Did You Serve ?

[Stone]

.....You just don't know when to stop do you..

After 36 pages.....obviously not....

 

[Stone]

Surely you aren't conceding so early on, TM?
Shouldn't you be good for at least another couple months of this shit? :eek

Aren't you the 'Bring it on' Guy?


You still have your 'militarism' to discuss.

Don't be shy

 

[Stone]

Nothing to comment on, TM?

Well let's go back to your claims that I'm a hypocrite about using torture.
Since this has become a thread of discovery and I am a participant, would you like to show how I'm a hypocrite in this thread anyone can find using Google.

http://forums.techguy.org/civilized-debate/821529-torture-poll-information.html

 

[The Man]

Nothing to comment on, TM?

Well let's go back to your claims that I'm a hypocrite about using torture.
Since this has become a thread of discovery and I am a participant, would you like to show how I'm a hypocrite in this thread anyone can find using Google.

http://forums.techguy.org/civilized-debate/821529-torture-poll-information.html

 

[Tim]

You do realize that your condoning torture is about as unamerican as it gets... right?

 

[The Man]

You are a pathetic stone.
Now they will see your obsession about boarding at the other place
Multiple polls about boarding....loaded polls denial ....bad move on your part
Documents ,actual lawyers stating the fact...all of which you refuse to accept
And here we are today with the same shit.
But as I said earlier in this thread you will toss yourself under the bus with your own posts.
Well you did..it just took you longer than expected

Hey guys be sure to look at all threads regarding water boarding there are many....look at n the longest one.
The one he linked to is the one he likes the best as it show less of his pathetic behaviour,
The guy is obsessed with the fucking subject and still is years later.

If water board is mentioned anywhere at a forum...he will appear as he is always doing site searches for water boarding.

I have been here 2 years the very first time I mention water boarding {2 years later} Stone is there soon after with his obsession over boarding...As he always is doing searches for water boarding.

Lets put this in perspective/
I am not condoning water boarding but am putting into perspective to what we are dealing with regarding the boarding.
There were several hundred detainees Information became available about a major attack on LA of magnitude equivalent to 9/11...the boardings foiled that attack

The three were asked questions they refused to talk
They were put on the board
For a 15 second run.....2 of the 3 guys broke in less that 15 seconds and talked.
The third guy made it through ...and talked after an addition run later I believe.


Stone gets wind of this ....blows it way up...and has been obsessed with it years later...We did not board for pleasure as the image has been cast.
Its wasnt even news when he got wind of it....fucking old news.

Stones problem and obsession with me comes down to one thing.....I will not call that event that took place torture.
Neither here..nor there{other place}...thus where the obsession comes in at....as we can see there is a strong obsession with boarding....and my refusing to call it legalized torture.

For the forum :
To add further stone was trying to get me banned and wrecked my relationship with staff through pm messages....attacking my character will bullshit just as he has here much like a little girl....cant beat em on board...then feed the staff lies to gain favoritism.


Much like a little girl I say.

He also had a group ...as group leader he could edit and delete posts with the their software.....If a post proved him to be in a lie or disputed his opinion...he would delete the post.

As a result changes had to be made due to the abuse.....due to his censorship.
You will also see many threads of him whining about censorship by staff....AFTER the changes were made due to his abuse.

 

[Tim]

Lets put this in perspective/
I am not condoning water boarding but am putting into perspective to what we are dealing with regarding the boarding.
There were several hundred detainees Information became available about a major attack on LA of magnitude equivalent to 9/11...the boardings foiled that attack

The three were asked questions they refused to talk
They were put on the board
For a 15 second run.....2 of the 3 guys broke in less that 15 seconds and talked.
The third guy made it through ...and talked after an addition run later I believe.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!

This lie has been proven to be false many times over by those who were in the know.
The water boarding did not produce ANY actionable information.

There was no plot foiled that saved LA
We did not get Bin Laden because of water boarding
And we didn't save any lives because we water boarded
Hell, it cost American lives

.....I will not call that event that took place torture.

and this is what makes you wrong. No matter how you want to parse words, water boarding IS torture.
It was classified torture before Bush and it's classified torture after Bush.
You can hand me an apple and call it an orange. It's still an apple



TM you really are deluded...

