9/11 conspiracy theorists

[Boomer]

Ah aluminum eh?Good to know. Im 30000 some odd feet in the air. Riding on something I use to wrap my sandwiches with. Great....

 

[Tim]

But the wings are sprinkled with pixie dust...

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

The only part of the wing left intact was the part on the outside of the wall, that kept travelling forward. Everything that hit the wall was destroyed.

And do you think the outer ring of the Pentagon is "designed to be destroyed"? I doubt it.

No, but it's not designed to do what that wall did either, is it? The theory going around is that the planes wings were "destroyed" and the body of the plane kept going, penetrating the outer wall and going inside the pentagon. If the plane could surivve such and impact, and continue momentum like that, AFTER such a big explosion, and hit a second wall, then what's stopping the wings from just being sheared off and falling to the ground?

 

[dt3]

No, but it's not designed to do what that wall did either, is it? The theory going around is that the planes wings were "destroyed" and the body of the plane kept going, penetrating the outer wall and going inside the pentagon. If the plane could surivve such and impact, and continue momentum like that, AFTER such a big explosion, and hit a second wall, then what's stopping the wings from just being sheared off and falling to the ground?

The frame of the airplane and the engines are made mostly of TITANIUM (which is where Boomz probably got confused). The wings are hollow shells (essentially air) of ALUMINUM. Titanium > Aluminum.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

That and if someone is being brutally disrespectful to the other side of the argument. I dont mind if you dont believe in God, but if you disrespect the fact that I do, then I have to slam dance on your collar bone.

I hear yuh on that.

The thing is tho that protagonists of either belief are usually so strong willed as to their conviction that it is an exceedingly difficult job to persuade or convince them otherwise of their belief no matter who hard one tries. That's why it goes round and round...and round (repeat to infinitum).

Makes for interesting debate tho if one has the patience to bear. The funny thing is no matter how one side brings up an idea or theory the other side finds something to debunk it.

 

[Boomer]

I hear yuh on that.

The thing is tho that protagonists of either belief are usually so strong willed as to their conviction that it is an exceedingly difficult job to persuade or convince them otherwise of their belief no matter who hard one tries. That's why it goes round and round...and round (repeat to infinitum).

Makes for interesting debate tho if one has the patience to bear. The funny thing is no matter how one side brings up an idea or theory the other side finds something to debunk it.

Fucking Word. Completely pointless to try and change peoples mind on such subject matter. Talk about football and get over it. :rockon:

 

[Boomer]

Then again, I've gotten in a fight over a football conversation too. Had nothing to do with football, just the way I was being addressed.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Ah aluminum eh?Good to know. Im 30000 some odd feet in the air. Riding on something I use to wrap my sandwiches with. Great....

Not very encouraging is it? Sprinkled with pixie dust or not.

Note to self: Stay on land.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

The frame of the airplane and the engines are made mostly of TITANIUM (which is where Boomz probably got confused). The wings are hollow shells (essentially air) of ALUMINUM. Titanium > Aluminum.

I'm finding this rather pointless to even talk about at this point, because nwo you're just repeating the same thing. Look at it this way: The cable spools in front of the building were unharmed, the WINDOWS in the fucking wall that was hit ARE INTACT. Looking at this, the wings could have easily just been sheared off and landed on the ground. The perfect hole in the building does not look like a plane hit it. The plane would have damn near taken the wall out, and not made a perfect circle, but jagged pieces of wall falling all around it. The pictures from the pentagon suggest a missle attack, which is also backed up by the pictures I provided one page back.

 

[Boomer]

I hear yuh on that.

The thing is tho that protagonists of either belief are usually so strong willed as to their conviction that it is an exceedingly difficult job to persuade or convince them otherwise of their belief no matter who hard one tries. That's why it goes round and round...and round (repeat to infinitum).

Makes for interesting debate tho if one has the patience to bear. The funny thing is no matter how one side brings up an idea or theory the other side finds something to debunk it.

Not very encouraging is it? Sprinkled with pixie dust or not.

Note to self: Stay on land.

Word. Never heard of anyone slipping and falling OFF the ground.

 

[dt3]

I'm finding this rather pointless to even talk about at this point, because nwo you're just repeating the same thing.

So are you.

Look at it this way: The cable spools in front of the building were unharmed, the WINDOWS in the fucking wall that was hit ARE INTACT.

You haven't mentioned any of this yet. What spools and windows are you talking about?

Looking at this, the wings could have easily just been sheared off and landed on the ground. The perfect hole in the building does not look like a plane hit it. The plane would have damn near taken the wall out, and not made a perfect circle, but jagged pieces of wall falling all around it.

I haven't seen a picture of a "perfect hole". Please, enlighten me.

The pictures from the pentagon suggest a missle attack, which is also backed up by the pictures I provided one page back.

You say they suggest a missile attack. Prominent structural engineers and scientists say they do not.

The pictures you provided are terrible quality, and pure conjecture: "Look, here's something that almost looks kinda like this shape". That is NOT evidence.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Then again, I've gotten in a fight over a football conversation too. Had nothing to do with football, just the way I was being addressed.

LOL Boomz.

And yeah......wurd. Hell, wars have been fought over religion and politics, so touchy a subject they are.

I say hey, how bout a couple o them beast cold beers.

