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Honestly, I don't see this happening . I don't think people can do it. They are to wrapped up in their personal opinions and feelings to be able to handle debating something they don't believe in.

Debating is not for everyone .. it's actually quite hard and very draining. I would be up for it because I've done it before and did quite well at it. I can argue anything if I want to .. but I just don't see many of the debators that debate here being able to put their personal diferences aside and do it correctly or tactfully.

Sorry
 
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Honestly, I don't see this happening . I don't think people can do it. They are to wrapped up in their personal opinions and feelings to be able to handle debating something they don't believe in.

Debating is not for everyone .. it's actually quite hard and very draining. I would be up for it because I've done it before and did quite well at it. I can argue anything if I want to .. but I just don't see many of the debators that debate here being able to put their personal diferences aside and do it correctly or tactfully.

Sorry

I agree, I just hope that these people can admit to this.:)
 

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I like the global warming psychosis going on in the world today, but I still built my case blowing it out of the water.

It can be done. You just have to realize it's a game at that point, and not a pulpit.
 

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Specifically I'm referring to the pop-culture belief that mankind is directly causing global warming and it would kill us all. I had a guy tell me today that we were 10 years from an unrecoverable tipping point. :p
well thats stupid thinking. We didn't cause it, we're just making it worse.
 

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You just have to realize it's a game at that point, and not a pulpit.

Exactly .. debating is supposed to be fun, invigorating, and mind opening (just because you dont' agree with someone's view .. seeing their perspective/input or a new approach is usually intriguing) .. not what it turns into here most of the time .. with people calling each other names and being smartasses and making snide remarks.

Challenging someone's input is one thing .. but just being rude is another.

I think we have some of the later that goes on more often than not.
 

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I like the global warming psychosis going on in the world today, but I still built my case blowing it out of the water.

It can be done. You just have to realize it's a game at that point, and not a pulpit.
I used to believe that we were warming the globe but after some research I found out it is complete and utter bunk. Turns out there isn't even a scientific consensus about it like they keep telling us.
 

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Why has this gone off topic now?

This is the thread for discussing how to organize our teams for debate, not global warming.

Right, there are few things I do not agree with on how the team debate should get started...

I don't think anyone should be limited to a certain amount of posts and the timing for when people post, should be more flexible too, given that some people are in bed when otthers are still at early evening.

Then, this is what I posted before re the teams, but it wasn't acknowledged...

I think whoever's the one arranging the teams, should be left to decide who goes with which team - then I reckon, if anyone's not happy about being in that team, they don't have to join in, I would imagine. :)

Reading over some of the posts since I left last night, I am beginning to agree with jen - I can't see this working. Look how this has gone on this far and nothing has even been resolved.

It started out with a good idea from Deb/CB.

Now, it's been run into tension already with people saying they won't be in a team with so and so and then another trying to decide the whole thing and not having an open mind on it at all, getting highly tense already, then disagreeing on the time limit, how many posts per person per team etc etc.

I feel like this has become a bit of a mess now and should have been concluded long ago - the amount of pages so far and still nothing come together once and for all - all just over getting teams together.

There are already tensions plus now, as mentioned above, it has gone onto a completely different topic, ignoring the reason for this thread.

I don't know - maybe this should be thought through by the the person who will be overseeing this only, as I mentioned^^^^^^

This has gone on far too long.

Plus, I do not think religion or the war should be topics either - there have been so many threads re these topics as it is, which have gone round in more than enough circles already.

Why not make it about something in the current news?
 

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another trying to decide the whole thing and not having an open mind on it at all, getting highly tense already, then disagreeing on the time limit, how many posts per person per team etc etc.

The BS is getting tiring Ria. I wasn't trying to decide the whole thing. I simply gave my input on my ideas of how it could be run. They were completely open for discussion, for any to agree with or disagree with.
 

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The BS is getting tiring Ria. I wasn't trying to decide the whole thing. I simply gave my input on my ideas of how it could be run. They were completely open for discussion, for any to agree with or disagree with.

Ok, please refrain from speaking to me like that, it is offensive. I do not speak BS as you suggest, I never mentioned names, I was giving an overall, view in general, which took into account all different things. More than one person has stated how they think it could maybe be done, me included, so do not speak to me like that, I was just doing as you said above - agreeing/disagreeing with differing opinions, for open discussion. I was referring to anyone getting stressed, cos that is how I see this has now become - a bit tense, that is all.

I posted my rational view, imo, as to how it may be a good idea to have the person planning on getting the teams for debate started, to decide how it will run - please read my last post before this one, it explains there. I didn't get personal with you, I would have to ask you to do the same.

You will also read in my last post before this one, that I now wonder if this can be a good idea now.
 

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Yeah, ok.:rolleyes:

This would be fine if people just discussed the idea without dogging the whole concept like you and SRC. If you have no faith in it, fine, stay out. Go post else where. Those of us who are really interested in this, and want to see it happen can stay and sort out the details.
 

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Yeah, ok.:rolleyes:

This would be fine if people just discussed the idea without dogging the whole concept like you and SRC. If you have no faith in it, fine, stay out. Go post else where. Those of us who are really interested in this, and want to see it happen can stay and sort out the details.

I am not arguing this with you pudding time - I am not going to be spoken to that way either.

We are entitled to our view and I do not know what you mean by 'dogging', we don't use that term over here.

Would you just please put an end to this now?
 

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I am not arguing this with you pudding time - I am not going to be spoken to that way either.

We are entitled to our view and I do not know what you mean by 'dogging', we don't use that term over here.

Would you just please put an end to this now?


oh god.... lol

Well I disagree with you. I think this can work. As long as people aren't forced into teams they don't wont to be in. As a few have already made clear, it would be absolutely no fun for them. The people who can debate on either team wont be effected no matter what team they are on. So to keep everyone happy, let people chose their own team.
 
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