Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - A Theory in Crisis... Apparently

[BornReady]

That's not creationism unless they created out of thin air.

Good point. Creationism is magic. If Chuck Missler opened a sealed jar of peanut butter and found a new life form then it would probably make me a believer in creation not evolution. If you don't know who Missler is, don't bother to find out. Now if David Copperfield did it then I wouldn't be as impressed.

 

[Panacea]

Good point. Creationism is magic. If Chuck Missler opened a sealed jar of peanut butter and found a new life form then it would probably make me a believer in creation not evolution. If you don't know who Missler is, don't bother to find out. Now if David Copperfield did it then I wouldn't be as impressed.

Good post lol

 

[MainerMikeBrown]

When Darwin came up with his theories on Evolution, he was torn since it went against his religious beliefs.

 

[Kyanin]

If a scientist sees a phenomenon he can't explain, he will research it. The creationist will declare it as an evidence for the existence of a creator, drink a beer and go to bed. I don't like beer, so i have to prefer the scientific way.

 

[clancy]

If a scientist sees a phenomenon he can't explain, he will research it. The creationist will declare it as an evidence for the existence of a creator, drink a beer and go to bed. I don't like beer, so i have to prefer the scientific way.

Really? then tell us what you know about the theory of evolution professor.

 

[savvy]

I love how atheists cling to the theory of evolution like it was their bible. I have read this thread and haven't seen the first post concerning anything about evolution, only the bashing of religion. No one has mentioned that the theory of evolution is actually made up of theories and sub-theories. No one has mentioned them and which particular one they believe. The reason: when the lay person talks about science they are usually talking out their ass. Which is what is going on here.

That being said let me clue the Einsteins in on something they must be unaware of and that is Evolution does not deal with the origin of life. Evolution only deals with how life changes over time,once life already exists. Yet atheists clammer on about "science."
Give me a break. Most scientists are mostly concerned with what they are researching. Not every scientific discipline has to do with the origins of life or trying to prove religion wrong. Many scientists aren't that concerned with it. Only scam artists atheists trying to sell books go on about this nonsense to make money off the rubes who buy their books.

 

[kanojoe]

I love how atheists cling to the theory of evolution like it was their bible. I have read this thread and haven't seen the first post concerning anything about evolution, only the bashing of religion. No one has mentioned that the theory of evolution is actually made up of theories and sub-theories. No one has mentioned them and which particular one they believe. The reason: when the lay person talks about science they are usually talking out their ass. Which is what is going on here.

That being said let me clue the Einsteins in on something they must be unaware of and that is Evolution does not deal with the origin of life. Evolution only deals with how life changes over time,once life already exists. Yet atheists clammer on about "science."
Give me a break. Most scientists are mostly concerned with what they are researching. Not every scientific discipline has to do with the origins of life or trying to prove religion wrong. Many scientists aren't that concerned with it. Only scam artists atheists trying to sell books go on about this nonsense to make money off the rubes who buy their books.

Excellent post and right on target. I don't think science and religion are at odds like some people are wishing. Religion isn't as near as dangerous to society as nutbags who imagine conspiracies.

 

[machinex]

I still think we're all aliens... My moms bf thinks this was a prison planet. Makes a bit of sense when you think about how fucked up society is.

he is probably not that far off really. i have thought the same. honestly we are all just still egyptian slaves. we are just in a more advanced techno society. the pyramid still stares at you on the dollar bill in your pocket

so we are definitely slaves - but to who and what?

when you go and read in to the conspiracies, there is lots of truths, but LOADS of deliberate planted misinfo/disinfo

they muddy up the waters so much no one can tell whats real or not.

 

[Alien Allen]

I see we have a new breed of trolls thrashing about

Gets tiresome

Carry On

 

[skyblue]

Really? then tell us what you know about the theory of evolution professor.

can i answer for him?......before you reply to that ask around on here where my interests lie

 

[Panacea]

I see we have a new breed of trolls thrashing about

Gets tiresome

Carry On

Makes ya appreciate John and Minor, doesn't it?
Don't answer that :24:

 

[MrHeinz]

Excellent post and right on target. I don't think science and religion are at odds like some people are wishing. Religion isn't as near as dangerous to society as nutbags who imagine conspiracies.

I am a Christian and don't have a problem with evolution. I think atheists like to imagine Christians don't believe at all in evolution but like it was mentioned earlier it has little if nothing to do with the origins of life. Evolution doesn't really explain alot about what causes evolution. Something from nothing is pretty much all it claims. Sounds like magic to me but then even magic requires a magician.

