Big families?

[Goat Whisperer]

Large families strengthen the economy as well as the soul. The greatest economic crisis facing the United States and most industrialized nations is that we have too few large, stable families rather than too many of them. As populations age, live detached lives and live longer (while fewer children are born to work, care for their own and pay taxes), economies decline, crime and social problems increase, and governments cannot fund their welfare entitlements, which in this country are the black holes of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

That isn't nessarily the biggest problem, I think that not having enough supplies for everyone to live off of is a bigger one.

An added benefit is large families generally provide a sophisticated extended family network, where children have access to many positive role models. One-child societies do not have aunts and uncles, nieces and nephews, brothers and sisters. Children excel in school when supported by parents, older siblings, grandparents and aunts and uncles who are experts in their respective fields. Extended family members also provide work and career opportunities. Many extended families are so skilled and organized that they can effectively home-school their young, providing additional savings to the taxpayer.

You could have the same network with 5 kids, that you would have with 20.

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I think families like the Duggars and the Gosselins are just fine, even if they do have a lot of children. I don't think the issue is the number of children in a family. I think it's about how those families functions and how they effect one another. Small families can be worse for the economy because they can be unproductive, so it can't just be assumed that large families alone are unproductive. I think having a lot of children and not being a good parent/ role model is a bigger issue- take Nadya Sulman for example. Those kids will never have a good chance in life, in my opinion. And just to throw it out there- I think the Duggars and Gosselins are gerat examples of how family should be- they love and support one another. The one family I wish wasn't on tv is the family from Little People Big World. If that was my family, or home, I wouldn't want people to see it. And they only have 4 kids.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

You know what, i didn't make this thread to be yelled at by every single person on the forum at the same time and not be listened to. I'm done here.

 

[Jersey]

You posted a topic in philosophy and debate... what did you want out of it? tumble weeds and crickets?

 

[AnitaBeer]

I find it rediculous you can't handle the opinions of others. Why even bother when you always end up getting upset about peoples responses.

 

[Sneakiecat]

You know what, i didn't make this thread to be yelled at by every single person on the forum at the same time and not be listened to. I'm done here.

I don't think anyone is yelling at you. But listening goes both ways.

 

[Sneakiecat]

You posted a topic in philosophy and debate... what did you want out of it? tumble weeds and crickets?

Can we have cowboys with the tumbleweeds? Pleeeeeeeeeeeease?

 

[HottyToddyChick]

You posted a topic in philosophy and debate... what did you want out of it? tumble weeds and crickets?

I find it rediculous you can't handle the opinions of others. Why even bother when you always end up getting upset about peoples responses.

I agree. You can't ask a question and then expect no response. :dunno:

 

[Goat Whisperer]

One last thing tho

The one family I wish wasn't on tv is the family from Little People Big World. If that was my family, or home, I wouldn't want people to see it. And they only have 4 kids.

All that show is about is rich people that are shorter then normal, every episode goes like this:

O no, I am to short to this, because of this problem.

Pays to have the problem fixed.

Ya, I can do it now.

End of story. All you watch is rich people with problems that pay for them to be fixed. lol

 

[Jersey]

LOL you can't say you're out and have "one last thing"

:24:

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I think they are very dysfunctional family, and I would be ashamed to show the world my family if it was like that. And their home is usually messy.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I agree. You can't ask a question and then expect no response. :dunno:

I ask a question, I get responses, I respond to those responses, every says that my response is wrong for no reason (none of you ever explained why your families don't effect the amount of supplies we have available for aid), then even if I end up an another side everyone continues to yell at me.

Seems to me you just want someone to get mad at at the same time, not to have any sort of discussion or coversation on a topic. We don't HAVE to argue about everything you know...

 

[Goat Whisperer]

LOL you can't say you're out and have "one last thing"

:24:

I can too it was on a different subject!

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I'm pretty sure I was just voicing my opinion on the topic you presented. Not sure I attacked you or said you were "wrong" in any way?

 

[Sneakiecat]

(none of you ever explained why your families don't effect the amount of supplies we have available for aid)

Um.....

But your example doesn't make sense. My family eating enough for ten people has no effect on aid that gets sent oversea. Food that we send overseas is surplus to begin with and not leftovers that have been hanging around grocery stores and food banks.

I post an explanation but didn't get a response.

 

[Sneakiecat]

I think they are very dysfunctional family, and I would be ashamed to show the world my family if it was like that. And their home is usually messy.

I typically have a messy house but I would like to think that mine is nowhere near that bad. And that I would clean up before a camera crew comes over.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I post an explanation but didn't get a response.

That wasn't and explanation, it was you stating that your family didn't effect the amount of supplies we have for our food bank and aid for the rest of the world.

I clearly explained why:

If families take more food from the store, less is donated to the food bank, and less is donated to people in other countries.

And then you just kind of ignored it and said I never made an explanation myself.

You had a statement, I had an explanation, an explanation you all ignored, which is really really annoying.

 

[HottyToddyChick]

Yeah, mine isn't camera ready right now, but I would sure clean it and then I wouldn't be so angry all the time and fight with everyone. All their children are old enough to know how to act when company is around. And you are kinda doing it on your own right now. No one could expect your house to be perfect 24/7. But with four kids old enough to do chores? They really don't have an excuse.

I will tell you, though- I think the way the Duggars function is just amazing. I'd lose my mind.

 

[Sneakiecat]

That wasn't and explanation, it was you stating that your family didn't effect the amount of supplies we have for our food bank and aid for the rest of the world.

I clearly explained why:



And then you just kind of ignored it and said I never made an explanation myself.

You had a statement, I had an explanation, an explanation you all ignored, which is really really annoying.

Did you even read the second part of my statement? I pointed out that food that is sent overseas is not from grocery store but surplus (like grain) that never makes it there. So to say that I ignored your explanation when you ignored mine is also really really annoying.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Did you even read the second part of my statement? I pointed out that food that is sent overseas is not from grocery store but surplus (like grain) that never makes it there. So to say that I ignored your explanation when you ignored mine is also really really annoying.

Where do you think the surplus comes from? Not enough demand.Why isn't there enough demand to send it to the stores? Because no one is buying it. Why don't people buy it? Because they don't need it. Why don't they need it? Because they don't have large families.