Was I wrong?

[SRC]

If your parents are ok with you drinking alcohol and your underage .. they really don't have any call in getting onto him for doing drugs of any sort.

It would be very hypocritical on their part. And if they are as strict as you say (which doesn't seem to be the case if they are "ok" and "know" that both of you are drinking) they would be kicking both your asses for drinking underage.

And .. isn't school out for the year? I know it is around here. Thursday was everyone's last day .. they've even had all their graduation ceromonies.

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I'm in college, therefore they consider me an adult. He lives at home and is still in HS (until June 8), therefore he is still a child to them. They know I drink, but not that he ever has. He would get in a lot of trouble, because they would have to deal with him. They can just quit paying my tuition and tell me to deal with it. He's not an adult, and I don't think he fully understands the idea behind accepting responsibility for your actions, because my mother has always been two steps behind him making sure nothing ever happens to him.

 

[Ria]

I don't think you are a hypocrite at all - I think the reason you said what you said to your brother, was cos you have been there, done that, learnt by your mistakes and you don't want your brother to go the same way. I also feel you may be thinking "what if he doesn't stop after trying".

I would like to know where the scientific proof is to say alcohol is more harmful that dope?

I have known ppl on just dope alone and each one of them have extreme paranoia, phsycotic tendencies and some of them have hallicinated too! I think you can safely say that dope does alter the mind and it is not safe or safer, to drive on that either.

 

[SRC]

I'm in college, therefore they consider me an adult. He lives at home and is still in HS (until June 8), therefore he is still a child to them. They know I drink, but not that he ever has. He would get in a lot of trouble, because they would have to deal with him. They can just quit paying my tuition and tell me to deal with it. He's not an adult, and I don't think he fully understands the idea behind accepting responsibility for your actions, because my mother has always been two steps behind him making sure nothing ever happens to him.

That makes no sense at all. If your parents are strict .. they wouldn't consider you an "adult" and it be "ok" to drink until you are 21. In college or not.

My parents are strict. I'm 30 and they just found out I drink .. and my mom was none too pleased.

I'm 30 yrs old and I've never known anyone who was "hooked" on pot. I've got several alcoholic friends though.

Pot isn't anymore "dangerous" than alcohol, but alcohol has proven itself to be much more addictive than pot. Kinda like cigarettes. Pot is actually used medicinally .. dunno any doctors who prescribe alcohol, do you?

 

[Ria]

Pot is only used for a few medical conditions, but even so, it is of an entirely different formula of pot - nothing like the street pot that is sold as is told by the medical professions that prescribe it.

I have seen many ppl addicted to pot through life. It is just that you will never get ppl who are on it, say they are addicted, for obvious reasons. Denial is always their defence.

 

[SRC]

Different types of pot? huh? I think you have been misled somewhere. Pot is pot. It all comes from a pot plant. They may have slightly different ways to grow it (like hydro) .. but it's still all pot. It's not like pills.

How do you know they were addicted to pot? It doesn't cause withdrawls like cocaine or pills. You also don't see too many people calling their pot dealer at 2,34 am trying to score another sack of weed. Not to many people enter rehab for pot either .. unless they catch a charge and get court ordered for treatment.

 

[Ria]

Different types of pot? huh? I think you have been misled somewhere. Pot is pot. It all comes from a pot plant. They may have slightly different ways to grow it (like hydro) .. but it's still all pot. It's not like pills.

How do you know they were addicted to pot? It doesn't cause withdrawls like cocaine or pills. You also don't see too many people calling their pot dealer at 2,34 am trying to score another sack of weed. Not to many people enter rehab for pot either .. unless they catch a charge and get court ordered for treatment.

I don't really want to get drawn into pot convo's again, bn there and done that on here a few mths ago now, but no, I have not been misled at all. My points above were to just let HTC know that I understood why she has done what she's done.

Well, regarding you questioning how I knew they were addicted to it, is purely and simply cos I have known them, that's how I know this. It's an ugly sight seeing ppl you know addicted and living mainly for that before all else and the anger they get when they can't score anymore for a day even, let alone longer. They become so anxious and on edge mostly too. I can assure you, there are most definately withdrawls.

I have also had 2 partners on it, so I know very well, how it is addictive, even if I hadn't seen it in others'. They most certainly do actually ring ppl up to try and get some, at all odd hrs of the night.

Denial plays a huge part with those on pot, so no - you are bound to see less in rehab for that.

Well, over here, the stuff in pot that causes the so-called 'high' when smoking it, is extracted and formed into tablet form. That's what happens here. Probably the same over there if you were to look into it.

I have bn there and done it, with regards talking about this subject on another thread somewhere, so don't want to go all over it again.

This isn't the debate board, so it shouldn't carry on here now.