 

[savvy]

The theory of evolution does have its problems. In recent years computers have been used to test theories including ones in evolutionary biology. What computers have basically shown is the neat evolutionary trees that get drawn up are based on imaginary relations of similarity and difference that have more to do with the human mind's tendency to perceive patterns than with the raw biological data. When the characteristics of different living things are put in numerical form and the computer is asked to sort them based on their similarities and differences, the computer can find any number of ways of sorting that have just as much support in the data as those drawn up by humans to fit an evolutionary tree. The information is against evolution just as much as it is for it. The theory of evolution seems to be the result of the pattern-craving human mind. When the data is looked at objectively the result looks more like a shrub instead of a tree.

 

[clancy]

The theory of evolution does have its problems. In recent years computers have been used to test theories including ones in evolutionary biology. What computers have basically shown is the neat evolutionary trees that get drawn up are based on imaginary relations of similarity and difference that have more to do with the human mind's tendency to perceive patterns than with the raw biological data. When the characteristics of different living things are put in numerical form and the computer is asked to sort them based on their similarities and differences, the computer can find any number of ways of sorting that have just as much support in the data as those drawn up by humans to fit an evolutionary tree. The information is against evolution just as much as it is for it. The theory of evolution seems to be the result of the pattern-craving human mind. When the data is looked at objectively the result looks more like a shrub instead of a tree.

Good post. Very informative.

 

[savvy]

That isn't the only problem the theory of evolution has. It was once thought evolution happened gradually but the fossil record doesn't support this idea. If this had been the case there would be plenty of "in between" species that show this but there isn't. Of course this was reconciled by claiming that evolution happened in bursts not gradually. This reminds me of the about face that was done when evidence shown the universe had a beginning instead of being eternal like science taught for many years.

 

[Kyanin]

Really? then tell us what you know about the theory of evolution professor.

Sorry, English isn`t my mother tongue, so at the moment I'm not able to explain you something like evolution.
By the way: I`m no professor - but I hope I will become this in about twenty years.

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is -as the name says - a theory. Nobody calls it perfect, nobody says, thaw we are able to refollow every step starting with the beginning of life. But at the moment we have no theory with more evidences. We have fossils. We have genetic similarities of different species all over the world. A few weeks ago I read an article about the evolution of the eye. Scientists analysed the eye of a species of small, nearly blind fishes and compared it with our eye. Much structures asre homologue but they have a complete different use.
The only point neither Darwin nor creationists can explain is the beginning of live. Maybe, chemistry will find the answer - or one possibility - one day, maybe not. We will see.

 

[savvy]

Sorry, English isn`t my mother tongue, so at the moment I'm not able to explain you something like evolution.
By the way: I`m no professor - but I hope I will become this in about twenty years.

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is -as the name says - a theory. Nobody calls it perfect, nobody says, thaw we are able to refollow every step starting with the beginning of life. But at the moment we have no theory with more evidences. We have fossils. We have genetic similarities of different species all over the world. A few weeks ago I read an article about the evolution of the eye. Scientists analysed the eye of a species of small, nearly blind fishes and compared it with our eye. Much structures asre homologue but they have a complete different use.
The only point neither Darwin nor creationists can explain is the beginning of live. Maybe, chemistry will find the answer - or one possibility - one day, maybe not. We will see.

You seem to be open minded enough to understand it. That is good. Just be aware that people have agendas when it comes to this sort of thing. It is always best to look at the data yourself to draw your own conclusions because atheists have hijacked the theory of evolution. There are many books written by atheist apologists that try and reconcile data that doesn't match what they want. Those who write these books leave out vital information and outright lie to make the data say what they want.

 

[clancy]

You seem to be open minded enough to understand it. That is good. Just be aware that people have agendas when it comes to this sort of thing. It is always best to look at the data yourself to draw your own conclusions because atheists have hijacked the theory of evolution. There are many books written by atheist apologists that try and reconcile data that doesn't match what they want. Those who write these books leave out vital information and outright lie to make the data say what they want.

Yes, but this isn't the first time the theory of evolution has been hijacked. Darwin's idea that evolution means: the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life eventually led to Nazism and the Jewish holocaust - even though Darwin himself would have been appalled at the thought.

 

[MrHeinz]

Yes, but this isn't the first time the theory of evolution has been hijacked. Darwin's idea that evolution means: the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life eventually led to Nazism and the Jewish holocaust - even though Darwin himself would have been appalled at the thought.

I guess you could chalk that up to a negative when it comes to science.

 

[zen]

I see we have a new breed of trolls thrashing about

Gets tiresome

Carry On

Excellent post and right on target.