Conservatism Thrives on Low Intelligence and Poor Information

[The Man]

Liberals
They cant understand that abortion is taking a life.
They cant understand that raising taxes on a business is an expense for the business just like payroll and cost for materials...elevating the cost of the product...which comes out of the buyers pocket anyway...Thats balance..however it causes job loss to other nations.
They want to have a wedding and marry a house......perhaps the nut house should have power of attorney.
Gay marriage........Hmmm..the vows are for a man and wife..not a man and man or a man and house...learn to read.
Legalize drugs so they can wipe out grandma and grandpa on the free way
Sit on their ass and draw welfare while the conservative goes to work....I have to give em that one
OWS.....a fine example of liberals...make a daisy chain and get pepper sprayed........What the fuck did they think was going to happen?...Fucking idiots
Rapes and assaults at OWS...now thats smart.
99 percent...the fuckers cant do math as they dont represent 99 percent...so they are either stupid or liars...but hey are smart for the attempted deception.

Now the 1 percent...Those tea party guys..They know how to get a permit prior to a function ..smart fellows...No pepper spray..No rapes.
The more we look at things..the more it appears that liberals are driven by greed and the moment.

 

[Joe the meek]

Liberals
They cant understand that abortion is taking a life.
They cant understand that raising taxes on a business is an expense for the business just like payroll and cost for materials...elevating the cost of the product...which comes out of the buyers pocket anyway...Thats balance..however it causes job loss to other nations.
They want to have a wedding and marry a house......perhaps the nut house should have power of attorney.
Gay marriage........Hmmm..the vows are for a man and wife..not a man and man or a man and house...learn to read.
Legalize drugs so they can wipe out grandma and grandpa on the free way
Sit on their ass and draw welfare while the conservative goes to work....I have to give em that one
OWS.....a fine example of liberals...make a daisy chain and get pepper sprayed........What the fuck did they think was going to happen?...Fucking idiots
Rapes and assaults at OWS...now thats smart.
99 percent...the fuckers cant do math as they dont represent 99 percent...so they are either stupid or liars...but hey are smart for the attempted deception.

Now the 1 percent...Those tea party guys..They know how to get a permit prior to a function ..smart fellows...No pepper spray..No rapes.
The more we look at things..the more it appears that liberals are driven by greed and the moment.

Couple quick thoughts as I don't have the time right now due to work...

Legalization of drugs? Look at the history of alcohol in the U.S.

Those tea party guys? I know one very well who is a customer of mine. He needs to take a business class on how to manage his money.

Abortion? Outlaw it and it will still exist as it has in the past.

Greed? No man, no matter what political affiliation he belongs to is immune to it. You should be smart enough to realize that.

Gay marriage? Who the **** cares who marries who? Look at the divorce rate with heterosexuals. If gays want to be miserable and married like the rest of us, at least give them the legal benefits to do so, because the legal rights are issued by the state, NOT the church.

 

[The Man]

Couple quick thoughts as I don't have the time right now due to work...

Legalization of drugs? Look at the history of alcohol in the U.S.

Those tea party guys? I know one very well who is a customer of mine. He needs to take a business class on how to manage his money.

Abortion? Outlaw it and it will still exist as it has in the past.

Greed? No man, no matter what political affiliation he belongs to is immune to it. You should be smart enough to realize that.

Gay marriage? Who the **** cares who marries who? Look at the divorce rate with heterosexuals. If gays want to be miserable and married like the rest of us, at least give them the legal benefits to do so, because the legal rights are issued by the state, NOT the church.

Couple quick thoughts as I don't have the time right now due to work...

Conservative leaned..I like that

Legalization of drugs? Look at the history of alcohol in the U.S.

So why legalize worse drugs?

Abortion? Outlaw it and it will still exist as it has in the past.

The point is they refuse to call the baby a life.

Greed? No man, no matter what political affiliation he belongs to is immune to it. You should be smart enough to realize that.

This thread is a thread of generalization not specific individuals

Gay marriage? Who the **** cares who marries who? Look at the divorce rate with heterosexuals.

Divorce rate doesnt negate the intentions of marriage.

Those tea party guys? I know one very well who is a customer of mine. He needs to take a business class on how to manage his money.

I suspect due to liberal tax laws which are aimed at raping his profits.