I was more concerned about being a shoulder for HTC though, as she is needing some support.

 

[SRC]

That's cool, if that's what you are trying to do but I totally disagree. I've smoked pot (did it a lot back when I was younger) and I've never had any of that, neither did any of my friends (and there were lots of us doing it back then). Nothing personal, but I just don't buy it.

/end of my side of the conversation, since this isn't "the place" for it.

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

FS, I've had medical grade marijuana before...and you're right, it's NOT the same...its MUCHHHHH more potent...OMG.....go look at what pot has won the cannabis cup for the last few years..yep, thats right...medical grade strands that have been altered.

 

[Tegan]

I still find it funny how little people know about cannabis, but keep talking like they are speaking fact.

Hint: It's been scientifically proven that cannabis has no physical addiction effects, none. Unlike alcohol.

The idea of being addicted to pot is an absolute joke. Your idea that they were addicted and just denying it is almost insulting, especially when people smarter than you or I have said cannabis has no addicting effects.

If you meant mental addiction, you can get mentally addicted to ANYTHING. Sex, food, the Internet, video games. Everything has a mental addiction component when used to fill an emotional void.

I would tell you that I've never been, nor known anyone, addicted to cannabis, but you would just tell me we were all denying it. I have probably hung out with quite a few more potheads than you as well. I guess the DEA's campaign of lies, mis-truths and FUD really did work with pot. People actually believe that crap they spew.

 

[chrisbrownlver62]

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[Ria]

I still find it funny how little people know about cannabis, but keep talking like they are speaking fact.

Hint: It's been scientifically proven that cannabis has no physical addiction effects, none. Unlike alcohol.

I haven't suggested alcohol isn't addictive - then again, the same applies - not everyone is addicted, same as with pot.​

As I asked someone above, before - where is the literature on scientific findings that pot is not addictive? Pls post it for me to take a look at.

All scientific findings are printed. It needs to be from a proper source too, not the internet - that's not reliable all the time. Anyone can place info true or not, on the internet.​

The idea of being addicted to pot is an absolute joke. Your idea that they were addicted and just denying it is almost insulting, especially when people smarter than you or I have said cannabis has no addicting effects.

No, not insulting, plenty do deny - another of my friends is currently going through the same scenario as I had to - her husband is addicted and is struggling to admit this and to come off it. He has had many psychotic behavioural moments and she was on verge of leaving him for it. Only now, is he attemting an effort to give it up, but he won't seek help, therefore it will be even harder for him.​

As I asked someone above, before - where is the literature on scientific findings that pot is not addictive? Pls post it for me to take a look at.

All scientific findings are printed. It needs to be from a proper source too, not the internet - that's not reliable all the time. Anyone can place info true or not, on the internet.​

I have probably hung out with quite a few more potheads than you as well.

I doubt it, I am 43 and have gone from the 60's to now. I know what I am on about. Apart from knowing ppl on it, as I said, I also had to put up with 2 partners on it - I do know what what's what.​

 

[GraceAbounds]

I smoked tons of pot in my younger years. And being that I am going to school in the medical field, I've done a bit of reading on drugs.

When I look at what I've personally experienced and educationally learned and put it together - this is my take: Pot has physical effects like increasing your heartbeat and pulse, which depending on your health can harm you. It causes you to have blood shot eyes, cottonmouth, and a dry throat, of which isn't going to kill you. But when you get a ice cold soda going on when you have cottonmouth going on, it does feel like heaven.

Mentally, pot impairs and reduces short term memory, it screws with one's sense of time and the ability to do things which require concentration, quick reaction, and coordination. As with many mind altering substances, prescription or street drugs, one should not operate a vehicle. I got in a car accident when I was high because my reaction time sucked.

People can and have suffered from panic attacks, extreme cases of fear, and a sense of loss of control due to being high. Long term pot smokers are at risk of becoming psychologically dependent on pot. They also build a tolerance to pot and need more to achieve the same buzz. Over time, most long term pot smokers develop problems with their jobs and relationships, as the drug becomes more important to them than healthy priorities are.

The younger a person is when they start smoking pot, the more likely it is that they will go on to try harder drugs. Also with younger users they are less likely to be motivated to strive for goals, thus not doing their schoolwork. Smoking pot interferes with learning because it impairs thinking, reading comprehension, and verbal and mathematical skills. When one is high it is hard to remember what they've learned.

Smoking pot in and of itself is not horrible. What is bad is that it is against the law and there are consequences for breaking the law. And suffering the consequences are just not worth it. Also when smoking pot leads to the more severe problems mentioned above, one can not get back lost time when they realize they have screwed up.

I hope you are continuing to look out for your brother and that everything regarding this situation has been resolved for the best.