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did anyone catch it on video? It's a widely held belief that the celebrations filmed in the Middle East were either faked, or used from another celebration of some kind. The Muslim world has generally condemned the 9/11 attacks and especially the US Muslims.
There used to be amateur videos of this online but I have looked all night for them and some links that I found on forums have been disabled and nothing comes up in the search engine. You can ask almost any New Yorker that was of age at that time and they will tell you the same things as me and what I saw in my neighborhood. Most New Yorkers heard about this happening if they weren't actual eyewitnesses. There were a lot of pissed off people against the Muslims at that time.
I've tried to find something concrete regarding Muslim celebrations on that day and I haven't been able to do it. I'm sure some of the more radical types did celebrate though. It just makes sense.
I even searched the 9/11 archives on sites and news coverage that hasn't been seen by the public and can't find any news station that captured the ones who were doing it on video. Remember that back then I don't think cell phones had cameras like they do now so people weren't able to record like they do today. And there were quite a few people that were doing it where I lived. I wasn't in Manhattan I was in The Bronx when I saw this. The Muslims in Manhattan were as devastated as the Americans because many of their friends and families were lost in the attack.

It was a very tense time for New York Muslims back then. They were trying so hard to let America know that they were just as much victims as we were. There was a video that I can probably find where they did arrest 5 Israelis dressed as Arabs and I think they were charged with some charges of conspiracy because they were seen dancing and doing other things because they were under surveillance when it happened. i don't remember what the outcome was of that though...
 
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Here is the video that I was talking about. There's still lots of controversy all over the internet about what really happened that day...This was the only thing I could find after searching for hours. Now there are videos of all the happy people in other countries dancing around floating around on youtube and the net...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATYM-CMPtxY
 

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Here is the video that I was talking about. There's still lots of controversy all over the internet about what really happened that day...This was the only thing I could find after searching for hours. Now there are videos of all the happy people in other countries dancing around floating around on youtube and the net...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATYM-CMPtxY

I could only find that video too. They were investigated for having a connection to the 9/11 event if I remember rightly.

But if there were Muslims cheering in the streets on 9/11 in NY, and I've heard people claim Chicago too, surely someone would have it on video and YouTube? Or at least have written about it?
 

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But if there were Muslims cheering in the streets on 9/11 in NY, and I've heard people claim Chicago too, surely someone would have it on video and YouTube? Or at least have written about it?
My opinion? Is a cover up of it happening if anyone did write about it. But I believe in conspiracies. That's just me. Like I said I did find a couple of forums that had links to videos of this happening but the links were disabled and I spent the whole entire evening researching this so I could show Tim and am not sure what forums I found those on. If I have to I will spend the day looking for those forums so that you can see the disabled links for yourselves. :willy_nilly:
 

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I say it's complete and total bullshit because New Yorkers wouldn't stand for that for one second. There would have been blood running in the streets.

And it still boggles my mind when people associate 9/11 with Muslims and the Islamic faith. Wake up and learn the truth/facts. It was carried out by a very small group of Wahhabiests, this is the ultra conservative sect of Islam that even believe that Sunni and Shi'a Muslims (which make up the vast majority of Muslims worldwide) are Infidels.
Holding Muslims in contempt for 9/11 is just as ignorant as holding Christians in contempt for 1800 people killed by the IRA or the Christians that bomb abortion clinics or for the Crusades or any of the other atrocities carried out in the name of Christianity. To associate any religion with those who commit atrocities in the name of that religion is idiotic at best.
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. To associate any religion with those who commit atrocities in the name of that religion is idiotic at best.
yes but it is so easy to do, the voice of reason is drowned out by the screams of panic
 

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yes but it is so easy to do, the voice of reason is drowned out by the screams of panic

Exactly my point. We have way too many idiots in this country that will buy the 30 second sound bite hook line and sinker without ever letting critical thought enter into the picture.

If anyone would consider looking into the facts they would see that they are sheep being lead by the media.

