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OUZBnd

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How can you say that you do not contribute? Maybe not to this specific reserve in canada. Every single thing you own, every single tool you use, every single source of energy you consume had to come from the environment and its resources. So tell me how you can be so sure that,for example, in the processing of your keyboard that you type this shit on a squirrel wasn't killed?

I hate destroying of the environment also, but you seem to only equate it to those who produce the oil, not those who consume it. Humans are not the only species who change the course of nature. What about a beaver colony who builds a massive damn and destroys the eco system down stream? Or destroys what used to be a marsh land, but now its a pond or a lake. Do you hold them accountable for killing thousands of spotted frogs? Or do you say its okay because they need a place to live, just like humans?
 

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OUZBnd said:
How can you say that you do not contribute? Maybe not to this specific reserve in canada. Every single thing you own, every single tool you use, every single source of energy you consume had to come from the environment and its resources. So tell me how you can be so sure that,for example, in the processing of your keyboard that you type this shit on a squirrel wasn't killed?

I hate destroying of the environment also, but you seem to only equate it to those who produce the oil, not those who consume it. Humans are not the only species who change the course of nature. What about a beaver colony who builds a massive damn and destroys the eco system down stream? Or destroys what used to be a marsh land, but now its a pond or a lake. Do you hold them accountable for killing thousands of spotted frogs? Or do you say its okay because they need a place to live, just like humans?
Well for starters I knew it would piss you off.
And the truth of it all I don't need any of these oil base products to survive. If one day they up and vanished. that would be a good day for me. It would make me very happy.
I simply use these products because they are an easily achivable luxury.
As for the Beaver..
The beaver does what it does out of instinct and has no idea of what it is doing to the enviroment down stream
We the humans destroy out of greed and know exactly what we do.
We even have the intelligence to know that it is wrong but blanket it with false pressumptions of the benefits of how it wil help all man kind.

It is wrong what they do and shame on you for thinking other wise.
 

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tonytroll said:
Well for starters I knew it would piss you off.
And the truth of it all I don't need any of these oil base products to survive. If one day they up and vanished. that would be a good day for me. It would make me very happy.
I simply use these products because they are an easily achivable luxury.

We the humans destroy out of greed and know exactly what we do.
We even have the intelligence to know that it is wrong but blanket it with false pressumptions of the benefits of how it wil help all man kind.

It is wrong what they do and shame on you for thinking other wise.


You're obviously beyond reason, or intelligent conversation.

Good day.
 

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you pups need to grow up and smell the coffee.
The fact of the matter is.. this subject is not about what I do or what I use ...Its about Sand Oil....What part of that do you not understand?
apperently the whole thing.. You're weak agruements rotate around attacking me as an indualvidual and saying I am the cause of the destruction of the world.. Do you know how weak that is? It called deviation and avoidence. It might work on your mommies and daddies but not me.
How you can sit around and justifie the destruction of a land mass the size of Oregon is pretty pathetic. All in the name of oil.
And your wishing I never joined? Oh Boo Hoo..go cry to mommy she can blow on your boo boo..

Sheesh next you'll be saying that if you drive a VW you support Adoulf Hitler and if you buy from china you support communism..
 

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tonytroll said:
you pups need to grow up and smell the coffee.
The fact of the matter is.. this subject is not about what I do or what I use ...Its about Sand Oil....What part of that do you not understand?
apperently the whole thing.. You're weak agruements rotate around attacking me as an indualvidual and saying I am the cause of the destruction of the world.. Do you know how weak that is? It called deviation and avoidence. It might work on your mommies and daddies but not me.
How you can sit around and justifie the destruction of a land mass the size of Oregon is pretty pathetic. All in the name of oil.
And your wishing I never joined? Oh Boo Hoo..go cry to mommy she can blow on your boo boo..

Sheesh next you'll be saying that if you drive a VW you support Adoulf Hitler and if you buy from china you support communism..

Aw so now you're changing it up. First it was the size of England, which has less area that Oregon.

