Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PWs

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

There's a line. I think this crosses it just a bit.
 
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oh i know it is just cheaper

to run a Top Secret check on someone in the Canadian Fed govt costs $ 1000s, because of the time and resources required to conduct those interviews, imagine the benefits to an employer who might spend an hour browsing FB to decide if they even proceed with such a process, so teh FB access is simply a tool to help in maanagement decison making

I don't think the government would ever be happy with just a Facebook account for information. And I can't think of another profession where you would need to know that much about a person's personal life to even consider it.
 

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none of the above is but, if you often post pictures of yourself drinking, if you regularly switch partners, if you make political statements publically, some employers will think twich before hgiring you into a position that requires high level security clearances, anyone who has served in the military will know what i refer to

I've creeped every application I've received in the past few years for exactly this, I would never ask for a password or ask someone to log on so I can view what they have 'private' but if it's out there, sure, why not? If they have a great resume and the experience I'm looking for, I wouldn't put them in the 'no' pile because they're shitfaced in a few (or a lot) pics, but c'mon, that's the world we live in folks, you should not post what you don't want scrutinized or make damn good and sure it's well protected.
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

There's a line. I think this crosses it just a bit.

I can understand deeper probing into the lives of folks who would be in security sensitive work. However, if I'm applying to drive a garbage truck, I don't think they need to read my Facebook page. They can check with my previous employers and non-family associates, as per standard practice, and call it good!
 

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I just think it's a matter of drawing the line.

If someone does something stupid in public, and it bites them in the ass, okay. If someone posts something stupid on facebook, someone sees it, and alerts that person's boss or whatever, than okay. If you come across stupid things that someone put on the internet, then once again, okay.

But

When someone asks for your password to facebook or whatever, they're essentially inviting themselves into your personal life. Whether or not facebook can be viewed by the public, is a different matter. Many people have settings so that certain people only see certain things. This is so that they can filter what they want to share. Just like how you act differently around your friends, than you do your boss, or your parents, thann you do your co-workers or classmates. Getting someone's facebook password gives you the power to blur that line. In my opinion, it's not much different than opening someone else's mail, or looking through someones things inside their home. When it comes down to it, certain things are intended for certain people, and certain things are not.

And, I don't think it's really a matter of "I don't have anything to hide either". Even if we don't have anything to hide, we still have somethings we tell/disclose to some people that we don't want other people to know. It's basically the essence of choosing what you say AND who you say it to.

Part of the problem is that technology moves so fast and blurs that line to begin with. Our expectations and rules etc. need time to catch up. Or maybe we're just entering a new era that is irreversible.

Who knows. Ending my ramble now. :D
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

This. When I was on active duty I had a TS / SCI and they interviewed my kindergarten teacher.

We had some scary looking men in black show up at our house a few years ago asking questions about our next door neighbor. I don't think "ummm, he has a lot of children and I think he's Mormon" helped their quest much. :dunno I have no problem w/ someone probing my life...but that shit is crazy. I actually trashed an application for a dispatch position w/ the State Patrol when I got their 32 page background packet. I had to drive to Atlanta to take their aptitude test, submit to a polygraph, and fill out a 32 page background packet...all for a part-time position paying $10 per hour (a hefty amount less than what I was making at my current job). FUCK THAT!!!
 

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We had some scary looking men in black show up at our house a few years ago asking questions about our next door neighbor. I don't think "ummm, he has a lot of children and I think he's Mormon" helped their quest much.

They were probably just confirming that he lived there. One of the places we lived was done being built so we had no neighbors. We had to come up with people not related to us that had visited to say "Yes they lived there and yes, for that time period."
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

to be fair I was referring to the number given to you to access your bank account. The 5 digit number you give the teller to withdraw money.
 

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to be fair I was referring to the number given to you to access your bank account. The 5 digit number you give the teller to withdraw money.

Are you talking about a PIN??? I don't have to give my PIN to a teller EVER. :dunno
 

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The teller's don't need your PIN because they're already logged into your account by inputting the other stuff.

Which is also why you don't give your PIN to anyone, not even someone purporting to be from your bank.
 

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No way in hell I'm giving login info and passwords to anyone for anything, let alone a prospective employer. A great many of them already do credit checks, traditional background checks, drug testing, etc. Thankfully for the private sector polygraphs are no longer legal. And if you ever go for a public job that requires one, Google "The Lie Behind the Lie Detector" first. Made the mistake of going in cold for one of those once, because I didn't want to appear deceitful, and that was a horrible mistake.
 

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Are you talking about a PIN??? I don't have to give my PIN to a teller EVER. :dunno

The teller's don't need your PIN because they're already logged into your account by inputting the other stuff.

Which is also why you don't give your PIN to anyone, not even someone purporting to be from your bank.

PIN number is only four digits though.

This mystery just keeps getting deeper!
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

to be fair I was referring to the number given to you to access your bank account. The 5 digit number you give the teller to withdraw money.
Are you talking about a PIN??? I don't have to give my PIN to a teller EVER. :dunno
The teller's don't need your PIN because they're already logged into your account by inputting the other stuff.

Which is also why you don't give your PIN to anyone, not even someone purporting to be from your bank.

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

If a potential employer asks for login details for FB or anything else similar...I am busting his nose
Now if he asks can I add you so I can see blah blah thats a little different..the reply will be no and I merely walk out
I am not working for anyone who wants to treat his employees like they are 6 years old.
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

An employer should be allowed to ask for just about anything. Nobody has to comply. Unfortunately, we've created such a society of compliant sheep that most people equate a request with force, and think they are being forced to obey.
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

An employer should be allowed to ask for just about anything. Nobody has to comply. Unfortunately, we've created such a society of compliant sheep that most people equate a request with force, and think they are being forced to obey.

It's simple, you don't want to work there, you don't give out the info.

Now, anyone can ask me for my FB login info because I don't have one LOL

Only one time dealing with Facebook in the workplace. I was a new employee a couple years ago and a guy in management was in his office on Facebook. That told me that he has too much time on his hands, because if he can be on the computer during his "working hours" for personal crap on the computer, he didn't have enough work to do. Couple months later, he got canned. Kicker was, the $%*&#$ idiot took a couple of sick days off and posted on his FB that he was partying, WITH pictures. That's not what did him in completely, but it didn't help his case (not that you need a case with North Carolina's employment laws).

Depending on the business/industry and what your position in within the company, I could see why some companies could be concerned about exactly what information is being given out about the people they employ.
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

If one busts a perspective employer's nose.......I don't think one will make the best qualified list.............:p
 

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Re: Proposed laws would forbid employers from asking for job seekers' social media PW

If one busts a perspective employer's nose.......I don't think one will make the best qualified list.............:p
what is all this "one" stuff

you sound the like the queen of fucking england :)
 
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