If gays want to be miserable and married like the rest of us, at least give them the legal benefits to do so, because the legal rights are issued by the state, NOT the church

You sound as if marriage is a mistake in itself...why wish that on gays?
The church has nothing to do with it...Marriage was and is intended to be between and man and a wife...legal benefits can be obtained without marriage...none the less legal benefits are a selfish motive for marriage and should be denied on those very grounds

 

[Joe the meek]

I suspect due to liberal tax laws which are aimed at raping his profits.

You suspect wrong. Due to buying a SUV and other toys without knowing his P&L statement like he should and putting those toys down for business and he has to try to pay for those toys first before he can pay his vendors. Kicker is, he is a hard core "tea partier" who goes to all these tea party events and is "hardcore" republican.

But then again, you have hard core republicans who are anti gay but go cruising the men's bathrooms looking for a hook up, so who knows LOL

Social issues rarely can be painted with a single stroke of the brush as some people would like to think.

By the way, the REAL reason why marriage came into existence was for the "social legitimization" of having children between a couple. Being married gives people certain legal rights. I have no qualms giving gay couples those same legal rights. This is kind of like the Jews in an uproar because the Mormons may of baptized Ann Frank. Who the **** really cares? So what if a gay couple get's married? Who does it really hurt? Hey, try to pinch my ass and I'll knock you on your ass, but, want to shack up with someone and make it official? I don't really care.

Do I believe in abortion? No. However, do I have a right to tell a woman what she can or can't do? No.

Funny, those two idiots who are under arrest for running the little girl literally to death, guess what? That mother is expecting another child.

Personally, I believe in forced sterilization of some people because I don't think they should be given the right to breed because they are idiots. However, when you give the task of regulating others to other human beings, look out, particularly if the government gets involved. Look no further than the TSA for a simple example.

 

[Accountable]

So why legalize worse drugs?

Because we don't have the right to protect adults from harming themselves.

The point is they refuse to call the baby a life.

Yup. Infuriatin', ain't it?

Divorce rate doesnt negate the intentions of marriage.

What do you think are the "intentions" of marriage?

The church has nothing to do with it...Marriage was and is intended to be between and man and a wife...legal benefits can be obtained without marriage...none the less legal benefits are a selfish motive for marriage and should be denied on those very grounds

It seems your hangup is with the name rather than the benefits. What's so special about the word "marriage"?

 

[The Man]

Because we don't have the right to protect adults from harming themselves.

Yup. Infuriatin', ain't it?

What do you think are the "intentions" of marriage?

It seems your hangup is with the name rather than the benefits. What's so special about the word "marriage"?

Because we don't have the right to protect adults from harming themselves.

This isnt skydiving..this is public interaction while in a state of altered mind that causes danger to society through risks of impairment.

Yup. Infuriatin', ain't it?

Its murder

What do you think are the "intentions" of marriage?

Per vows as stated and not for state benefits as suggested .

It seems your hangup is with the name rather than the benefits. What's so special about the word "marriage"?

No problem with the word marriage...however the benefits from the state should not be motive for marriage...With that logic one gets married according the benefits and not the vows.
This places greed as a motive for marriage.............As mentioned by myself earlier greed is the driving force for liberal ideals

 

[Accountable]

This isnt skydiving..this is public interaction while in a state of altered mind that causes danger to society through risks of impairment.

Not necessarily. Public drunkenness is illegal while drinking is not. No reason why other drugs besides alcohol can't be treated similarly.

Its murder

Yup.

Per vows as stated and not for state benefits as suggested .

Are there always vows involved?? I don't remember making any vows or taking any oaths when I got married. I just signed a contract.

No problem with the word marriage...however the benefits from the state should not be motive for marriage...With that logic one gets married according the benefits and not the vows.
This places greed as a motive for marriage.............As mentioned by myself earlier greed is the driving force for liberal ideals

What other motive is there to make a marriage official, especially since the church has nothing to do with it?

 

[The Man]

Not necessarily. Public drunkenness is illegal while drinking is not. No reason why other drugs besides alcohol can't be treated similarly.

Yup.

Are there always vows involved?? I don't remember making any vows or taking any oaths when I got married. I just signed a contract.

What other motive is there to make a marriage official, especially since the church has nothing to do with it?

Not necessarily. Public drunkenness is illegal while drinking is not. No reason why other drugs besides alcohol can't be treated similarly.

And some of these drugs are legal..however many are controlled due their effect and dangers.

