foetuses have no rights . It is law upheld by the highest courts

 

[Tuffdisc]

Is simple
Women have rights over what they do to their bodies
Foetuses have no rights . It is law upheld by the highest courts

Foetuses is a life

 

[porterjack]

Foetuses are a life

Not in the eyes of law not until certain number of weeks

God does not decide the courts do

 

[Tuffdisc]

Not in the eyes of law not until certain number of weeks

God does not decide the courts do

What has this got to do with God? The foetus has a heart beat, therefore a life

 

[Joe the meek]

If only stupidity and ignorance could be legislsted against

Perhaps stupid people themselves aren't legislated against, but due to their stupid behavior laws are enacted.

The question I wonder is if the ratio of stupid people in the world has ever changed? I'm leaning towards the answer being no, that due to technology, we now know there are many more stupid people in the world than ever before.

Think about it. Prior to the year 1900, how often did you find out about people doing stupid things? News traveled a lot slower back then. Now a days, people even seem to take pride in the stupid shit they do to the point where they post it on u-tube.

Perhaps it's sad thinking, but if "trailer trash" produces more "trailer trash", is culling the heard such a bad thing? I honestly don't know, but I honestly believe that there are some people that should not be allowed the right to reproduce. That opens up another can of worms though. Sad fact is you can't protect people against themselves.

 

[porterjack]

What has this got to do with God? The foetus has a heart beat, therefore a life

the reference to God is simple

moral stance means nothing, this is a clearly defined legal issue, the foetus has no rights, in the eyes of the law

it is the court that decides not any other religion based group

 

[Pumpkin]

Pro-abortioners have all kinds of irrate arguments of why it should be allowed. My intent is to show that there is no rational reason for abortion to be legal.


It's not a baby; it's a fetus. Define the moment and circumstance when it is transfered from fetus to child. A fetus has a heart, so it is a living being.

The world is overpopulating. It is? It appears to be overpopulating because life necessities are distributed to large cities and it breaks down from there; lack of distribution is the cause.

I was raped. Shit happens. You're willing to take another life, but not your own? Interesting. adoption is always an option because that life will live much longer than the dreaded 9 months of pregnancy.

I'm pro choice. Yes you are. So live with the choice you made. If you abort you're backing out of your choices.



Peoples' personal opinions on pro-abortion shouldn't be respected or tolerated because they are attempting to murder an individual who cannot stand up for itself. It's plain science.

There are very few things that get me as riled up as this topic. I thought your whole post was pretty ignorant but the bolded part is damn offensive. What you are saying is, that if as a woman I am raped and get pregnant from this I should either kill myself or keep the baby?

At the end of the day it is my body, if I have an unplanned pregnancy then I should have the CHOICE of whether I keep it or not. My decision does not change your life in anyway so don't try and push your values onto me.

 

[Joe the meek]

if I have an unplanned pregnancy then I should have the CHOICE of whether I keep it or not. My decision does not change your life in anyway so don't try and push your values onto me.

I'd respectfully argue that after numerous unplanned pregnancies where you chose to abort the life inside your body, you're too stupid to realize the difference between unplanned and ignorance.

 

[Tuffdisc]

the reference to God is simple

moral stance means nothing, this is a clearly defined legal issue, the foetus has no rights, in the eyes of the law

it is the court that decides not any other religion based group

Then the law is wrong, life is life no matter whether the foetus has rights or not

 

[Pumpkin]

I'd respectfully argue that after numerous unplanned pregnancies where you chose to abort the life inside your body, you're too stupid to realize the difference between unplanned and ignorance.

I'm not talking about those stupid women who use abortion as a form of birth control. That I find disgusting.

I am talking as a woman (who thankfully has never been in the position of having to make that decision), who wants to have the right to make the best decision for ME (if I DO find myself in that situation).

 

[Panacea]

I don't know anyone who is pro-abortion.

 

[alice in chains]

There are very few things that get me as riled up as this topic. I thought your whole post was pretty ignorant but the bolded part is damn offensive. What you are saying is, that if as a woman I am raped and get pregnant from this I should either kill myself or keep the baby?

At the end of the day it is my body, if I have an unplanned pregnancy then I should have the CHOICE of whether I keep it or not. My decision does not change your life in anyway so don't try and push your values onto me.

You cannot have the best of both worlds. You tell me why you have the right to kill a life just because you were raped. One instance is the cause of another, but they are now a seperate entity! Sorry, it's true. That child doesn't care about you being raped. It depends on you, so grow up, give birth, and adopt.

 

[alice in chains]

And what about instances where the health of the mother is at serious risk due to complications, to the point where continuing the pregnancy would mean her potential death?

This situation is a definte issue and the mother is not in the position to make that kind of medical decision. The doctor deserves ultimate consent of the decision.

 

[KLD1019]

I don't know anyone who is pro-abortion.

i think it needs to be said that there is a difference between PRO CHOICE and PRO ABORTION. the two are not the same