Children & The Naked Body.

[SRC]

Then you tell them that if anyone touches them in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable or says things to them that they don't understand .. then they should come tell you immediantly.

You can't make them think everyone who touches them is going to molest them .. kids take things very literal when you tell them .. they have no grey areas .. you have to be careful what you tell them .. as they don't fully grasp what you say when you say it at all times.

Little kids? Do you mean prepubescent ones or ones just going through puberty? Because prepubescent kids aren't sexual entities at all.

Little kids, as in 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 yr olds .. those are little kids .. and if you think they aren't "sexual entities" you need to read the news more often.

Children masturbate a LOT at those ages .. what do you think they are doing exactly?

 

[All Else Failed]

Then you tell them that if anyone touches them in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable or says things to them that they don't understand .. then they should come tell you immediantly.

You can't make them think everyone who touches them is going to molest them .. kids take things very literal when you tell them .. they have no grey areas .. you have to be careful what you tell them .. as they don't fully grasp what you say when you say it at all times.




Little kids, as in 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 yr olds .. those are little kids .. and if you think they aren't "sexual entities" you need to read the news more often.

Children masturbate a LOT at those ages .. what do you think they are doing exactly?

Sexual entities meaning they do not have developed sexual organs or sexual mindsets. They may touch themselves and think it feels good, at very early ages, but I doubt a 6 year old thinks "omg masturbation sex sex sex!".

 

[Peter Parka]

they have no grey areas .. you have to be careful what you tell them .. as they don't fully grasp what you say when you say it at all times.

I would say that is a very good reason why they need it spelled out to them clearly!

 

[SRC]

I would say that is a very good reason why they need it spelled out to them clearly!

evidently you don't understand either .. you mus tnot know how children are at all ..

You CAN'T spell it out for them like you do to an adult .. THEY DON'T "GET" what you mean. All they know is you're telling them when people touch them they want to hurt them. They can't differentiate between their grandad hugging them and groping them .. their minds don't "get it" yet.

The mind has to develope in certain stages .. and you can't make it develope faster than it does .. no matter HOW MUCH information you try to stuff in it.

You can tell them til you are blue in the face .. but until their brains have developed to a point where rationalization starts to occur .. they just aren't able to distinguish some things apart from others. And when you tell them things like that .. it scares them instead of warns them.

 

[Peter Parka]

All they know is you're telling them when people touch them they want to hurt them. They can't differentiate between their grandad hugging them and groping them .. their minds don't "get it" yet.

So explain the difference between a hug and a grope then!

 

[Pudding Time]

Ha, have you ever seen TV in Europe? There is a lot more straight up nudity on afternoon programming than there ever will be in America.

Yep.. When I lived in Copenhagen, hardcore porn would come on (free to air) TV every thurdays night at 10:30pm..

 

[SRC]

So explain the difference between a hug and a grope then!

That isn't the point .. I'm done discussing this with you Peter .. you obviously don't get what I'm saying .. and I can't make you understand it, nor explain myself and further.

 

[Pudding Time]

I was having sex at 12.

I will teach my son about sex before his puberty. He will know exactly what it is, and what society believe is right and wrong. Then I will teach him what I think is right and wrong when it comes to sex.

I don't believe exposure to sex harms kids at all. And I mean kids seeing sex, not engaging in it. Though kids engaging in sex with kids the same age is not going to harm them.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

How is seeing sex damaging to a child?

No, you did not just say that.

 

[SRC]

I'm sorry .. even though some do it I don't want my son having sex at 12. 12 is a child .. and sex shouldn't be something they ared oing at 12. They should be playing video games or riding bikes with their friends or skateboarding .. not having sexual relations.

 

[Pudding Time]

That's just your beliefs though..

 

[SRC]

Isn't that what we're discussing here? our beliefs?

 

[Pudding Time]

Isn't that what we're discussing here? our beliefs?

Actually I wanted people to discuss why they have these beliefs..

I know you are from the south. And I already had a very good idea what your beliefs on this matter were..

I just find it interesting that one country can be extremely against one thing, while another country completely the opposite.

 

[All Else Failed]

No, you did not just say that.

Unless you can provide me evidence that it damages them to see a sexual act, its complete rubbish.

 

[SRC]

I just find it interesting that one country can be extremely against one thing, while another country completely the opposite.

I think it's just how our countries were founded, why they were founded, and by who they were founded.

People want to argue that this country (the US) wasn't founded based on religion .. but it was, even if it was in a round about way .. no matter how they want to fight it, it's still true (even until today).

*disclaimer - that doesn't mean that this country is a "religious" country now .. just saying the people who founded it way back when .. weren't not religious.

 

[All Else Failed]

I think it's just how our countries were founded, why they were founded, and by who they were founded.

People want to argue that this country (the US) wasn't founded based on religion .. but it was, even if it was in a round about way .. no matter how they want to fight it, it's still true (even until today).

*disclaimer - that doesn't mean that this country is a "religious" country now .. just saying the people who founded it way back when .. weren't not religious.

Ugh I hate this subject.


The country was funded on enlightenment/Renaissance ideals. That is all.

 

[SRC]

And what was happening during that time, exactly? It was a lot of church of England bullshit .. wasn't it? And the church bossing people around and telling them what they were and were not gonna do .. and some people got tired of their shit and wanted out.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Unless you can provide me evidence that it damages them to see a sexual act, its complete rubbish.

I don't have the time nor care to look for evidence at this time. Instead I'll offer some common sense. Consider this:

You know what sex is right?...two or more people having hot sex. You've either done it, seen it or heard about it...perhaps even fantasized about it. Keep that picture in your mind for a bit. Now consider a child in the same room looking on at that. Now appreciating as fact that kids absorb as much as they can in those formative years. Consider the curiosity and mental images stored. Kids don't remember you (may) say. Well think again. Most do for the remainder of their lives.

With that in mind and knowing or having an idea of what goes on when two (or more) people are engaging in hot torrid sex and now tell me that that is the sort of picture they ought to be seeing at an early age and that it can't affect them mentally in a damaging way.

 

[SRC]

lol my son is 11 and can tell me verbatim some things that I've said when he was 2-3 years old .. it's freaky

 

[All Else Failed]

And what was happening during that time, exactly? It was a lot of church of England bullshit .. wasn't it? And the church bossing people around and telling them what they were and were not gonna do .. and some people got tired of their shit and wanted out.

I'm not talking about the puritans. I'm talking about the founding fathers. The puritans didn't found Revolutionary America.