A Question For Some Vegetarians

[Innez]

I've been vegetarian for quite a long time now....must be around 8 years or something like that. It has also something to do with healthy lifestyle, not that I don't care about those poor animals but I just feel lot better when I actually don't eat meat at all.

 

[juggler]

I'm a meat eater!!! Not sure I could go full-on carnivore tho! Me and Binbag (a fellow Smurf) did a charity BBQ at the pub a while back, and afterwards didn't eat meat for 3 or 4 days!!! Not because I didn't like the meat, or because I was sickened by it. More to do with the fact that after 2 days of free BBQ I really needed some veg and salad!!!!
Normally I'm a rare steak person.

 

[Pudding Time]

I've thought before whether I could go "meat only". And I think I could. There are so many ways to prepare all the different types of meat. That and the fact that I'm not a big veggie eater. Except carrots. I love carrots.

 

[gLing]

This story here is enough to make you want to go vegetarian.

The Associated Press: USDA Orders Nation's Largest Beef Recall

 

[SRC]

The people who refuse to wear leather, drink animal by-products (like milks and butte rmade from dairy products), and don't eat any type animal (fish or chicken included) are vegans.

There are some who "claim" to be vegan but really aren't. They could be dating someone who is vegan or trying to fit into a society, but a "true" vegan does not wear animal skin, or eat animal products. They won't even eat refried beans at certain restaurants because they contain lard, and animal fat.

People who just eat vegetables are vegetarians .. and most do it because they think it is a healthier way to live, and it can be as long as you suppliment your diet heavily with vitamins .. to make up for the loss of such by not eating meat. Like Evan said .. we are omnivores and were created to eat meat. we even have the teeth for it.

I think Pete's main concern was .. if we were to stopped eating meat today .. what would happen to all the animals that have already been produced for meat consumption?

My answer .. we would have a lot of dead animals .. because no one would be able to afford to house/feed them. They pay for their own upkeep .. without the income from selling them for food .. they would in essence be terminating themselves.

 

[Pudding Time]

This story here is enough to make you want to go vegetarian.

The Associated Press: USDA Orders Nation's Largest Beef Recall

Yeah I saw this on CNN. Still wouldn't make me go without meat. I love meat way to much.

 

[Breath]

I have never been vegetarian or vegan. I enjoy meat and it's certainly a tasty way to get protein. However, I do not eat meat every day. I always buy poultry, seafood and good quality beef or pork, with lower percentages of fat, because it's just healthier to me.
I adore vegetables, almost all of them. A salad with everything is heavenly.

 

[Ria]

The people who refuse to wear leather, drink animal by-products (like milks and butte rmade from dairy products), and don't eat any type animal (fish or chicken included) are vegans.

There are some who "claim" to be vegan but really aren't. They could be dating someone who is vegan or trying to fit into a society, but a "true" vegan does not wear animal skin, or eat animal products. They won't even eat refried beans at certain restaurants because they contain lard, and animal fat.

People who just eat vegetables are vegetarians .. and most do it because they think it is a healthier way to live, and it can be as long as you suppliment your diet heavily with vitamins .. to make up for the loss of such by not eating meat. Like Evan said .. we are omnivores and were created to eat meat. we even have the teeth for it.

I think Pete's main concern was .. if we were to stopped eating meat today .. what would happen to all the animals that have already been produced for meat consumption?

My answer .. we would have a lot of dead animals .. because no one would be able to afford to house/feed them. They pay for their own upkeep .. without the income from selling them for food .. they would in essence be terminating themselves.

Just to slightly make a correction there Jen - us veggies don't just purely eat vegetables and nothing else - many of us eat eggs, cheese, some may choose cheese without retin, but some don't. There are varying veggies but vegans are the real strict ones.

There has been a lot of controversy over vitamins too over the last few years, over here (I don't know about over there). You can actually OD on vitiamins, as far as is told to us over here.

Some veggies eat poultry but not cattle meat, which people don't expect to hear. A couple of my friends are veggies but only eat chicken out of that kind of category.

Some eat Tuna, but no cattle meat or poultry.

Some veggies don't eat meat, poultry, or dairy products.

I know of all the above combinations in veggies.

Some veggies eat and drink dairy products, but will not wear leather or animal fur too.

Vegans are very streamlined, strict and as you say above, they don't eat any of the above, or touch dairy products, or wear leather etc.

I have only known about 4 vegans and they are very rigid in their preferences.

This bit isn't at you Jen - just thought I'd include my post in this too...

As I have said before, I have been a veggie now for about 23 years. I ate Tuna up until about 8 years ago, but no meats - I eat quorn, I make my own food too that is veggie. My son eats meat and can make his own choices in what he wants, but he doesn't like red meat at all.

We both enjoy salad food too.

Veggie food is tasty and colourful - It hasn't to be boring at all, which some people I know, think to be so.

I am all for each to their own - it's preference and neither right or wrong, just because we all eat different things and have different preferences, it's just how it is.


Are Humans Carnivores or Herbivores?

 

[Dana]

I eat alotta meat but I don't go veggie less all the time.

 

[Peter Parka]

Some veggies eat poultry but not cattle meat, which people don't expect to hear. A couple of my friends are veggies but only eat chicken out of that kind of category.

Some eat Tuna, but no cattle meat or poultry.

That dosen't make sense, by definition they are not vegetarians. That's like me saying I'm a tee totaler who only drinks beer or a non smoker who only smokes cigars!

I think Pete's main concern was .. if we were to stopped eating meat today .. what would happen to all the animals that have already been produced for meat consumption?

