A Picture is worth 1000 words...

[Elle]

 

[DaveM]

So UK had it all under control then.. Why hadn't the war been won before USA got involved?

we were surviving dude, that's was your original point, you said we would all be speaking german, I proved you weren't, the reason we didn't get a foot hold on the mainland was the army, there wasn't enough man power, and iof japan hadn't attacked the us, there still wouldn't have been, once the us agreed to war, the allieds had a lot more man power to get a foot hold on the landings and make headway, the americans didn't win the war, a contribution was made to the war, they were allieds,it wasn't the american army

 

[Cotton]

we were surviving dude, that's was your original point, you said we would all be speaking german, I proved you weren't, the reason we didn't get a foot hold on the mainland was the army, there wasn't enough man power, and iof japan hadn't attacked the us, there still wouldn't have been, once the us agreed to war, the allieds had a lot more man power to get a foot hold on the landings and make headway, the americans didn't win the war, a contribution was made to the war, they were allieds,it wasn't the american army

Once again how long could UK have held out, with out the help of America to push them back and eventually win.

I know why America joined, and yes we had no intent of joining until Japan attacked us, but I think EU should be thankful we did.

 

[DaveM]

Once again how long could UK have held out, with out the help of America to push them back and eventually win.

lol dude repeating a question which I just answered isn't a good debate tactic, it was holding out, that is the point, the only reason the uk declared a state of war was poland, I'll repeat, we were, holding out anyway, and with russian element smashing their way through the germans, weakening them on the eastern front, and the massive weakening of the luftwaffe during the battle of britain, a while mate

 

[All Else Failed]

Actually WW2 would have been won even if the US wasn't involved by the Russians. The Russians won WW2. tbh

 

[DaveM]

Actually WW2 would have been won even if the US wasn't involved by the Russians. The Russians won WW2. tbh

yeah they did, they were the first into Berlin, I have a picture in a book somewhere of them removing a flag from the reichstag

 

[dt3]

After they decided to attack Russia, Germany never had the ability to invade the UK. At all.

 

[DaveM]

After they decided to attack Russia, Germany never had the ability to invade the UK. At all.

no it didn't, plus, with the royal navy, and having to ship supplies in, even with the u boat contingent, it would have been difficult if they did

 

[All Else Failed]

Don't worry I won't get all emo like some people. I could give two shits what you call me or what you think. All you are is another name on the internet, nothing more, nothing less.

Lets review...

How many muslims nations are ruled with an iron fist that surpress their citizens rights, hang teenage girls for being raped, and flat out ignore human rights?

How many muslim nations harbor and or support terrorist?

How many muslim clerics openly condemend 9/11?

How many 9/11 terrorists were Muslim?

How many USS Cole bombers were Muslim?

How many Embassy Bombers were Muslim?

How many Madrid Train Bombers were Muslim?

Was the first WTC bomber Muslim?

Do muslims kill innocent civilians in the name of religon?

How many muslims abducted and decapitated innocent people?

How many muslim nations have thousands of schools that openly teach hatred of the West?

2/25/2008 (Rawalpindi, Pakistan) - Eight people are killed when a suicide bomber rams into another vehicle along a city road.2/25/2008 (Mansehra, Pakistan) - At least one woman is among four dead when Islamists attack and burn down a humanitarian agency office.2/24/2008 (Iskandariyah, Iraq) - A suicidal Sunni blasts more than sixty Shia pilgrims to death as they are resting from their journey in a tent.2/24/2008 (Dinsoor, Somalia) - Islamic militias attack a small town, killing eighteen local defenders.2/24/2008 (Mosul, Iraq) - Two electrical workers are blown apart in an IED attack on their vehicle.2/24/2008 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Three Shia pilgrims are killed when Sunni gunmen attack their procession.


Religon of Peace right thur!

You're using faulty logic, but then again I'm not surprised in the least. You can't just take the actions of a minority of people from a people/race/religion that are violent, and just lump them all into one category of being "terrorists". NEWSFLASH: All groups/nations/ethnicities etc etc etc have radical elements associated with them. BUT, if you are a logical person (which you are not), you will SEE that those are just a small group within the bigger whole that perpetrate these acts of terrorism in the name of their own beliefs and goals, not the beliefs and goals of the WHOLE.