Now let me get out of the people conspiracy thread before they say is a conspiracy.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

So are you.


You haven't mentioned any of this yet. What spools and windows are you talking about?


I haven't seen a picture of a "perfect hole". Please, enlighten me.


You say they suggest a missile attack. Prominent structural engineers and scientists say they do not.

The pictures you provided are terrible quality, and pure conjecture: "Look, here's something that almost looks kinda like this shape". That is NOT evidence.

I beg to differ, the quality of the "plane" hitting the pentagon, the nose of the object is much smaller than a plane, and you can see what looks to be a jet plane leaving the scene in the other set of pictures.

Notice the intact windows. Well within the impact and blast range of the "plane".

Proper clean hole, and notice the "No parking" sign still intact at the point of impact. Not even a burn mark on it. That's the toughest damn sign I've ever seen, they must be big at not parking near the pentagon.

 

[Boomer]

I beg to differ, the quality of the "plane" hitting the pentagon, the nose of the object is much smaller than a plane, and you can see what looks to be a jet plane leaving the scene in the other set of pictures.

Notice the intact windows. Well within the impact and blast range of the "plane".

Proper clean hole, and notice the "No parking" sign still intact at the point of impact. Not even a burn mark on it. That's the toughest damn sign I've ever seen, they must be big at not parking near the pentagon.

Bwahahaha! Wurd up dodge! :rockon:

 

[dt3]

I beg to differ, the quality of the "plane" hitting the pentagon, the nose of the object is much smaller than a plane, and you can see what looks to be a jet plane leaving the scene in the other set of pictures.

Now I know what to look for in those pictures, and I can tell you that IF a plane dropped a bomb/missile on the Pentago, you wouldn't see it flying 200 feet above it. They can shoot the missiles from 60 miles, you wouldn't see it in the background.

Notice the intact windows. Well within the impact and blast range of the "plane".

I can't tell that those windows are intact.

Proper clean hole, and notice the "No parking" sign still intact at the point of impact. Not even a burn mark on it. That's the toughest damn sign I've ever seen, they must be big at not parking near the pentagon.

Where is this perfect hole at? Cuz these are the pictures I've seen:
From what I just saw, this is the exit hole. If it was a missile, it would've exploded on contact/on a short delay (like our bunker busting bombs). Under NO circumstances would it have flown out the back.

My guess here: Looks about like it'd be the size of one of the engines to me.

 

[HisHoliness]

Is Dodge saying a missile made that hole? Even with the above description you gave, Dodge, it seemed like you were arguing for Donnie. When was it explained that missiles make "perfect" and round holes on impact? Only in video games, right?

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Is Dodge saying a missile made that hole? Even with the above description you gave, Dodge, it seemed like you were arguing for Donnie. When was it explained that missiles make "perfect" and round holes on impact? Only in video games, right?

You could be less of a smartass. I never said the make PERFECT holes, but it's damn near it. An airplane hitting that building would annihilate the fucking wall.

 

[dt3]

An airplane hitting that building would annihilate the fucking wall.

The structurally reinforced concrete wall versus what is basically a hollow aluminum tube. My money is on the wall.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

The structurally reinforced concrete wall versus what is basically a hollow aluminum tube. My money is on the wall.

Lmfao, I just got you. If the structure of the plane isn't strong enough to bust through reinforced concrete, how did we get that hole in the wall?

Here's one crucial piece of information. I'm going to pull out all the stops and use AEF's own website against him.

According to said website, and you yourself Donnie, the bottom half of the plane is the strongest, and most reinforced. Here's a picture from the website:

If that's the case, how the hell do we have a round hole, rather than a half circle? CGI videos of pentagon engineers show that they think the ENTIRE body, minus the wings and tail, kept momentum...after hitting reinforced concrete(Sure...if you're a drug addict, this makes sense), and continued to slide, on it's belly, into the E ring of the pentagon. Stay with me here. How the hell does the plane keep such momentum, that it can bust through "reinforced concrete" as you just called it Donnie, and KEEP GOING? And if it is "reinforced concrete", the top half of the plan would be gone, and you'd see a half-hole in the wall.

 

[dt3]

Lmfao, I just got you. If the structure of the plane isn't strong enough to bust through reinforced concrete, how did we get that hole in the wall?

Here's one crucial piece of information. I'm going to pull out all the stops and use AEF's own website against him.

According to said website, and you yourself Donnie, the bottom half of the plane is the strongest, and most reinforced. Here's a picture from the website:


If that's the case, how the hell do we have a round hole, rather than a half circle? CGI videos of pentagon engineers show that they think the ENTIRE body, minus the wings and tail, kept momentum...after hitting reinforced concrete(Sure...if you're a drug addict, this makes sense), and continued to slide, on it's belly, into the E ring of the pentagon. Stay with me here. How the hell does the plane keep such momentum, that it can bust through "reinforced concrete" as you just called it Donnie, and KEEP GOING? And if it is "reinforced concrete", the top half of the plan would be gone, and you'd see a half-hole in the wall.

You didn't "get me". The majority of the plane is a hollow aluminum tube. The rest of the plane (engines, landing gear, etc...) is made of titanium, as I stated previously. A giant mass of titanium (the engines) hitting the wall at high speed would, in my opinion, go through and cause a lot of damage. You said it would "annihilate the wall". I say it would cause a lot of damage.