My answer .. we would have a lot of dead animals .. because no one would be able to afford to house/feed them. They pay for their own upkeep .. without the income from selling them for food .. they would in essence be terminating themselves.

This is exactly the point I was making. It dosen't make sense to me that if you don't eat meat out of concern for animals and thinking it's wrong to kill them. I understand a lot of farm animals don't get treated very well but it's easier and easier to boycott their products. I only buy free range eggs for instance, just as available as battery hens eggs. If it's so cruel to kill animals for food, well, if everyone stopped eating meat, even more animals would have to be killed for no good reason and whole species would become exstinct. If you're going to kill animals, it makes sense that you use them for meat ect instead of letting them go to waste.

 

[juggler]

I went to a pub for a meal with friends, and they had Prawns as one of the veg alternatives!!!!

 

[Ria]

That dosen't make sense, by definition they are not vegetarians. That's like me saying I'm a tee totaler who only drinks beer or a non smoker who only smokes cigars!



This is exactly the point I was making. It dosen't make sense to me that if you don't eat meat out of concern for animals and thinking it's wrong to kill them. I understand a lot of farm animals don't get treated very well but it's easier and easier to boycott their products. I only buy free range eggs for instance, just as available as battery hens eggs. If it's so cruel to kill animals for food, well, if everyone stopped eating meat, even more animals would have to be killed for no good reason and whole species would become exstinct. If you're going to kill animals, it makes sense that you use them for meat ect instead of letting them go to waste.

I know what you are saying, but that's not me saying they are veggies, just giving combinations of what people do and say they are veggies that's all^^^^ Not that I am saying that at all.

As I said too, it's a preference thing and I just eat what I am happy with and like - I don't like meat or fish.

Re the culmination of animals - well, if no-one were to eat meat, then they just wouldn't be bred at all - breeding makes more animals.

Each person is entitled to eat what they want and call themselves veggies or otherwise imo, it doesn't get to me because most people I know, eat meat.

Oh and I also buy free range eggs.

 

[Peter Parka]

Each person is entitled to eat what they want and call themselves veggies or otherwise imo, it doesn't get to me because most people I know, eat meat.

Oh and I also buy free range eggs.

Oh they can call themselves what they like but if they eat any kind of meat they are lying and going to confuse people because as I said, by definition they are not. I just think it's rather deluded to pretend to be something you are not and damn confusing too!

 

[Ria]

Oh they can call themselves what they like but if they eat any kind of meat they are lying and going to confuse people because as I said, by definition they are not. I just think it's rather deluded to pretend to be something you are not and damn confusing too!

Well, I wouldn't call it lying or pretending to be what they aren't exactly, just that what they say is kinda like they are veggie mostly, but eat poultry, for example, that kinda thing. it doesn't worry me if they say that, up to them.

 

[SRC]

veg·e·tar·i·an
–noun 1.a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc. –adjective 2.of or pertaining to vegetarianism or vegetarians. 3.devoted to or advocating this practice. 4.consisting solely of vegetables: vegetarian vegetable soup.

Well, the word "vegetarian" is slowly changing its meaning. It used to describe vegans too, but that meaning changed too. The correct name for people who eat fish is "pescatarian" though. I suppose they use the word "vegetarian" in order to sound more special or something. Yeah, it's extremely annoying!

Then, of course, whenever I tell people that I'm vegan, I get this:
"Do you eat fish?
Do you eat poultry?
Do you drink milk?
Do you eat eggs?
Even honey?"

I guess just most people don't understand the meaning of any of it. We'll inform them

But what's worse for me is when "vegetarians" eat gelatin, rennet, or Caesar dressing. Gelatin is in a lot of candies and creams, yet some "vegetarians" always eat it. Gelatin is made from boiled bones, cartilage, etc. Rennet is an enzyme found in cheese that's found in a calf's stomach. Caesar dressing has Worcestershire sauce in it, which has anchovies in it.

That bugs the heck out of me. Uniformed "vegetarians". I guess the reason why I really dislike "vegetarians" that eat gelatin is because I can't. Gummy bears were the hardest to give up when I went vegetarian. XD

Ovo-Lacto Vegetarians don't eat animals (including birds and fish) but they do consume dairy products and free-range eggs.

Ovo-Vegetarians eat eggs but don't consume animals and dairy products.

Lacto-Vegetarians consume dairy products but don't eat animals and eggs.

Pescetarians eat fish and all the above (though I'm not sure what anyone's position is regarding caviar).

Vegans eat nothing that is animal-derived—so no eggs for breakfast, no caviar with the champagne, or milk with cookies.

So my guess is that if the only thing you do not eat is red meat, then you'd be an…

Ovo-Lacto-Avi-Pescetarian ('Avi' coming from the Latin for 'bird': 'avis').

I stand by my original statement, vegetarians do not eat meat products or by products. Vegans on the other hand take it a step further and do not wear or use any type of animal based product.

If you call yourself a veggie and eat any food item that originally had a "face" .. then you are not a "true" vegetarian.

 

[dt3]

If you call yourself a veggie and eat any food item that originally had a "face" .. then you are not a "true" vegetarian.

What about that toast that had the Virgin Mary on it? Does that count as a face? :confused

 

[bong_express]

what does the definition of vegetarian have anything to do with the original question. there would be a lot of dead and/or extinct animals i think but i don't think we have any fear of that happening because there will never come a time when all people stop eating meat!! too many people enjoy it too much

 

[SRC]

what does the definition of vegetarian have anything to do with the original question.

it doesn't .. but someone asked .. so it got answered. That's how forums work :24:

 

[SRC]

What about that toast that had the Virgin Mary on it? Does that count as a face? :confused

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