 

[debbie t]

Actually WW2 would have been won even if the US wasn't involved by the Russians. The Russians won WW2. tbh

actually ron that is true of the european theatre..sadly the bastards raped and totured 100.000 german women on the way through.
(and yes i know thats nothing compared to what the germans did to the russians)

 

[All Else Failed]

actually ron that is true of the european theatre..sadly the bastards raped and totured 100.000 german women on the way through.
(and yes i know thats nothing compared to what the germans did to the russians)

Yeah that was messed up, but all in all they were the strategic victors of the European theater.

 

[debbie t]

After they decided to attack Russia, Germany never had the ability to invade the UK. At all.

see you bugger youve got me watching UKTV history world at war again:24:

 

[DaveM]

actually ron that is true of the european theatre..sadly the bastards raped and totured 100.000 german women on the way through.
(and yes i know thats nothing compared to what the germans did to the russians)

yeah I know, that's the bit of history they leave out, the soldiers were basically told they were justified in doing it

 

[Cotton]

You're using faulty logic, but then again I'm not surprised in the least. You can't just take the actions of a minority of people from a people/race/religion that are violent, and just lump them all into one category of being "terrorists". NEWSFLASH: All groups/nations/ethnicities etc etc etc have radical elements associated with them. BUT, if you are a logical person (which you are not), you will SEE that those are just a small group within the bigger whole that perpetrate these acts of terrorism in the name of their own beliefs and goals, not the beliefs and goals of the WHOLE.

I just choose to view the world through my eyes and not rose colored glasses.

 

[Pudding Time]

I just choose to view the world through my eyes and not rose colored glasses.

Actually you are trying to view the world out your own rectum, since only someone completely up themselves could think all muslims are terrorists.

 

[debbie t]

Actually you are trying to view the world out your own rectum, since only someone completely up themselves could think all muslims are terrorists.

i get confused in another thread cotton you said that no peace talks should ever go on due to your view on all muslims ,and then went on to say that the US give the PLO millions of dollars..where do you stand on these two issues?

 

[Cotton]

i get confused in another thread cotton you said that no peace talks should ever go on due to your view on all muslims ,and then went on to say that the US give the PLO millions of dollars..where do you stand on these two issues?

Once again you can't read worth a shit than.

I never said peace talks shouldn't be held, thats a total lie on your behalf.

I said NUMEROUS and I can't stress NUMEROUS times enough cause you apparently don't know what NUMEROUS means.

USA and Israel after worked together SEVERAL times to offer peaces deals/land (which you claim is stolen) to the Palastinians. At the time in the 90's Arafat rejected the biggest land offer made to date.

I think it's bullshit that we give them so much money, but the people never see it cause corrupt leaders keep it for themselves.

Do you comprehend that?

 

[Elle]

Well, SOMEONE's kinda an asshole!

 

[debbie t]

Once again you can't read worth a shit than.

I never said peace talks shouldn't be held, thats a total lie on your behalf.

I said NUMEROUS and I can't stress NUMEROUS times enough cause you apparently don't know what NUMEROUS means.

USA and Israel after worked together SEVERAL times to offer peaces deals/land (which you claim is stolen) to the Palastinians. At the time in the 90's Arafat rejected the biggest land offer made to date.

I think it's bullshit that we give them so much money, but the people never see it cause corrupt leaders keep it for themselves.

Do you comprehend that?

you say the US gives the PLO money ..millions in your words..so are the PLO not muslim extremeist terrorists?please answer and stop simply insulting me...just answer this one question

 

[Cotton]

you say the US gives the PLO money ..millions in your words..so are the PLO not muslim extremeist terrorists?please answer and stop simply insulting me...just answer this one question

Yassar Arafat was 100% a terrorist, the ruling party of the PLO are absolutley terrorists.

The Palestinian parlament (or whatever it is) is made up mostly of Hamas members now....