Death penetly for child rape

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I've thought about my reply regarding the original issue in this thread and I'd like to ammend it.

I do not agree that a rapist (of any variety) should be killed unless they killed a human being in the process of said rape. While I do support the death penalty I believe that it should only apply when a physical life has been taken.

I know the first reaction one has when their child has been hurt/violated is to "kill that bastard" but in all actuality that makes you no better than the rapist if you follow through (the thought alone though is very normal).

A rapist does what he/she does out of a human desire. They follow a compulsion.

Upset/grieving parents also have a compulsive human desire .. a desire to hurt/maim/kill whoever has hurt/violated their child(ren).

A rapist does not have the right to take what is not theirs/not freely given to them (i.e. consent) nor does a parent have the right to take a life (no matter how angry they may be); a court system was expressly set up to handle it for them .. for a good reason.

We as a sciety can't just go around killing people simply because we feel it needs to be dne. Next on the death table, will repeat DUI offenders be executed as well? The 2 offenders may be different .. but on a basic level they operate the same way.

They both ruin lives, they both pose a physical threat to society, and both offending parties are not able / do not fuction normally in society. Both offenders have a serious addiction.

I think all rapists should not only be taken out of our society, but also placed in a society of their own, and never released back into our society .. permanently.

A society somewhat like that of a military base .. they have their own structured society within military walls. They could create societies just like that for social sexual deviants. These people could have jobs, houses, and support themselves without so much of OUR money being "donated" to their cause by our tax paying dollars.

I think after their stint in prison this is where they should be placed ... a society devoid of children/women (or men/children if it were a female offender .. which is not that big of a problem as men it seems .. the ratio is rather small).

I do believe there are exceptions though. When you have a 19 yr old that slept with his 16 yr old GF .. I honestly do not believe that is criminal (the heart, hrmnes, and the art of attraction at such a young age is a difficult thing) .. and honestly I don't even think that should go on their permanent background/criminal records, although I know it does and will continue to do).
 
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Anyway, having read the ^^^^^what Audra's posted, is what this debate forum is about, so now we all know. :) I hadn't seen it before myself.
 

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A rapist does what he/she does out of a human desire. They follow a compulsion.
There is absolutely nothing human about someone who would make a conscious decision to rape a child.
 

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There is absolutely nothing human about someone who would make a conscious decision to rape a child.

You feel that way because it digusts you .. the very idea of it .. but that is not a logical conclusion. You are looking at it as a parent.

Many studies have proven why they do what they do. They are defective people .. quite simply.

Just like a defective car off an assembly line. THousands of cars come off assembly lines everyday .. occassionally one is a lemon .. doens't make it any less of a car .. just means it's a piece of junk.
 

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You feel that way because it digusts you .. the very idea of it .. but that is not a logical conclusion. You are looking at it as a parent.

Many studies have proven why they do what they do. They are defective people .. quite simply.

Just like a defective car off an assembly line. THousands of cars come off assembly lines everyday .. occassionally one is a lemon .. doens't make it any less of a car .. just means it's a piece of junk.
I assure you that before I was a parent, child rape was still on my list of disgusting things that people deserve to die for.
 

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You feel that way because it digusts you .. the very idea of it .. but that is not a logical conclusion. You are looking at it as a parent.

Many studies have proven why they do what they do. They are defective people .. quite simply.

Just like a defective car off an assembly line. THousands of cars come off assembly lines everyday .. occassionally one is a lemon .. doens't make it any less of a car .. just means it's a piece of junk.


it is because he is a human being,and has a heart
 

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I agree .. and it disgusts me as well .. but I do not believe a person deserves to die unless they themselves take a life.

I do believe they should be punished severely .. but I do not believe a crime begets death unless death was the crime they begot.
 

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I agree .. and it disgusts me as well .. but I do not believe a person deserves to die unless they themselves take a life.

I do believe they should be punished severely .. but I do not believe a crime begets death unless death was the crime they begot.


it is so difficult ,i think sick people are actually sick and cannot take alife altho my instinct is to take revenge and be angry.

im just pleased that the judicery have the resposibilty to deal with it.
i would hate to simply take revenge,altho i admit that if it were my own child i would want to do so
 

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I love how we're throwing around what it means to be human when there really is not true definition of what being human really is.
 

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I love how we're throwing around what it means to be human when there really is not true definition of what being human really is.

"Human" is what each person belives to be "the norm" in regards to each individual person .. and it is then averaged into a belief by factoring those thoughts by what a majority feels connected to.
 

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Intent. The serial killer kills innocents for fun or gain where as execution is to punish somebody for killing innocent people.
Intent means nothing, really. The murderer removed someone he thought he could from society for his/her own reasons, and society removes him/her from society for their own reasons. They both kill with premeditation.
 

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"Human" is what each person belives to be "the norm" in regards to each individual person .. and it is then averaged into a belief by factoring those thoughts by what a majority feels connected to.
yeah but there's really no such thing as human nature, so to say there is a "norm" to how humans act all the time is unfounded.
 

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Intent means nothing, really. The murderer removed someone he thought he could from society for his/her own reasons, and society removes him/her from society for their own reasons. They both kill with premeditation.
You cannot compare the two. It is amazing you even try.
 

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The norm is based on views formed by a society .. views that a majority of the society agree upon and emulated over many generations.
 

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No, you tired but failed.
Not really.

A murderer kills out of a reason, with premeditation

the state kills the killer out of a reason, with premeditation.



really though, are you seriously saying that killing someone back for killing is sending society a very good message?
 
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