Yup.

Yep,,the ideals of a liberal...its ok to murder

Are there always vows involved?? I don't remember making any vows or taking any oaths when I got married. I just signed a contract.

Then why did you get married?....For the benefits again that is a decision based on greed rather than a marriage for intended purpose.

What other motive is there to make a marriage official, especially since the church has nothing to do with it?

Marriage doesn't have to be church driven.
A marriage is a commitment the motive is commitment/ not the state benefits

I see it as a commitment /you see it as state benefits

One is aimed at a family strength ..the other is aimed at ones self in way of benefits

 

[Accountable]

Then why did you get married?

Because Uncle Sam wouldn't allow me to bring my beloved to the States unless we got married. Greed of benefits.

....For the benefits again that is a decision based on greed rather than a marriage for intended purpose.

Again, you don't say what the intended purpose for the gov't institution of marriage is.

Marriage doesn't have to be church driven.
A marriage is a commitment the motive is commitment/ not the state benefits

I see it as a commitment /you see it as state benefits

One is aimed at a family strength ..the other is aimed at ones self in way of benefits

Ah, you presume to know my motives; you are incorrect. I've stated many times that the gov't shouldn't be in the business of marriage at all. No legislative pressure is necessary for people to commit to each other. If anything, it detracts from a true commitment by injecting coercion into the mix.

Still, nothing you said in your explanation indicated any reason at all that can't be applied to a homosexual relationship, or any other consensual adult arrangement.

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[The Man]

Because Uncle Sam wouldn't allow me to bring my beloved to the States unless we got married. Greed of benefits.

Again, you don't say what the intended purpose for the gov't institution of marriage is.

Ah, you presume to know my motives; you are incorrect. I've stated many times that the gov't shouldn't be in the business of marriage at all. No legislative pressure is necessary for people to commit to each other. If anything, it detracts from a true commitment by injecting coercion into the mix.

Still, nothing you said in your explanation indicated any reason at all that can't be applied to a homosexual relationship, or any other consensual adult arrangement.

Because Uncle Sam wouldn't allow me to bring my beloved to the States unless we got married. Greed of benefits.

It appears as if you got married because you had to....or you would have brought her over

Again, you don't say what the intended purpose for the gov't institution of marriage is

Sure I have..for the commitment.

Ah, you presume to know my motives; you are incorrect. I've stated many times that the gov't shouldn't be in the business of marriage at all. No legislative pressure is necessary for people to commit to each other. If anything, it detracts from a true commitment by injecting coercion into the mix.

If you feel the govt shouldnt be in the business of marriage...that brings it back to the church.

No legislative pressure is necessary for people to commit to each other

Correct...my point is marriage should be the commitment and not the purpose of benefits.

Still, nothing you said in your explanation indicated any reason at all that can't be applied to a homosexual relationship, or any other consensual adult arrangement

Sure it does...as the gay marriage argument is that of benefits..you have even stated that legislation isnt needed for commitment.

 

[The Man]

You suspect wrong. Due to buying a SUV and other toys without knowing his P&L statement like he should and putting those toys down for business and he has to try to pay for those toys first before he can pay his vendors. Kicker is, he is a hard core "tea partier" who goes to all these tea party events and is "hardcore" republican.

But then again, you have hard core republicans who are anti gay but go cruising the men's bathrooms looking for a hook up, so who knows LOL

Social issues rarely can be painted with a single stroke of the brush as some people would like to think.

By the way, the REAL reason why marriage came into existence was for the "social legitimization" of having children between a couple. Being married gives people certain legal rights. I have no qualms giving gay couples those same legal rights. This is kind of like the Jews in an uproar because the Mormons may of baptized Ann Frank. Who the **** really cares? So what if a gay couple get's married? Who does it really hurt? Hey, try to pinch my ass and I'll knock you on your ass, but, want to shack up with someone and make it official? I don't really care.

Do I believe in abortion? No. However, do I have a right to tell a woman what she can or can't do? No.

Funny, those two idiots who are under arrest for running the little girl literally to death, guess what? That mother is expecting another child.

Personally, I believe in forced sterilization of some people because I don't think they should be given the right to breed because they are idiots. However, when you give the task of regulating others to other human beings, look out, particularly if the government gets involved. Look no further than the TSA for a simple example.

