American capitalism gone with a whimper

[MoonOwl]

hehehehehehehehehehe.....well ok then.... If that's your opinion, stick to it.

 

[Alien Allen]

yeah and now we are gonna get a pay czar to over see payments to the companies that got bailouts.

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration plans to appoint a "Special Master for Compensation" to ensure that companies receiving federal bailout funds are abiding by executive-pay guidelines, according to people familiar with the matter.

Just what the fuck is wrong with this god damn moron Obama. How many of these czars is he going to appoint and at what cost. I guess somebody forgot to tell him there is an IRS that can track pay eh? what an idiot you all elected and we just get to keep paying.

 

[Accountable]

The only difference between parties is the dressings they show to distract and divide us from just exactly what they are up to. W/vote fraud in the bag there is no real reason for any of them to listen to us. Only those they've sold out to. After all, they view all of us as UsefulIdiots. Can you blame them?

Hehehe. I knew there was something about you I liked. :thumbup

 

[KpAtch3s]

This whole ball was started under a Republican administration. Well, some w/Clinton & DaddyBush, but we sure didn't see the Republicans put on the brakes did we?

Everyone loves to push the blame onto the Republican party (or namely Bush) because they/he didn't do anything to reverse Clinton's doings. Bush makes a great escape goat for those that don't want to admit that their liberal policies/president from over 8 years ago caused this entire mess. Republicans lack of reversing these changes does not mean they are the cause of this mess!

 

[Dana]

you're damned if you do and damed if you don't...

 

[MoonOwl]

Hehehe. I knew there was something about you I liked. :thumbup

Finding olde, tired & cynical appealing are you?

Everyone loves to push the blame onto the Republican party (or namely Bush) because they/he didn't do anything to reverse Clinton's doings. Bush makes a great escape goat for those that don't want to admit that their liberal policies/president from over 8 years ago caused this entire mess. Republicans lack of reversing these changes does not mean they are the cause of this mess!

I didn't mean to just stop at DaddyBush. It goes further back than that. Many decades. Even Lincoln was quoted warning about the corporations and bankers and the decimation of 'democracy'.. This has been going on slowly. Bit by bit. Decade by decade. Slow enough so that we sheeps don't really notice much. As I said above, we're happily distracted by manufactured distractions and putting food on our tables. They count on that. But, I'm olde, tired and cynical and wtf do I know? Squat!:cool

MO

 

[KpAtch3s]

Finding olde, tired & cynical appealing are you?





I didn't mean to just stop at DaddyBush. It goes further back than that. Many decades. Even Lincoln was quoted warning about the corporations and bankers and the decimation of 'democracy'.. This has been going on slowly. Bit by bit. Decade by decade. Slow enough so that we sheeps don't really notice much. As I said above, we're happily distracted by manufactured distractions and putting food on our tables. They count on that. But, I'm olde, tired and cynical and wtf do I know? Squat!:cool

MO

Here is the quote for reference:

I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to
tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of
corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will
endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until
the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. - Abraham Lincoln

I disagree with him and you. The only way the wealth becomes aggregated to the few is by destroying the middle class. We have a very wealthy middle class, which I believe is being destroyed by liberal policies and social programs. While I agree the entirety of our problem extends beyond the last 16 years, I think they begin with Franklin D. Roosevelt and his implementation of SS and all things that go with it, not to mention a lot of other issues that happened after that. If I had a time machine and could change things, that is the time period I would begin with.

Sadly, that is not possible and blaming problems on past times and people doesn't fix anything. We need address the situation and present. Hopefully we'll have a true conservative administration after Obama that can fix this mess properly.(i.e. dismantle Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac, return GM to a private corporation, etc)

 

[Alien Allen]

Here is the quote for reference:



I disagree with him and you. The only way the wealth becomes aggregated to the few is by destroying the middle class. We have a very wealthy middle class, which I believe is being destroyed by liberal policies and social programs. While I agree the entirety of our problem extends beyond the last 16 years, I think they begin with Franklin D. Roosevelt and his implementation of SS and all things that go with it, not to mention a lot of other issues that happened after that. If I had a time machine and could change things, that is the time period I would begin with.