 

[The Man]

You are just as fucking dense as he is...you still dont get it.
It doesnt matter whether I think it is torture or not...I have already stated it needed to be illegal..use your fucking head....If i state it needs to be illegal then I dont approve

Its about me not willing to throw the guys under the bus who did the boarding as they were doing what they were told to do...to gain information.

If you do not understand this then take your troll ass out of my thread

 

[The Man]

There was no plot foiled that saved LA
We did not get Bin Laden because of water boarding
And we didn't save any lives because we water boarded
Hell, it cost American lives


..

Of course we didnt get bin laden due to boardings....we shot him several years later.
No one ever claimed we got him because of boardings.
Again...do not add shit that isnt there...you are a dishonest poster...get the fuck out of my thread troll

 

[Tim]

Oh my god you are thick.

You can live in any dream world you want.

I don't care if it was deemed legal or not, that isn't the point. You can say it's blue for all I care, it's still torture.

Do you think water boarding is torture TM? I'm not asking if it is or was legal, I want to know if you think it's torture.

And I'm fully aware that you CANNOT answer the question. I'm only asking to show the rest of the board how much of a chickenshit you are and how you WON'T answer a simple question when it exposes your ignorance.

 

[Stone]

TM......are you the author of this statement:

I would have to see a video of it in progress.
if we are boarding a guy till near death..well that just wrong
if there is no rest in between boarding then its wrong.
We have boarded thousands of our own....we never heard anything about it....if so brutal,why was it never talked about?
Now all of a sudden we have a couple liberals who were boarded,come forth and say how terrible it was. get a little air wave time............the big gripe has always been carrying your gear....now all of a sudden..boarding
not saying boarding is easy by any means,but they do have a choice to talk at any time...and our own people.. well.talking would get you more board because you gave in....just a thought to ponder
unlike the terrorist who benefits from talking..its really is a choice they make

Now lets consider your statements here of torturing a home intruder with the caveat you were going to kill him the next time.


Not only is your position bullshit, the one posted here is obviously false bravado.
And that is very close in concept to a chickenhawk

 

[Stone]

TM, I'm ready to post linkage to that quote if you deny it.

 

[Stone]

.................

I don't care if it was deemed legal or not, that isn't the point. You can say it's blue for all I care, it's still torture.
...........................

Indeed.
This seems lost on many......the government does not legislate the vocabulary and meanings of words used by a population.....

 

[The Man]

Again
You are a pathetic stone.
Now they will see your obsession about boarding at the other place
Multiple polls about boarding....loaded polls denial ....bad move on your part
Documents ,actual lawyers stating the fact...all of which you refuse to accept
And here we are today with the same shit.
But as I said earlier in this thread you will toss yourself under the bus with your own posts.
Well you did..it just took you longer than expected

Hey guys be sure to look at all threads regarding water boarding there are many....look at n the longest one.
The one he linked to is the one he likes the best as it show less of his pathetic behaviour,
The guy is obsessed with the fucking subject and still is years later.

If water board is mentioned anywhere at a forum...he will appear as he is always doing site searches for water boarding.

I have been here 2 years the very first time I mention water boarding {2 years later} Stone is there soon after with his obsession over boarding...As he always is doing searches for water boarding.

Lets put this in perspective/
I am not condoning water boarding but am putting into perspective to what we are dealing with regarding the boarding.
There were several hundred detainees Information became available about a major attack on LA of magnitude equivalent to 9/11...the boardings foiled that attack

The three were asked questions they refused to talk
They were put on the board
For a 15 second run.....2 of the 3 guys broke in less that 15 seconds and talked.
The third guy made it through ...and talked after an addition run later I believe.


Stone gets wind of this ....blows it way up...and has been obsessed with it years later...We did not board for pleasure as the image has been cast.
Its wasnt even news when he got wind of it....fucking old news.

Stones problem and obsession with me comes down to one thing.....I will not call that event that took place torture.
Neither here..nor there{other place}...thus where the obsession comes in at....as we can see there is a strong obsession with boarding....and my refusing to call it legalized torture.

For the forum :
To add further stone was trying to get me banned and wrecked my relationship with staff through pm messages....attacking my character will bullshit just as he has here much like a little girl....cant beat em on board...then feed the staff lies to gain favoritism.


