10 y/o girl arrested for using knife to cut steak

[SRC]

They didn't take the kid to jail .. good god. You can't put a 10 year old in jail for christ sake. The most they did was take her to jouvanile hall.

Kate's right .. what if after she got done cutting her steak she passed it to a kid to her right or left .. and they in turn accidentally dropped it , leaned fast to get it .. and stabbed THEMSELF in the gut.

You know what you have then .. you have an accidentally dead kid.

It's the simple fact .. the rules state WHAT will happen if you bring one to school .. she brought one .. and exactly what has been strictly enforced in the past happened again .. SHE GOT IN TROUBLE.

 

[gLing]

I guess then .. when kids do anything at school they shouldn't get punished for it? No spankings, no detention .. no suspension.

I see you didn't bother reading anything I said. :smiley24:

 

[SRC]

I see you didn't bother reading anything I said. :smiley24:

OMG .. how could I not .. you've only said the same thing in every post. :smiley24:

 

[Mase]

The teachers should've taken the knife off her, and call the Parents about it. It would've been easily solved that way without any problems.

 

[HisHoliness]

I see you didn't bother reading anything I said. :smiley24:

I'd like to welcome you to your first OTz debate. I hope you can get used to this.

 

[Keight]

I see you didn't bother reading anything I said. :smiley24:

You didnt see anything i wrote either... hey im not a skillfull debate type person... however there was a point there too

 

[SRC]

See .. the issue I hold here is .. this is NOT the first time this has happened. This is NOT the first time this has made the news.

SO .. my problem here is .. they keep "arresting" childrne for bringing knives they aren't supposed to bring to school .. and people keep bitching about it .. YET .. what happens .. MORE kids bring MORE knives they aren't supposed to bring back to school.

I think they need to be more strict on it actually .. that way MAYBE these hard headed PARENTS AND KIDS .. will GET A CLUE .. and QUIT BRINGING KNIVES TO SCHOOL.

I'd like to welcome you to your first OTz debate. I hope you can get used to this.

yeah, I've been gettig used to her not reading (or comprehending) posts in the entire thread

 

[gLing]

Mmmmk after reading all of these replies i think the thing you cant seem to get past here Gling is the punnishment and although it may seem a bit harsh to some it seems justified to others, the main point i see is not the punnishment itself but the fact a child brought a knife into a place where Young minds are easily molded and are done so every day, its not as if she took it into a Pub, or lunch room but a school surrounded by others and even though she took it only to cut her lunch and not to commit a crime she still did wrong and should be punnished for entering a place where other children reside with a dangerous weapon.
Put the shoe on the other foot, you have a child and your child comes home and tells you at lucnh today she saw one of her friends cutting her lunch with a steak knife that isnt even allowed to be used at home by children unless supervised by an adult. Would you be pissed? I know i would be not the fact that she simply cut her lunch but kids are kids and are curious and whats to say that after she finished her lunch they all had time to play and they not fully realising the results of their actions played and someone got hurt?

So are you saying anything short of arresting the child for having a steak knife, even if it is just for her lunch, would not have taught her a lesson?
There was no other possible course that could have been taken?

They didn't take the kid to jail .. good god. You can't put a 10 year old in jail for christ sake. The most they did was take her to jouvanile hall.
.

That is jail. :smiley24:

OMG .. how could I not .. you've only said the same thing in every post. :smiley24:

Yet you either keep ignoring what I say or deliberately twist what I say into meaning something else.

 

[gLing]

You didnt see anything i wrote either... hey im not a skillfull debate type person... however there was a point there too

I did but I have yet to see a valid argument as to why this child should be arrested.

 

[Keight]

So are you saying anything short of arresting the child for having a steak knife, even if it is just for her lunch, would not have taught her a lesson?
There was no other possible course that could have been taken?

When you were a child did you or would you have taken a steak knife to school?

 

[gLing]

The teachers should've taken the knife off her, and call the Parents about it. It would've been easily solved that way without any problems.

Exactly

I'd like to welcome you to your first OTz debate. I hope you can get used to this.