Sadly, that is not possible and blaming problems on past times and people doesn't fix anything. We need address the situation and present. Hopefully we'll have a true conservative administration after Obama that can fix this mess properly.(i.e. dismantle Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac, return GM to a private corporation, etc)

With every crisis there is an opportunity to do what otherwise could not be imagined. It happened with FDR and his flock bought into it. Unless the republicans or somebody else comes up with a leader to fight this bull shit we are in for a lot more of the same. And eventually the house of cards will collapse..

I don't see any such leader on the conservative side do you??

 

[KpAtch3s]

With every crisis there is an opportunity to do what otherwise could not be imagined. It happened with FDR and his flock bought into it. Unless the republicans or somebody else comes up with a leader to fight this bull shit we are in for a lot more of the same. And eventually the house of cards will collapse..

I don't see any such leader on the conservative side do you??

No I certainly don't I am hoping there is one hiding in the wood working somewhere. It would take more than just a conservative president as well, we would need both the house and senate with a Republican party that has returned to its core principals.

 

[Alien Allen]

No I certainly don't I am hoping there is one hiding in the wood working somewhere. It would take more than just a conservative president as well, we would need both the house and senate with a Republican party that has returned to its core principals.

I do not want a govt run by one party. It never works

Congress is lost for now. There is no leadership there

Which is ok in a way. As long as a conservative is elected president next time and the guy has the charisma to use the bully pulpit.

We need a Ron Paul type with charisma

We just had a FDR/LBJ with charisma elected and you can see where that has us headed

 

[MoonOwl]

I disagree with him and you. The only way the wealth becomes aggregated to the few is by destroying the middle class. We have a very wealthy middle class, which I believe is being destroyed by liberal policies and social programs. While I agree the entirety of our problem extends beyond the last 16 years, I think they begin with Franklin D. Roosevelt and his implementation of SS and all things that go with it, not to mention a lot of other issues that happened after that. If I had a time machine and could change things, that is the time period I would begin with.

Sadly, that is not possible and blaming problems on past times and people doesn't fix anything. We need address the situation and present. Hopefully we'll have a true conservative administration after Obama that can fix this mess properly.(i.e. dismantle Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac, return GM to a private corporation, etc)

KpAtch3s, thank you for taking the time to find Abe's full quote. Don't forget the Federal Reserve when looking for things to blame. Going off the Gold standard in the early 70's is another.

You've said above you disagree with me. I don't mind if you disagree with me. I just stated my opinions.

You've also said a few posts above that I provide a weak argument. I'm not here to argue my opinions.

I gave up arguing with conservatives when they didn't get behind Ron Paul en masse. As Alien Allen says below, he didn't have charisma. I respectfully disagree. His message changed this lifelong, pro-choice, dem into a rep so I could vote for him in my primary. Because he was about putting WePeeps 1st, 2nd & 3rd in priority. When I saw conservatives didn't get behind him 100% I said fuck getting heartburn and retired from shill slaying. But sometimes I can't resist beating the dead horse that is politics and will throw my opinions out there. But I'm a PeaBrain, so wtf do I know?.
:horse:horse:horse:horse:horse

 

[Alien Allen]

KpAtch3s, thank you for taking the time to find Abe's full quote. Don't forget the Federal Reserve when looking for things to blame. Going off the Gold standard in the early 70's is another.

You've said above you disagree with me. I don't mind if you disagree with me. I just stated my opinions.

You've also said a few posts above that I provide a weak argument. I'm not here to argue my opinions.

