A good way to think of wealth distribution (i.e. socialism + Obama)

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Peter Parka said:
What about if you're able to work but the jobs arn't there? I've lived through one reccesion as a working man and we're entering into another.
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there are short term programs here to handle that. unemployment insurance is for about half a year if I am not mistaken.

Peter I have no idea what your country is like but ours has raised a bunch of pussies that are unwilling to do manual labor. Which is one reason there are so many illegals here. Kids are given a sense of entitlement growing up. They do no want to pay the price to further themselves. There will always be hard times but even when things are great this applied.

None of us conservatives are against a safety net. But it has gone beyond that and the govt is not the answer. The answer is the old fashioned way. Friends, family, neighbors, the church etc. helped people get thru hard times. We used to be closed knit communities. Now we are distant from neighbors
 
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Alien Allen said:
there are short term programs here to handle that. unemployment insurance is for about half a year if I am not mistaken.

Peter I have no idea what your country is like but ours has raised a bunch of pussies that are unwilling to do manual labor. Which is one reason there are so many illegals here. Kids are given a sense of entitlement growing up. They do no want to pay the price to further themselves. There will always be hard times but even when things are great this applied.

None of us conservatives are against a safety net. But it has gone beyond that and the govt is not the answer. The answer is the old fashioned way. Friends, family, neighbors, the church etc. helped people get thru hard times. We used to be closed knit communities. Now we are distant from neighbors
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Never heard of unemployment insurance over here, is that like redundancy pay? There's none of that unless you've been a long term employee.
See your point about soft kids, we get them over here, they soon learn to stand on their own two feet when mummy and daddy kick them out of home, I think that is a general problem in most of the Western world.

The old fashioned way as you say, isn't the answer, we dont live in close nit communities like that, mores the pity and like it or not, that wont work.
 
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Alien Allen said:
there are short term programs here to handle that. unemployment insurance is for about half a year if I am not mistaken.

Peter I have no idea what your country is like but ours has raised a bunch of pussies that are unwilling to do manual labor. Which is one reason there are so many illegals here. Kids are given a sense of entitlement growing up. They do no want to pay the price to further themselves. There will always be hard times but even when things are great this applied.

None of us conservatives are against a safety net. But it has gone beyond that and the govt is not the answer. The answer is the old fashioned way. Friends, family, neighbors, the church etc. helped people get thru hard times. We used to be closed knit communities. Now we are distant from neighbors
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Lol, so true... and now they're voting for socialism because it means they won't have to (at least for the short term, until the whole economy crashes completely because of it).
 
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Peter Parka said:
Never heard of unemployment insurance over here, is that like redundancy pay? There's none of that unless you've been a long term employee.
See your point about soft kids, we get them over here, they soon learn to stand on their own two feet when mummy and daddy kick them out of home, I think that is a general problem in most of the Western world.

The old fashioned way as you say, isn't the answer, we dont live in close nit communities like that, mores the pity and like it or not, that wont work.
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over here it does not take long to get unemployment payments

it is all dependent upon time worked. but it does not take much to get something.

we have had a couple who worked for a month or two get put in the pool.
 
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skyblue said:
but who on minimum wage can afford unemployment insurance?
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the employers pay for it.

it is not something that the employee pays.

it is a mandatory fee paid every quarter by businesses that goes into a state fund. at least in my state. I am not sure what it costs but we just got hit with a surcharge of $67 per employee per quarter as the state fund went dry and they had to borrow from the feds.
 
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