how easy is it to get laid?

[NightWarrior]

I'd like to call the first meeting of the WCWO (world coalition of women ONLY). Any ladies care to join me? Our topic and objective in our 5 year plan is to abolish all men on the planet, except a few choice specimens (brad pitt, david beckham, a few more), and learn how to control our procreation to include only female sexes, except the occasional breeder male for future generations.

If you did that the world would fall apart. Women can't live together first of all. You take men out of the equation and you ladies will be ripping each other apart.

 

[NightWarrior]

That is what a debate is for, if you didn't realize. If you are trying to make a point you need to be able to make it. If you can't .. then your argument is insufficiently founded and therefore invalid.



Of course I would say no, because I have a decently average set of morals.
Plus I would think it was a joke. When I found out you were actually serious .. I would think you as a person were a joke. I would think the same thing about anyone .. and I know many men that would agree with me (regardless of if they will actually own up to actually thinking it in public, meaning away from other men).

If you say yes to any random person who walks up to you .. you take yourself out of the average of normality because your moral standard of decency is lower than what is considered "normal" decency.

If a girl walks up to you and asks you (a complete stranger) point blank to go fuck .. she has problems. You also have problems if you would say yes.
You would be a fool to say yes, just based on social disease spreading for one. She is not an "average" female (or person for that matter). Which takes her out of the ranks of this debate.

Women who go out to get laid do so by flirting inside their parameters. Meaning they surf inside their safe zone, they don't saunter up to the hottest guy in the bar expecting to get him to buyher drinks, much less any action. We are more discrete about it if we are after it. But that discretion also leaves us open to not getting it "that night" .. it usually happens later, after a date.

Which is why our average for getting laid seems higher than men. We have patience to succeed.

Whoa, you give the male race too much credit. The only way a man is going to say no in this instance is if he is gay or the woman is 300lbs. Your fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Can we get back on topic? The point was that women have an easier time getting laid, not what is socially or morally acceptable.

 

[SRC]

she didn't mean you as in YOU audra, she said you (as a woman) generalizing, not personalizing. I think she is right!

yes .. I was generalizing .. just so happened I was responding to you Audra. I watch what goes on around me .. I listen in on peoples converaations while I'm sitting in a bar/club sometimes. I hear how people diss each other for acting "whorish". Men and women BOTH make those comments when women are acting certain ways.

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

Quote:Originally Posted by groundpounder
I'm calling bullshit on your bullshit.

What I'm saying is, if YOU wanted to get laid you could. If ANY woman went out with the intent of getting laid, she's going to find a way to get laid. I'm not talking about going to the bar and waiting for a guy to come around (like most women do, but we won't get into that right now)...

Men ALWAYS have the intent of getting laid when they go out, but more often than not they don't.

I think this is more what we were arguing...your usage of absolutes. You were saying that if ANY woman went out and tried to get laid she could, and we were trying to prove you wrong..not your original point. You also said that men (generalizing, all men), ALWAYS have the intent of getting laid when they go out. Those were the points I had issues with, not your original question.

 

[Suzie]

and you can say this why?:confused

Because everyone may have different ideas on what "average" is. Your idea of average might be some busted guy/girl but that can be someone elses definition of ugly or hot. We can all try and imagine what everyone elses ideas of "average" are but they just might not be the same.

 

[Boomer]

Damn! Good job on this thread GP! It took off like a fuckin wild fire!


I DO believe that women have a bit more control over getting laid than men do. Men can be imoral whores and fucking love it. IF a woman just lays with everyone, she is a slut and no one wants her. So...it may be easier for women to get laid, but its also harder because they dont wanna look like the town bike. I hope some of that made sense.

 

[SRC]

Whoa, you give the male race too much credit. The only way a man is going to say no in this instance is if he is gay or the woman is 300lbs. Your fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

So, if the girl on the left came up and asked you to fuck .. you would grab her purse and say "lets go?"

I think you are fooling yourself when you lump all men into that category. Some men are not that desperate to "get laid". It is not all mens main conern. I am the only girl on either side of my family and I hang out with mostly guys (I'm a car chik) and I go out with mostly men when I go out.

I see how they act and what they do and how they talk (I have a sorta inside perspective on men I guess you could say). The only ones of my friends who are concerned about "sexing it up" like you make this seem .. are the more unattractive ones, the self conscious ones, or the shallow ones.

Men who claim this "theory" that all men are looking for sex and that they'd tag anything walking .. is just that .. a theory. Men fool each other into thinking it is true because most of them don't want to admit they wouldn't and "lose face" in front of their buddies .. and be callled "gay".

 

[Boomer]

DOOOOOD! EDWARD 40 HANDS!! I havent played that in soooooo long!

