not at all!
Freedom has many faces: freedom in the jungle and freedom in a cage!
If it is not a religious state then it's a secular state. India is secular and democratic (largest democracy in the world) yet the Hindu predominantly influences its politics by Hindu religion.
Some Muslims countries are declared Islamic Republics and such argument against their being religious is
not right nor warranted.
It is not dark ages but poverty or power which matters in those places.
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Make a trip to maritime countries like Bangla Desh and you will find every man swimming in the nude or with the underwear and every woman expert at swimming in her daily dress in any waters!!
Burqa Controversy brews up in Australia.
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Well there you go...I honestly didnt know that...and didnt think there would be. Thanks for the info.
Only in certain circumstances, and the husband must agree in nearly every case, depending on the fiqh.
That's alright, you are welcome!
Travel is the secret to knowing other people and their cultures!!
there is NO restriction on women in getting divorce.....but those reasons ought to be plausible such as infidelity,
inability to have sex, madness, cruelty, inability to maintain wife and kids, etc etc
However, there is also express stipulate in the marriage contract wherein the wife is given the absolute right
to divorce her husband at any time without recourse to law or intervention of court!!
i don't think the West gives a better right to its women??
So long as they don't "blaspheme" the Qur'an anyway. I'm also sure that the Christians there aren't ever discriminated against, persecuted, prosecuted, or outright killed? Right? Oh wait.....
You're also forgetting about Saudi Arabia, which is an Islamic state that practices Wahhabism and restricts all other religions. I'm sure there are lots of Christian churches in a country where possession of religious items like the Bible or crosses are illegal. Oh, and where Christians are arrested and lashed in public for practicing their faith openly.
Really tolerant.
In order to do so, she has to give back everything her husband has given her. That's from the Sahih al-Bukhari.
blasphemy is culpable at law and some countries have strict punishments for that...be it a Muslim, a Christian or anybody else. Even if a Muslim commits blasphemy he is taken on by other Muslims...and that doesn't smack of good omen to the blasphemer!!
As I said in my previous posts above, Kingdoms are an exception to the rule. The Kings and Sultans make their own rules and enforce their own version/interpretation of religious commands. Saudia may be an Islamic state but not a democratic republic....as such the rights and duties are governed by the King or the Sultans who are unsparing to anyone if he breaks the law!
No Christian is arrested or lashed in public in any Muslim country!! Even in Saudia and the Emirates justice and punishments are the same for Muslims and non-Muslims....just as in the USA or UK, etc.
I have no idea about which tradition you are referring to from Bukhari...could you please let me know??
According to Quran a husband is forbidden to take back even a single hair-pin from his wife if he divorces her
notwithstanding the fact that he had given her a billion dollars during marriage! Taking back anything from a wife at divorce is regarded as great sin by the Quran .....and if somebody doesn't comply with that Law he is simply trespassing the Quranic limits...
The burqa battle Down Under
The debate over the controversial garment is raging in Australia, and it reveals some surprising common ground
''[T]o use freedom of choice as a justification, then we are also accepting of women who undress out of this same freedom of choice, and we can never do this as Muslim women. We dress like this because it is the command of Allah, not any man.''
"the Western secular way of life, which robs a woman of her dignity, honor and respect, where she is considered little more than a commodity to be bought and sold, or the option of Islam, where a woman's dignity, respect and honor are priceless."
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/index.html?story=/mwt/broadsheet/2010/09/20/australia_burqa&source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%2520Newsletter%2520%2528Not%2520Premium%2529_7_30_110
all this coming from a religion where the woman is second class,where its stronghold is the middle east where slavery is still common
the way a woman can be respected is to give her rights,the same rights as men...how respectful is it to a woman if the husband has 3 other wives?
haha!! taking more than 3 wives at a time is a prima facie proof how deeply Muslims love women!!
Why take just one wife?? Who has made this law?? Why? Where does the Bible or Torah forbid it??Didn't prophets have more than one wife and lotsa concubines??
If you think that destroys 'equality' then let women too go for more than one husband..multiple husband---.rather than indulge in sexual frivolities! If that's not Law why this should be the Law unless there is a concrete reason to justify or nullify it!
There is NO slavery in the Middle East.....a Muslim is forbidden to take another Muslim as a slave, be it a man or a woman!! You better update your knowledge ....
A Muslim wife is as good as stated in the Bible, no more no less!! she is the Queen of her house!!
Well there's a word that has no place in the modern world.
haha!! taking more than 3 wives at a time is a prima facie proof how deeply Muslims love women!!
Why take just one wife?? Who has made this law?? Why? Where does the Bible or Torah forbid it??Didn't prophets have more than one wife and lotsa concubines??
If you think that destroys 'equality' then let women too go for more than one husband..multiple husband---.rather than indulge in sexual frivolities! If that's not Law why this should be the Law unless there is a concrete reason to justify or nullify it!
There is NO slavery in the Middle East.....a Muslim is forbidden to take another Muslim as a slave, be it a man or a woman!! You better update your knowledge ....
A Muslim wife is as good as stated in the Bible, no more no less!! she is the Queen of her house!!
look.....i know more than you realise about islam,i know how the 4 wife thing came about,and a woman having sex with more than one man would be stoned in most muslim countries,so she cant take more than one husband
and i didn't say muslims were taking muslims as slaves....i said slavery was still common,a harem is a form of slavery,sexual slavery...and its there,especially in the islamic stronghold of saudi
your trying to brainwash the unbrainwashable here
You stated, "in every Muslim country", which includes Saudi Arabia. As I stated above, Saudi Arabia prohibits the practice of any religion but Islam, and there are severe punishments for violating that law. Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.
Christians are regularly discriminated against in Muslim countries... like Pakistan and Egypt.
In Egypt the government enforces Hamayouni Decree restrictions on building or repairing churches. These same restrictions, however, do not apply to mosques. Christians are prohibited from having senior government, diplomatic, military, and educational positions. There is also a separate tax-funded education system called Al Azhar, which no non-Muslim is allowed to be a part of.
Lets compare that with "western" countries... which allow the free expression and practice of religion without fear of punishment for "blaspheming" a specific religion's holy book. Where people have the same opportunities afforded to them no matter their religious beliefs, or lack thereof.
You're basically saying that Christians (and other religions) are allowed to be in Muslim countries, as long as they don't practice anything that disagrees with Islam. That is the very definition of intolerance.
"Would you give him his garden (the marriage gift he had given her) back?" she said: "Yes". The Prophet then instructed the man to take back his garden and accept the dissolution of the marriage"
Wait a second, I'm confused here. You had an issue with a woman having multiple husbands in this thread
http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread.php?t=66374
You said that it would be encouraging orgies, which would be a bad thing for society in your estimation.
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