I gave up arguing with conservatives when they didn't get behind Ron Paul en masse. As Alien Allen says below, he didn't have charisma. I respectfully disagree. His message changed this lifelong, pro-choice, dem into a rep so I could vote for him in my primary. Because he was about putting WePeeps 1st, 2nd & 3rd in priority. When I saw conservatives didn't get behind him 100% I said fuck getting heartburn and retired from shill slaying. But sometimes I can't resist beating the dead horse that is politics and will throw my opinions out there. But I'm a PeaBrain, so wtf do I know?.
:horse:horse:horse:horse:horse

I am glad he made you think but as far as the masses he was considered a nut. They painted him as an angry old man and it worked.

If you put even a Mitt Romney with the same message Obama would have been toast.

There are only so many opportunities for such change as what Paul proposed. That time has now passed.

 

[MoonOwl]

I am glad he made you think but as far as the masses he was considered a nut. They painted him as an angry old man and it worked.

If you put even a Mitt Romney with the same message Obama would have been toast.

There are only so many opportunities for such change as what Paul proposed. That time has now passed.

He was considered a nut because the corporate media en masse painted him as one. It was only after he had no chance of winning did they start to fawn all over him.

 

[KpAtch3s]

KpAtch3s, thank you for taking the time to find Abe's full quote. Don't forget the Federal Reserve when looking for things to blame. Going off the Gold standard in the early 70's is another.

You've said above you disagree with me. I don't mind if you disagree with me. I just stated my opinions.

You've also said a few posts above that I provide a weak argument. I'm not here to argue my opinions.

I gave up arguing with conservatives when they didn't get behind Ron Paul en masse. As Alien Allen says below, he didn't have charisma. I respectfully disagree. His message changed this lifelong, pro-choice, dem into a rep so I could vote for him in my primary. Because he was about putting WePeeps 1st, 2nd & 3rd in priority. When I saw conservatives didn't get behind him 100% I said fuck getting heartburn and retired from shill slaying. But sometimes I can't resist beating the dead horse that is politics and will throw my opinions out there. But I'm a PeaBrain, so wtf do I know?.
:horse:horse:horse:horse:horse

I don't understand what you mean by WePeeps. I've googled it and searched for it on urban dictionary, but no luck. Perhaps you can show me what you mean?

As far as Republicans not getting behind Ron Paul, well he is a Libertarian running on the Republican ticket to get some air time and be in the debates. Most conservatives did not support him because of his stance on the situation in the middle east a few other issues.

Appreciate you providing your input even if you aren't here to debate them.

 

[Accountable]

I'm pretty sure he means We the People when he writes WePeeps.
You guys get in the best conversations when I'm gone, dammit! I have half a mind to give one of you my cell number so you can call me when one of these get started. Of course, the other half reminds me that my Other Half would kick my ass.

Ron Paul's biggest barrier was his own voice. He sounds like he's whining. It keeps alot of people from listening to what he's saying.

 

[MoonOwl]

I'm pretty sure he means We the People when he writes WePeeps.
You guys get in the best conversations when I'm gone, dammit! I have half a mind to give one of you my cell number so you can call me when one of these get started. Of course, the other half reminds me that my Other Half would kick my ass.

Ron Paul's biggest barrier was his own voice. He sounds like he's whining. It keeps alot of people from listening to what he's saying.

Yep, WePeeps = WeThePeople.... Excuse my slang.

obtw, I'm a She. Not a He.

I also admit Ron did sound whiny at times. Perhaps that's cuz he saw the road ahead:willy_nilly:

His son Rand is thinking about entering politics. Perhaps he should. Another thing I was worried about w/Ron was his age.

Ron's book "Revolution - A Manifesto" was a great read. It explains quite a bit of how we got here and how we could have fixed it. His bill to Audit the Federal Reserve is getting supporters in Congress. Not that I think that will have any real teeth either, but you never know?

MamaRaptor

 

[kelvin070]

American capitalism been falling like dominoes lately.
Source: Largest Bankruptcies

 

[Alien Allen]

must make your dick tingle eh

 

[kelvin070]

LMAO, was expecting a response from you.

 

[Alien Allen]

LMAO, was expecting a response from you.

yeah well you are like a broken record too

I bet you never saw a socialist you did not like