 

[AUDRAA]

your pic isnt working hun

 

[SRC]

well .. grrr hold on LOL

 

[Butterfly]

SRC, you are argueing morals... but it's all based on your own morals. Mine are very different to yours. And the original question has nothing to do with morals.

 

[SRC]

Sure it is. Everyone has them .. and society as awhole has a set people live by.

The world is run by morals, whether you have them or not.

 

[groundpounder]

I've read through all of this and it has gotten wonderfully out of hand. Open discussion and trading of ideas and ideals FTW!!
This is terrific! Thank you all!!

There are SO MANY intelligent and well thought out points made in this thread that to try to selectively quote, post, and reply to them all at this point would take more time than I have at this particular moment. But I WILL address them.

Tegan, Breakfast, SRC et al: good points made and in some cases, VERY good points made. A few things jump out at me currently, so I would like to address them before I sign off for the rest of the day:

I am sorry for making absolute statements and then saying they're not allowed. That is an unfair way to present a point. I did make absolute statements here in a thread where I am speaking to a general condition. I ask for forgiveness for that. Let me make my point clear here and now: I am speaking in general terms, not absolutes. Please ignore if you can my absolute statements. They muddle the general point that I was trying to make in the beginning. To continue to focus on them as flawed logic really debases the argument in general and takes focus away from the general theory being laid out, and that ironically makes the general truth seem more solid. So please let it go - it was a insular mistake.. It's not germane to the general point.

This thread in its original intent has very little if anything to do with the morality of all of this. I said in the original post:

I'm not saying this is right, wrong, moral/immoral/ammoral, indifferent, good idea/bad idea - I'm just saying....

so let's continue to focus on that. This is an AMMORAL argument. To get to the generalized point at hand, there are several things that have to be left out, the most important of which is personal morality. Biases, experiences, feelings etc HAVE to be left out of the general argument because to introduce them, which I did not, muddles the case. Because we're all different and have different experiences, standards, biases, etc. Particularly to those who think they can infer what my morals and standards are based upon this thread, you give entirely too much credence to your power of perception to typed words on an anonymous internet forum. Be careful with what you think of me and how you think you know I would behave in a given situation based upon what you read in this thread. WAY too much of an overstatement. To those who know me....they know.

I have high morals and standards of behavior. Some of the things being bandied about in this are behavior I would never partake in. Once the morality card was played, the original argument became bastardized and away from its original intent.

I began this thread as a GENERAL, AMMORAL, IMPERSONAL discourse. And from a GENERAL, AMMORAL, IMPERSONAL perspective, I am simply stating that women would have an easier time finding company of the opposite sex than men.

Can we try to go from there?

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

good post GP. What's the question again? haha ive gotten so lost in this argument.

 

[SRC]

From an immoral, indecent perspective .. sure. Women can get laid more. All they have to do is say yes more, they don't have to ask at all.

But most women don't because of what boomer said. We get labled as whores if we do. Guys can get away with it.

 

[Suzie]

I need to get a forum dictionary on hand.

What does FTW mean?

 

[NightWarrior]

I need to get a forum dictionary on hand.

What does FTW mean?

nOOb. It means For The Win!

 

[NightWarrior]

So, if the girl on the left came up and asked you to fuck .. you would grab her purse and say "lets go?"

I think you are fooling yourself when you lump all men into that category. Some men are not that desperate to "get laid". It is not all mens main conern. I am the only girl on either side of my family and I hang out with mostly guys (I'm a car chik) and I go out with mostly men when I go out.

I see how they act and what they do and how they talk (I have a sorta inside perspective on men I guess you could say). The only ones of my friends who are concerned about "sexing it up" like you make this seem .. are the more unattractive ones, the self conscious ones, or the shallow ones.

Men who claim this "theory" that all men are looking for sex and that they'd tag anything walking .. is just that .. a theory. Men fool each other into thinking it is true because most of them don't want to admit they wouldn't and "lose face" in front of their buddies .. and be callled "gay".

I will say this and say it once. Men say whatever they think they should say to women, regardless if you are friends with them or not. This is not a "theory". I went to college, I was in the Marines, I play sports. Guys act different around women (even if you think you are one of the "guys").

Wait, I don't know why I am arguing with you, you are a woman. Women know all.

 

[Suzie]

I love being a "noob"
I guess Ill always be a noob.

 

[AUDRAA]

I will say this and say it once. Men say whatever they think they should say to women, regardless if you are friends with them or not. This is not a "theory". I went to college, I was in the Marines, I play sports. Guys act different around women (even if you think you are one of the "guys").

Wait, I don't know why I am arguing with you, you are a woman. Women know all.

oh that is so sig material