A victim of my own beliefs...

[Ryum]

I have always been pro choice.. with the noted stipulation that if I could be given the choice I would never commit an abortion (if I was a gorl) or suggest one, support one, ect
I can't look at what's growing and just see a fetus... I see a baby and I can't imagine doing something on purpose to hurt a baby...

I think it is morally wrong, but I also don't think someone I don't even know should be subjected to my moral code of what is right and wrong.


That being my belief my girlfriend thinks that she is pregnant, but is very seriously considering getting an abortion if she finds out that she is pregnant...
We have been dating for quite a long time, I do love her and I can see a real future for us, but as I explained to her
Even if we break up, or things do not work out for whatever reason I still want to have the kid.
I will take all the steps needed so I can raise my child on my own if she does not want to be a part of his or her life.

I am a very responsible adult, and have been for quite some time now, and I have no problem admitting having a child is extremely frightening to me, and that I have no idea how to really take care of a kid..
I don't know how to change a diaper, where I am even supposed to buy baby clothes, or the millions of other things you are supposed to know how to do. I can't even cook for myself... I know it's sad
But I can do one thing, I can always do everything in my power to make sure he or she is always taken care of, and will be loved until the day I die.

I don't know what else I can say or do to try and change her mind.

 

[Kungfu]

Are you trying to say your GF is considering a Abortion?

 

[Haus]

i think thats what he's saying if she is pregnant.


why doesnt she want the kid. is she not ready or not financially stable.

 

[Kungfu]

If so there are otehr options other than Abortion...

 

[artisan00]

yeah i guess you need to find out the reason why she would want to have an abortion. maybe she wants to get married first, maybe shes just scared, could be a host of reasons.

 

[Kungfu]

:agree

 

[Jersey]

:agree find out what her reasons are before you worry about it... you're not even sure she is really pregnant

 

[OUZBnd]

i've had these scares a couple times too. My advice, don't sweat it until you know for sure.

 

[Mommajack]

How old is she and how old are you? Are you sure you're financially able to take care of a child? Never the less, I agree with you that abortion is wrong. To me, it is murder. why would the mother's life be more important than the childs'? I don't see why anyone who doesn't want a child would not give the baby up rather than abort it, no matter what their opinion of abortion is. Find out why she wants to get rid of it, and explain to her that while yes, it's her body, you consider the fetus to be a baby and your child which you love and want...that is, if she turns out to be pregnant. Keep us updated on this!

 

[AtlanticBlue99]

if you are responsible enough to have sex, you must be prepared for parenthood. i favor adoption over abortion if you cannot afford or care for a child, but it is free choice, just a choice i dont respect

 

[Sim]

Re: RE: A victim of my own beliefs...

Yeah...um...let's look at the numbers, shall we? There are already a large number of children in this country alone that need parents. So I'm all for abortion. Why bother bringing another unwanted child into the world, when all it is going to do is resent the fact that it was ditched by its parent(s) right after birth?

Until something changes in this lifetime, and it won't, then I'm all for people aborting whatever they want. Period.

As for why a mother's life is more important...she can survive outside the womb, unlike a fetus which is generally under the 2nd trimester mark.

Never the less, I agree with you that abortion is wrong. To me, it is murder. why would the mother's life be more important than the childs'? I don't see why anyone who doesn't want a child would not give the baby up rather than abort it, no matter what their opinion of abortion is.

 

[Mrs Behavin]

Im pro-choice. I love me kids dearly and wouldnt change a thing.
My opinion, its a womans body. She is the one that will have to go thru with the pregnancy and/or abortion. If she is willing to pay that kind of $$ to have an abortion done, then she is obviously serious about it. To have an abortion here in Arkansas, it starts out at $725! And the price goes up the further along pregnant you are.

Ask her if she would be willing to go talk to a counselor about it first before she makes any life changing decisions.

 

[Sim]

God damn, that's a fucking horrid purple thing!

Anyway...Texas's prices start at around $300. You compare that to how expensive it is to deliver a baby, around $2k, and then the price it takes to keep the child clothed, fed, and well for the next 20 years...then yeah, wise option to save a great deal of money.

 

[Mrs Behavin]

Re: RE: A victim of my own beliefs...

God damn, that's a fucking horrid purple thing!

Anyway...Texas's prices start at around $300. You compare that to how expensive it is to deliver a baby, around $2k, and then the price it takes to keep the child clothed, fed, and well for the next 20 years...then yeah, wise option to save a great deal of money.