Here's something to think about. For those of you that watch Fox news... Did you know that the 9/11 terrorists were connected and funded by the Saudi's? Did you know that most of the radical Imams are financed by the Saudis? Did you know that the second largest share holder in News Corporation ie Fox news is Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia? And you think your news is fair an balanced? :24:
 

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Tim said:
I say it's complete and total bullshit because New Yorkers wouldn't stand for that for one second. There would have been blood running in the streets.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with this statement. Muslims seem to be more hostile than Americans. I don't see any New Yorkers Kicking this giuys ass and New Yorkers are very proud to be Americans!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B1FHeIP53Q&feature=related
 

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The is a huge difference in this demonstration and dancing in the streets of NY while thousands of people were dying.

I thought you said you personally witnessed this going on. Yet not a singe news agency or network covered this?

And then you went further to say that we should ship the whole lot of them back... let me ask you, does that include the Muslims that are currently serving in the armed services?
 

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The is a huge difference in this demonstration and dancing in the streets of NY while thousands of people were dying.
Tim I think that you are under the misconception that all New Yorkers are mean when they're not. When I first moved there I was lost and many New Yorkers gave me directions and helped me out a lot and they were complete strangers. The only reason I posted this video is to show you that they are not all crazy loons.

I thought you said you personally witnessed this going on. Yet not a singe news agency or network covered this?
I witnessed the attack from 2 miles away maybe a little bit more. Everyone was crying including the Muslims. They lost a lot of their own in the 911 attack too. And there was a lot of animosity toward them for some time. It started to die down until they decided that they want to put a Mosque at Ground Zero. Personally I don't think one should be there. My feelings is that it should be a huge Memorial. There are so many other places they can put a Mosque.

And then you went further to say that we should ship the whole lot of them back... let me ask you, does that include the Muslims that are currently serving in the armed services?
By the whole lot I really meant the Muslims that are there beheading their wives cuz the Kora(?) tells them to. And the ones who are killing their own children because they are becoming too westernized. Just because they go on Facebook and use cell phones and such. That's what's going on there.
 

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i can fully understand seeing images of peole in Palestine celebrating after 9/11, not condone, understand

i cannot understand why anyone on US soil would have done same, i actually think if anyone has seen footage of what they believe to have been celebrations on US soil then they are being duped
if however anyone saw this first hand, i stand corrected
 

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Were you in the Bronx when the attacks happened? Or were you in Manhattan when it happened, then went to the Bronx later that day and saw Muslims dancing in the street?
Manhattan when it happened then when I drove home to The Bronx that's where I saw the Muslims celebrating.
 

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I drove home to The Bronx that's where I saw the Muslims celebrating.
so I stand corrected, amazes me that anyone would be so stupid, to openly celebrate tragedy (anywhere not just The Bronx) on the doorstep of the victims is asking for trouble
 

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Oh i did find out that a tape was released through the media of Palestinians dancing in the streets which I looked it up on Snopes and it was actually a video from another country. I don't remember where it was filmed right now. I am tired cuz i was up all night trying to find video and articles to back up what I saw at home.
 

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Manhattan when it happened then when I drove home to The Bronx that's where I saw the Muslims celebrating.

Wow, that drive must have taken forever, I imagine a lot of people were trying to get out of the city that day.
 

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Wow, that drive must have taken forever, I imagine a lot of people were trying to get out of the city that day.
I didn't get home till almost morning! But didn't have to go to work the next day...It was total chaos. You could see the air just filled with gray dust like. Visibility was at a minimum and it was grid iron bumper to bumper the whole way. I could normally make that ride in an hour to an hour and a half depending on traffic. Well this took all night to get home. The sun hadn't risen yet but I remember it was close to that time. And everyone was out in the streets.
 

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Wow, that drive must have taken forever, I imagine a lot of people were trying to get out of the city that day.
i remember tv coverage of people walking, possibly thousands of people walking accross the bridges
 
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