My point here was, even though you think it's irrelevant, that as lemon said is a temporary destruction. You're hating on Canada for something the US has done for many years previous to Canada finally tapping into their resources to make some money. I don't see what the big deal is, Canada sucks for doing what the rest of the world has already done. :dunno
 

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anyways i wouldn't worry about too much, Canadians do things like that the most humane way possible. i'm sure the animals will be taken care of and the land will suffer as minimal damage as possible
 

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2000Si said:
tonytroll said:
you pups need to grow up and smell the coffee.
The fact of the matter is.. this subject is not about what I do or what I use ...Its about Sand Oil....What part of that do you not understand?
apperently the whole thing.. You're weak agruements rotate around attacking me as an indualvidual and saying I am the cause of the destruction of the world.. Do you know how weak that is? It called deviation and avoidence. It might work on your mommies and daddies but not me.
How you can sit around and justifie the destruction of a land mass the size of Oregon is pretty pathetic. All in the name of oil.
And your wishing I never joined? Oh Boo Hoo..go cry to mommy she can blow on your boo boo..

Sheesh next you'll be saying that if you drive a VW you support Adoulf Hitler and if you buy from china you support communism..

Aw so now you're changing it up. First it was the size of England, which has less area that Oregon.

My point here was, even though you think it's irrelevant, that as lemon said is a temporary destruction. You're hating on Canada for something the US has done for many years previous to Canada finally tapping into their resources to make some money. I don't see what the big deal is, Canada sucks for doing what the rest of the world has already done. :dunno

Oregon and Great Britain are about the same in land mass.

I don't hate the canadians.

I hate greed.

It's not like canada is suffering finacially.

So your point is "It's ok because every one else is doing it."?

The big deal is: It's wrong. It's greed. It's unecissary. We have the knowledge to produce cheaper more efficient fuels.

But do we do it> Nah it would put to many large corparations out of business..

Then who would pay for the VP's hunting trips?
 

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HC_CrAzYHoRsE said:
anyways i wouldn't worry about too much, Canadians do things like that the most humane way possible. i'm sure the animals will be taken care of and the land will suffer as minimal damage as possible
that's not what I read. They knew about this deposit 30 years ago. they did were doing tests to find a more enviormentally safe way to remove the oil. guess the got impatient. the land that they did strip 30 years ago still hasn't recovered. So know they are going ahead with mass strippage.. I sure hope they know what they are doing.

go here [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_sands [/url]


The thing that bothers me is.. Oil is flamible, they are about to uncover a very very large section of oily ground. I hope that this stuff isn't combustible..That would be one hell of a mess.

This is oil sand, average bitumen contains 83.2% carbon, 10.4% hydrogen, 0.94% oxygen, 0.36% nitrogen and 4.8% sulphur.

That is one ingredient away from one mighty fine explosive.

I sure hope you cannooks know what you are doin..
 

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The 5000 sq. mile difference in area that Oregon has over England, does not make them the same.

This thread is beyond useless.

You don't hate Canada, but Canada sucks. Brilliant.
 

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mdvaldosta said:
Unlocked. Carry on your debate like grown-ups now.

That's funny, because whenever somebody posts something that Tony doesn't agree with, he doesn't act like a grown up in the slightest.

tonytroll said:
It just goes to prove how very little about this subject you understand.

Did I make that simple enough for you to understand?

You allow him to personally insult me, Joe? This thread was nothing more than how he thinks Canada sucks for doing something he doesn't agree with.

That's the kind of 'grown-up' debate you want to allow to go on?

haha He's already insulted OUZ and I, I don't know why you unlocked this steaming pile of crap.
 

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Because we don't like to practice censorship. I read the thread, and the only thing I saw was two people disagreeing about a topic. One person selfishly locked the thread and the other acted like a moron and whored up other threads.

This is a forum section with alot of debate going on, either you can handle it or you can't. A thread simply isn't going to get censored or locked simply because two people disagree. Doing so goes against the ideals of OTz.

As for this thread being stupid, I found it rather enjoyable up to the second page.
 

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ha, 2000si lost! and dont jump on my ass now, remember james, i'm an immature prep gay dude who smokes weed with his moronic brother on a thursday night while eating burritos and watching chapelles show along with sitting in a chatroom. i'm clean
 

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ha, 2000si lost! and dont jump on my ass now, remember james, i'm an immature prep gay dude who smokes weed with his moronic brother on a thursday night while eating burritos and watching chapelles show along with sitting in a chatroom. i'm clean

lmao
 

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Hurt911gen said:
ha, 2000si lost! and dont jump on my ass now, remember james, i'm an immature prep gay dude who smokes weed with his moronic brother on a thursday night while eating burritos and watching chapelles show along with sitting in a chatroom. i'm clean

Was that necessary? No, I dont think so
 
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