Calif. May Release 20,000 Inmates

[Peter Parka]

What will happen to the job market when 20,000 people surge into it? They will be required to find/obtain jobs shorlty after release .. just because they are out doesn't mean they are "free" they will still be on Parole for the remainder of their terms.



Um perhaps themnot getting punished for their crimes and the people who they offended to get put there not feeling completely compensated .. in their lack of punishment.

How would you feel if a person robbed your house (pretend you own it), took all your belongings, any money you had in the house, your fridge full of beer, stole your checks and cleaned your bank account, trashed your digs and left you with a huge repair bill, took your wifes personal things ... then didn't have to serve their full term?

Would you feel a tad angry about that, or just shrug it off?

There are other cheaper and more beneficial ways of punishing someone than prison, community service for instance. I seriously doubt though that someone in the circumstance you mentioned would be released though if you look at what the original post was saying.

 

[NuckingFuts]

I really don't see the harm in it. There's really no sense in keeping the little fish in the fishbowl.

no, I don't like to do that. I simply think that minor crimes should be reviewed and if its seen that the sentence is unnecessary, early leave should be an option.

Unjust laws should be broken at every second's chance.

Why do people assume that just because it is a law, means its right or should be followed? That kind of obedience is dangerous.

Well, if a law is WITHIN REASON "stupid", then it is totally nonsensical. To me, that makes it unjust. That is, if the majority see it as that.

See this is all comming from the same guy who thinks that we should just waste our tax dollars on keeping murderers in prison. Giving them 3 meals a day, and all the other stuff that good upstanding citizens deserve. In stead of executing them.:wtf:

 

[SouthOfHeaven]

See this is all comming from the same guy who thinks that we should just waste our tax dollars on keeping murderers in prison. Giving them 3 meals a day, and all the other stuff that good upstanding citizens deserve. In stead of executing them.:wtf:

well put! :homo:

 

[SRC]

There are other cheaper and more beneficial ways of punishing someone than prison, community service for instance. I seriously doubt though that someone in the circumstance you mentioned would be released though if you look at what the original post was saying.

In order to give 20,000 people community service jobs would mean they would have to be given jobs that already have people working them .. who are being paid to do them .. are they supposed to just "create" more jobs that aren't really needed (otherwise there would already be a job position) for them or fire the other people to make room for them? And they'll have to be supervised during such jobs, so that would mean either they would have to take police off the streets to do so, or hire more police.

Actually these are the people .. they are the "non-violent" offenders. They hurt no one in their robbing. Caused no human being physical harm in the process of causing them emotional, mental, and financial harm, however. The law doesn't punish individuals for or take those issues into consideration though .. to be compensated for those issues one must file a suit against their offender.

The other non-violent offenders that would be released are drug dealers.

People who are in jail are there because they are dregs of society .. they belong there. Most (most) are usually repeat offenders .. having been put on probation several times before fially ending up in jail for long stints of time. You normally don't get a large term for your first non-violent offense, and having 20 months LEFT on your term .. means you were probably serving a decent sized term.

Non-violent or not, they (most of them) are just not good people. They do not know how to function "normally" in society.

I personally just don't see it as being a very good idea.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I vote for forced labor.

Put them to work in agriculture for the duration of their time. Charge the employers the same wages they are used to paying for illegal labor, and use that money to run the program.

Done and done.

**Straps on K-pot and constructs a hasty bunker out of couch pillows in wait for Peter and AEF**

 

[All Else Failed]

See this is all comming from the same guy who thinks that we should just waste our tax dollars on keeping murderers in prison. Giving them 3 meals a day, and all the other stuff that good upstanding citizens deserve. In stead of executing them.:wtf:

who said I'm against giving citizens that need such things? I'm a damn socialist for fuck's sake! :24:

 

[All Else Failed]

I vote for forced labor.

Put them to work in agriculture for the duration of their time. Charge the employers the same wages they are used to paying for illegal labor, and use that money to run the program.

Done and done.

**Straps on K-pot and constructs a hasty bunker out of couch pillows in wait for Peter and AEF**

I actually agree with that, believe it or not.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I agree with Intruder as well, actually that is what prison should be for all of them, labor, working to pay back the debt to society.

If a 7 year old in China can make a pair of Nikes, then some hillbilly rapist can certainly do something to maximize our tax dollars, rather than sitting in a cell watching tv and making shanks out of dead cock-roaches.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I agree with Intruder as well, actually that is what prison should be for all of them, labor, working to pay back the debt to society.

If a 7 year old in China can make a pair of Nikes, then some hillbilly rapist can certainly do something to maximize our tax dollars, rather than sitting in a cell watching tv and making shanks out of dead cock-roaches.

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

You typed the words right out of my mouth Bad Boy.

Our justice systems needs to enforce true retribution. If you have to ask what I mean by true retribution, just stop reading my post right here.

Criminals imo must be required to pay true retribution back to society and the ones they have done wrong.

Passing time in jail cell is not retribution. True retribution is part of rehabilitation and will help to heal society . . . and the criminal if they have any redeeming qualities to them.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I actually agree with that, believe it or not.

What'd you do with RON?!?!?!

 

[All Else Failed]

What'd you do with RON?!?!?!

I am Ron MK.II. Now with even more left wing rhetoric!


but really, I don't see the harm in using such a massive population of people doing nothing to do at least something to repay society. Clean parks, help build small buildings etc etc etc.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I am Ron MK.II. Now with even more left wing rhetoric!


but really, I don't see the harm in using such a massive population of people doing nothing to do at least something to repay society. Clean parks, help build small buildings etc etc etc.

Hmmm... Indeed. Well, as much as I like the Mk II, I think there is a crossed wire someplace. This is a concervative POV as far as I can tell. :eek

 

[All Else Failed]

Hmmm... Indeed. Well, as much as I like the Mk II, I think there is a crossed wire someplace. This is a concervative POV as far as I can tell. :eek

Really? Hows that?

 

[IntruderLS1]

Really? Hows that?

We're 'forcing' people to make good on their past 'evils.' We're talking about rehabilitation through hard work, and the displacement of possibly thousands of illegal workers from our homeland... Not traditional front runner thinking for the modern liberal.

Props for agreeing though. I think that is a wonderful sign of hope for you my little pinko friend!!

LOL Oh yeah, and I thought you would like to know. I was talking about you with my wife earlier this evening. We're now both praying for you. :willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

 

[All Else Failed]

We're 'forcing' people to make good on their past 'evils.' We're talking about rehabilitation through hard work, and the displacement of possibly thousands of illegal workers from our homeland... Not traditional front runner thinking for the modern liberal.

Props for agreeing though. I think that is a wonderful sign of hope for you my little pinko friend!!

LOL Oh yeah, and I thought you would like to know. I was talking about you with my wife earlier this evening. We're now both praying for you. :willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

Well, I do see it as PART of the rehabilitation process. And i don't even think it would put a dent in illegals working in the US. Oh and don't worry, I don't see this as a conservative standpoint in the slightest.


Pray for me all you want, it will do nothing.