Much like a little girl I say.

He also had a group ...as group leader he could edit and delete posts with the their software.....If a post proved him to be in a lie or disputed his opinion...he would delete the post.

As a result changes had to be made due to the abuse.....due to his censorship.
You will also see many threads of him whining about censorship by staff....AFTER the changes were made due to his abuse.

 

[The Man]

Remember this was your idea...If you re read the early posts in the thread..I asked if this is what you wanted...you continued on and on...and days later here we are.
You brought this on yourself as you have begged for it for days...enjoy that bus stone.
You are showing just how pathetic you truly can be.


:clap

 

[Stone]

Again
You are a pathetic stone.
Now they will see your obsession about boarding at the other place
Multiple polls about boarding....loaded polls denial ....bad move on your part
Documents ,actual lawyers stating the fact...all of which you refuse to accept
And here we are today with the same shit.
But as I said earlier in this thread you will toss yourself under the bus with your own posts.
Well you did..it just took you longer than expected

Hey guys be sure to look at all threads regarding water boarding there are many....look at n the longest one.
The one he linked to is the one he likes the best as it show less of his pathetic behaviour,
The guy is obsessed with the fucking subject and still is years later.

If water board is mentioned anywhere at a forum...he will appear as he is always doing site searches for water boarding.

I have been here 2 years the very first time I mention water boarding {2 years later} Stone is there soon after with his obsession over boarding...As he always is doing searches for water boarding.

Lets put this in perspective/
I am not condoning water boarding but am putting into perspective to what we are dealing with regarding the boarding.
There were several hundred detainees Information became available about a major attack on LA of magnitude equivalent to 9/11...the boardings foiled that attack

The three were asked questions they refused to talk
They were put on the board
For a 15 second run.....2 of the 3 guys broke in less that 15 seconds and talked.
The third guy made it through ...and talked after an addition run later I believe.


Stone gets wind of this ....blows it way up...and has been obsessed with it years later...We did not board for pleasure as the image has been cast.
Its wasnt even news when he got wind of it....fucking old news.

Stones problem and obsession with me comes down to one thing.....I will not call that event that took place torture.
Neither here..nor there{other place}...thus where the obsession comes in at....as we can see there is a strong obsession with boarding....and my refusing to call it legalized torture.

For the forum :
To add further stone was trying to get me banned and wrecked my relationship with staff through pm messages....attacking my character will bullshit just as he has here much like a little girl....cant beat em on board...then feed the staff lies to gain favoritism.


Much like a little girl I say.

He also had a group ...as group leader he could edit and delete posts with the their software.....If a post proved him to be in a lie or disputed his opinion...he would delete the post.

As a result changes had to be made due to the abuse.....due to his censorship.
You will also see many threads of him whining about censorship by staff....AFTER the changes were made due to his abuse.

so fuck you Stone and the horse you rode in on

.

 

[The Man]

I found this last night from the guy that used to fuck with you.
It appeared to have hit a nerve as shown by your posts this morning.

 

[Stone]

...................

He also had a group ...as group leader he could edit and delete posts with the their software.....If a post proved him to be in a lie or disputed his opinion...he would delete the post.

.......................

You never did fit into 'Jack Stone's Anti-Social Social Club' very well.
Looking at the beating you're taking, no wonder

 

[Tim]

Remember this was your idea...If you re read the early posts in the thread..I asked if this is what you wanted...you continued on and on...and days later here we are.
You brought this on yourself as you have begged for it for days...enjoy that bus stone.
You are showing just how pathetic you truly can be.

If anything, you are proving that you are the problem. You can post that long pointless post as many times as you want, it isn't a bus that's driving over stone, it's just showing that your position is screwed up. Your logic doesn't hold up nor does it make any sense at all. Your tactic of changing definitions and twisting words to fit your needs betray you.

You have multiple times in this thread said you support water boarding when it was deemed legal under the bush administration. You can't back away from that fact. You also condone it because you think it yielded results. But the fact that it's torture escapes your logic. This is why it doesn't matter if someone claimed it was legal at the time, it was still torture.

I would love to see you copy and paste more from the other site since it backs up stone's side of the twisted story of TM

 

[The Man]

But I must ask stone....is there one war or conflict that you havent mouthed your own nation about?
NO