The Caylee Anthony Case

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Natasha

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One huge error was to fail to do tests which likely could have confirmed the drowning in the pool.

What specific tests??? You have to remember, these were SKELETAL remains. Not to mention that the drowning story didn't come about until much later. I have no doubts in my mind that Casey Anthony is guilty as hell...but there just wasn't enough evidence to convict her, unfortunately. Now, she has stated that Caylee drowned and she and her parents covered it up (she's a real smart one, *rolls eyes*). I personally would love to see them all charged w/ concealing a death, but it's looking like the state is going to wash it's hands of it. I guess we'll see.

As for Casey Anthony, she is a sociopath. She will sleep like a baby w/ no remorse for what I BELIEVE she did to that baby.
 
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http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Beyond+a+Reasonable+Doubt

Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
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The standard that must be met by the prosecution's evidence in a criminal prosecution: that no other logical explanation can be derived from the facts except that the defendant committed the crime, thereby overcoming the presumption that a person is innocent until proven guilty.

If the jurors or judge have no doubt as to the defendant's guilt, or if their only doubts are unreasonable doubts, then the prosecutor has proven the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and the defendant should be pronounced guilty.

The term connotes that evidence establishes a particular point to a moral certainty and that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does not mean that no doubt exists as to the accused's guilt, but only that no Reasonable Doubt is possible from the evidence presented.

Beyond a reasonable doubt is the highest standard of proof that must be met in any trial. In civil litigation, the standard of proof is either proof by a preponderance of the evidence or proof by clear and convincing evidence. These are lower burdens of proof. A preponderance of the evidence simply means that one side has more evidence in its favor than the other, even by the smallest degree. Clear and Convincing Proof is evidence that establishes a high probability that the fact sought to be proved is true. The main reason that the high proof standard of reasonable doubt is used in criminal trials is that such proceedings can result in the deprivation of a defendant's liberty or even in his or her death. These outcomes are far more severe than in civil trials, in which money damages are the common remedy.

Based on Casey's actions for the time after her daughter's death, if I were on the jury I would have pushed for deliberating longer.

There is also talk going on that George went along with the defense to let him be accused of child abuse of Casey to sway the verdict. Also, that the people that helped with the search party is livid and Casey will need protection from them. I don't know, this whole thing is a mess.
 

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Truthfully, Casey is a fuck up. Whether or not she killed Caylee, whether or not the verdict was right, she's been tangled in the law before. I have no doubt she will land herself back in jail at some point again...kinda like OJ :p
 

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This is pretty easy to say for people that have never sat in a courtroom, charged with killing someone. The burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Beyond a reasonable doubt. I saw this coming from day one. Sure, all signs point one way... but the prosecution failed to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Believe me... if YOU had ever sat in a courtroom charged with taking actions that caused the death of someone else, YOU would see how the state failed as well. In my instance, the deceased family was shocked and livid when I was acquitted as well. The fact remained that MY actions did not result in his death. I was simply following the standard of care that any other person would have been following that day.

We had a friend killed couple years ago here in NC. The person killed was also the best friend of our good neighbor. The murder suspect was the husband. When you read the story in the news and new the families history, you KNEW he (the husband) HAD to be guilty of murder (he claimed self defense). This man had money, and he had the best defense money could buy, along with the expert witnesses. Turns out that the state really screwed up, to the point of showing that the crime lab went out of it's way to CREATE evidence against the man. The State's crime lab got into serious trouble over this case to the point where a bunch of other cases in the past were going to be affected.

They found the guy not guilty, and honestly, after hearing how bad the State screwed up, I can't blame them for finding him not guilty.

If anger is to be directed towards anyone in this case, it shouldn't be the jurors, but the State who failed to "prove" to the jurors that this woman was guilty.
 
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What specific tests??? You have to remember, these were SKELETAL remains. Not to mention that the drowning story didn't come about until much later. I have no doubts in my mind that Casey Anthony is guilty as hell...but there just wasn't enough evidence to convict her, unfortunately. Now, she has stated that Caylee drowned and she and her parents covered it up (she's a real smart one, *rolls eyes*). I personally would love to see them all charged w/ concealing a death, but it's looking like the state is going to wash it's hands of it. I guess we'll see.

As for Casey Anthony, she is a sociopath. She will sleep like a baby w/ no remorse for what I BELIEVE she did to that baby.

According to what I heard today there are things in water that would get into the bones. The lawyer speaking said she guaranteed that the chemicals would turn up in bones.

Don't get me wrong with any of my comments. I don't doubt for a minute the mother and the entire family was involved in a cover up.

They went after murder one and there is nothing to indicate pre meditation or any prior conduct by the mother that was anything out of the norm.

If I was to guess the mother was AWOL or negligent in watching after the kid. Kid drowns, mother does not know what to do so takes off and dumps the kid and then the parents get caught up in a cover up.

This is based on very little of my following this soap opera so dont' shoot me:p
 

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This is pretty easy to say for people that have never sat in a courtroom, charged with killing someone. The burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Beyond a reasonable doubt. I saw this coming from day one. Sure, all signs point one way... but the prosecution failed to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Believe me... if YOU had ever sat in a courtroom charged with taking actions that caused the death of someone else, YOU would see how the state failed as well. In my instance, the deceased family was shocked and livid when I was acquitted as well. The fact remained that MY actions did not result in his death. I was simply following the standard of care that any other person would have been following that day.

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What makes you think she was KILLED ?

There was a massive cover up it seems but typically when one is KILLED there is motive ;)

The prosecution argued that Casey murdered her daughter because she took her away from her partying.

Casey was probably responsible some how. The prosecution was asking too much from the jury though.
 

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I'm just glad to see that the jury members had the courage to do the right thing, even knowing that they would be crucified by the rabid masses who were screaming for Casey's blood....
 

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I'm just glad to see that the jury members had the courage to do the right thing, even knowing that they would be crucified by the rabid masses who were screaming for Casey's blood....
I don't know that it was courageous...but they DID do their job correctly. As guilty as I think she was, the state didn't meet the burden of proof, unfortunately.
 

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I don't know that it was courageous...but they DID do their job correctly. As guilty as I think she was, the state didn't meet the burden of proof, unfortunately.

I think that it took some balls to actually do what they knew they had to do, knowing full well what hell was going to come out of it because of the frenzy that the media had whipped the masses into.
 

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I dont think they proved 1st degree murder, but I do believe she should have been charged with child neglect and possibly manslaughter. She admitted to the child drowning and the cover up. Why no charges for this?
 

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I dont think they proved 1st degree murder, but I do believe she should have been charged with child neglect and possibly manslaughter. She admitted to the child drowning and the cover up. Why no charges for this?

You're right, but the prosecution didn't seek those charges. They went after first degree murder without even knowing how she died.

The jury can ONLY decide on the case before them, they cannot add additional charges no matter how they felt. The prosecution fucked up by going for that golden ring when they didn't have enough evidence to convict.
 

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I am reminded of Scott Peterson in all of this, double murder versus single death aside. There was so much circumstantial evidence similar to that in Casey's trial, it's interesting how the two trials resulted differently.
 

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You're right, but the prosecution didn't seek those charges. They went after first degree murder without even knowing how she died.

The jury can ONLY decide on the case before them, they cannot add additional charges no matter how they felt. The prosecution fucked up by going for that golden ring when they didn't have enough evidence to convict.


I agree 100%.
 

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Besides 1st degree murder she was also charged with the lesser charges of aggravated manslaughter and aggravated child abuse. She was found not guilty on everything except lying to police.
 
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