Oh well people just don't want to see what others have to say. I guess discussing anything seriously is truly pointless on a discussion board.

 

[SRC]

Yet you either keep ignoring what I say or deliberately twist what I say into meaning something else.

I haven't twisted anything you've said .. I have quoted you .. I have challenged you .. but just because I have a better argument than you doesn't mean that I twisted ANYTHING you've said.

You are wrong here .. and you are desperately struggling to keep your head above the puddle of crap you're swimming in. :dunno I can't help that.

 

[gLing]

When you were a child did you or would you have taken a steak knife to school?

Yes when I was in 6th or 7th grade I did on occasion. Though I was in a private school, not a public school.

 

[gLing]

I haven't twisted anything you've said .. I have quoted you .. I have challenged you .. but just because I have a better argument than you doesn't mean that I twisted ANYTHING you've said.

You are wrong here .. and you are desperately struggling to keep your head above the puddle of crap you're swimming in. :dunno I can't help that.

Yes you did. You are implying because I think it was an overreaction for them to arrest this child to mean children should not be punished when they break the rules.
Your first response to me you implied I said people could not kill somebody with a steak knife because I said they are not weapons even though in the same sentence I said they could be used as weapons.
So yes you are twisting and ignoring.

 

[Keight]

Yes when I was in 6th or 7th grade I did on occasion. Though I was in a private school, not a public school.

Well See that right there explains why you do not see it as a bad thing. I would NEVER have taken a knife nor be allowed to take a knife to school i mean really whatever happened to a sandwich for lunch?

I understand you see the punishment as a bad thing why does a child deserve to be taken away by authorities and charged however as a parent i see it as stupid to even allow your child to consider taking a knife to school, thats like telling them its ok to strap some c4 to their chest but make sure they dont set it off.

The punishment that was given was IMO enough to scare that child and her parents into letting her do something stupid like that again. As harsh as it may sound these things are set by the government to teach people a lesson its just a shame it happened to someone so young.

 

[SRC]

#1. Yes you did. You are implying because I think it was an overreaction for them to arrest this child to mean children should not be punished when they break the rules.


#2. Your first response to me you implied I said people could not kill somebody with a steak knife because I said they are not weapons even though in the same sentence I said they could be used as weapons.
So yes you are twisting and ignoring.

#1. That is exactly what you're saying by saying that when she broke a rule she was over punished.

The rules set in place BY the school system state that if you bring guns, knives (of any variety or for any use), or any other FACTORY MADE WEAPON onto school property .. you will be arrested.

She did exactly what they said NOT to do .. and they did exactly what they said they would do if you did it.

What part of that doesn't make sense and what part of it isn't fair? They wrote down rules, implemented them, someone broke them, they followed through with the threat implemented with the rule.

#2. I di dnot say you said that .. I asked you. You acted like a steak knife was no different than a pencil or pen. I posted a picture and asked you if you thought i could not kill you with one. Implying that I believe it easier to KILL or hurt you with a steak knife than a pencil or pen.

I have also been stating that when rules that have set in stone consequences are broken .. the punishment threatened should be implemented .. you seem to think 10 yr olds shouddl be immune for whatever reason.

If that is twisting and/or ignoring .. then sure I certainly did it. :smiley24::unsure:

 

[AUDRAA]

umm hello does anyone else find it weird that a 10 year old is bringing steak for lunch?? what happened to PB&J. damn I dont even bring steak for lunch and Im a grown up

 

[Maulds]

Was the girl in the wrong...yes. Were her parents in the wrong...absolutely. Was it necessary to arrest her...I don't think so. Honestly couldn't in-school suspension and a parent-teacher conference have resolved the matter?

 

[SRC]

Has it solved the problem the last 20 or so times recently that kids have got caught bringing knives to school "in their lunch box"?

No .. they've gotta do something to get through to these idiots .. because "being nice and/or firm" just isn't .. (pardon the pun) cutting it evidently.

 

[Mase]

Neither does arresting over something like that, I'm afraid.