:rofl I think thats Rerun. :dunno

Anyhow, not to try to change how you feel Ryum but maybe you could write down the pros and cons. Just a suggestion.

 

[Agaryulnaer]

Alright, before I start, don't take this for anything, and this just pure bluntness.

First off, shut the fuck up. You're not a woman, you have no idea what they go through, and you never will. They go through all the work, they go through all the labor, and they have to spit the thing out. You want a kid, good for you, you're a moron, go knock up some chick who's ready to populate the over crowded planet with more people having to suffer with the times ahead. You're a guy, you seed the egg, you don't own the egg, you have no say so over the egg. If she wants to ditch the egg, good for her, she's smart and probably doing everyone a favor. As we progress through time, we have no need for everyone to procreate and cause more growth. Do you know why people had kids before? It's because they wanted to carry on family names, tradition, history, wealth, and to become the parents personal slave to do their bidding because, lets face it, they were gonna be dead within a few years anyway. Do you have great importance for a kid to take on for your family? Do you have some great wealth of knowledge to pass down? I'm gonna take a nice guess and say, probably not.

Now, with all that said, have a happy day, and remember it's all for the children :tard .

 

[Mrs Behavin]

Whoa...wait a sec. I got pregnant with my first child at age 19. Didnt have a clue as to what expect. But as I felt that baby growing inside me, it was joyous. I dont know what I would do without my children now that I have them. They are my pride and joy. Having kids is not that bad. You just have to be ready for some life changes. The day that baby is born, your life is changed forever. And so far, it has changed my life for the best. I did ALot of growing up once my first child was born, I had no choice.

And just because he wants a kid, does not make him a moron. Means he is a good person deep down inside with a heart.

 

[Sim]

Re: RE: A victim of my own beliefs...

Amy, everyone has an opinion...this is his, as he stated in the beginning of his post:

Alright, before I start, don't take this for anything, and this just pure bluntness.

Now then...that being said...

I was pregnant at fifteen thanks to some 23-year-old jerk who decided to take advantage of a girl who was passed out in her cousin's room with the door locked. I was given my options, and I still stand by my decision.

I don't think your child(ren) should be an excuse for you to grow up...or the reason behind it. I think you should be mature BEFORE ever deciding to have children. There are reasons behind people out there putting out condoms and other contraceptive devices...it's so that people can show they are responsible enough for their OWN lives to not bring another one into this world...when they don't do that and have a little 'oopsie', then yeah...they're pretty much stupid.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I'm pro choice. Do what you feel is necessary... other than that, my opinion on this subject will be useless.

 

[Mrs Behavin]

Re: RE: A victim of my own beliefs...

Amy, everyone has an opinion...this is his, as he stated in the beginning of his post:

Alright, before I start, don't take this for anything, and this just pure bluntness.

Now then...that being said...

I was pregnant at fifteen thanks to some 23-year-old jerk who decided to take advantage of a girl who was passed out in her cousin's room with the door locked. I was given my options, and I still stand by my decision.

I don't think your child(ren) should be an excuse for you to grow up...or the reason behind it. I think you should be mature BEFORE ever deciding to have children. There are reasons behind people out there putting out condoms and other contraceptive devices...it's so that people can show they are responsible enough for their OWN lives to not bring another one into this world...when they don't do that and have a little 'oopsie', then yeah...they're pretty much stupid.

My little "oopsie" wasnt an oopsie. Me and my now husband had been dating since we were 17. We were already engaged and already had a wedding date set. We had already planned on having kids. I was on birth control, she just came sooner than expected. And I love her more than anything on this earth.

I am pro-choice. Its a big decision either way.

 

[Sim]

A. I was referring to those who don't practice safe sex and then wonder how the hell something has happened to them. They're idiots.

B. Don't take everything so personally.

C. While it's dandy that everything worked out for you, do you ever stop to think that perhaps you wouldn't have to figure out how to pay the electric bill AND the physician's bill had you not had a child when you did? I know you'll just come back and say, "I don't regret her..." but that isn't the question I'm asking, so don't get your tail feathers all in a ruffle.

D. There are a lot of people, and you can't deny this, who are emotionally immature and should NOT be allowed to take on a child, let alone care for themselves. It is a fact of life in society.

E. I really don't care what decision anyone wants to make...as long as it isn't my tax dollars sweeping up their messes...so since it is, I'll keep flapping my jaws until people wise up and realize they shouldn't have children at all.