By the way, the REAL reason why marriage came into existence was for the "social legitimization" of having children between a couple. Being married gives people certain legal rights. I have no qualms giving gay couples those same legal rights. This is kind of like the Jews in an uproar because the Mormons may of baptized Ann Frank. Who the **** really cares? So what if a gay couple get's married? Who does it really hurt? Hey, try to pinch my ass and I'll knock you on your ass, but, want to shack up with someone and make it official? I don't really care.

Yes and no
The benefits came later.
Marriage became as a protection for the woman for family security.
This prevents the man from having several women{at least thats the goal}
This offers security for the children though the mother with marriage.
Without it..man screws woman leaves and screws more women.
In early history the children stayed with the mothers while the men came and went.
In all reality marriage is a trap.
The only intent was security for the mother /which provided security for the children.
It had nothing to do with rights.
A marriage based on rights rather than security for the children through commitment is an argument of greed via benefits

Do I believe in abortion? No. However, do I have a right to tell a woman what she can or can't do? No.

It isnt about the woman..its about the child..just because she is the mother does not give her the right to take the child's life

 

[Accountable]

If you feel the govt shouldnt be in the business of marriage...that brings it back to the church.

Yes. I don't see any other purpose for the formal institution.

Correct...my point is marriage should be the commitment and not the purpose of benefits.

Then there's no need for a legal definition at all.

Sure it does...as the gay marriage argument is that of benefits..you have even stated that legislation isnt needed for commitment.

I've also stated that legal marriage isn't needed for heterosexuals, either. But if there's going to be a legal definition for marriage, there's no rational reason it can't be extended to any/all permanent consenting adult relationships.

 

[Alien Allen]

It isnt about the woman..its about the child..just because she is the mother does not give her the right to take the child's life

Is it a child the next day after having sex?

Are you against the morning after pill?

Once there is a fetus does the womans health trump the fetus?

If a woman is raped should a woman be allowed to abort?

 

[The Man]

Is it a child the next day after having sex?

Are you against the morning after pill?

Once there is a fetus does the womans health trump the fetus?

If a woman is raped should a woman be allowed to abort?

Is it a child the next day after having sex?

Its a life

Are you against the morning after pill?

If you are pregnant you are pregnant...taking a life is taking a life.

Once there is a fetus does the womans health trump the fetus?

Thats a tough one AA...We dont want to kill the mother while she is carrying a child..as a dead mother equals dead child..that should be a case by case basis.

If a woman is raped should a woman be allowed to abort?

Nope...Isnt the babies fault..why kill it?


That also brings about false rape charges to get abortions if abortion is illegal except under rape...Women will claim rape for the abortion...People lie..its fact

 

[The Man]

Yes. I don't see any other purpose for the formal institution.

Then there's no need for a legal definition at all.

I've also stated that legal marriage isn't needed for heterosexuals, either. But if there's going to be a legal definition for marriage, there's no rational reason it can't be extended to any/all permanent consenting adult relationships.

I agree marriage is just a piece of paper..the vows come from within ones heart.
But marriage was meant for the mothers security which provided security for the child..without it men just go screwing them all and cant support the current famiy
Marriage ties a commitment to that family...the end result is to benefit the child...not state benefits.
None the less one can give lets say decision making on the death bed..wills etc to a lover without marriage...marriage isnt required for the benefits..there is no reason to create new laws when there are already laws in place

 

[The Man]

As stated prior marriage is a trap..thus why I havent married.
Divorce can be nasty.
Why should the state be involved when 2 people want to part their ways?
Aint no bitch getting any of my shit

 

[Alien Allen]

Its a life


If you are pregnant you are pregnant...taking a life is taking a life.


Thats a tough one AA...We dont want to kill the mother while she is carrying a child..as a dead mother equals dead child..that should be a case by case basis.


Nope...Isnt the babies fault..why kill it?


That also brings about false rape charges to get abortions if abortion is illegal except under rape...Women will claim rape for the abortion...People lie..its fact

You do realize it can take days for conception?

I have yet to hear about any case where a woman claimed rape to get an abortion.

 

[The Man]

When the little sperm goes through the egg..you are now pregnant..it does not take days

 

[The Man]

Ah, you presume to know my motives; you are incorrect.

You are correct..you did not state such..the posts had become muddled together and I forgot who posted what after I hit the quote button.
My apologies ...as you have never stated it was for benefits.