So what happens if at a forum like this and the members you've easily grown attached with and mainly trusted are fellow believers but in the end would be the first ones to chastise you and be unforgiving?? Seemingly through their actions they dont go by the flow to protect their fellow Christians or understand them instead go with the flow of other non-believers ? I mean no one is perfect hence the forgiveness bit. So how is one able to separate that from being too righteous against one's fellow believers? Judgmental? How is one able to balance that with bible teachings? How can one understand the rationale behind that ??
If the first people to make you lose trust in this forum are fellow believers, how is one able to trust others with same faith more so unbelievers for that matter?
I do remember that you posted that in one of the threads in Religion. What I have always wondered though is: If someone at a forum like this- the other believers don't defend their faith as SSadie mentioned. And am understanding your explanation a bit-however, how would the people who don't speak up ( even if maybe they pray which is only God knows of course) how will we/they be able to answer when that time comes and Jesus asks: What have you done for me?....or Jesus is also gonna reject us and say- "I dont know you coz you've not done your part to defend me or defend your brothers/sisters" ( I know there's a story like this in the Bible)
This is a hard topic for me Dove. It is always much easier to go with the flow instead of taking a stand. Many do not want to stir the pot and would rather remain on the good side of the masses instead of taking a stand and defending their belief - even if that means turning a blind eye. I know how frustrating this is and can be. However, in a forum, it's difficult. Some feel that it is pointless to get involved in discussions of faith and God in a forum. Most discussions of faith in a forum can become counterproductive. Most pastors that I know refuse to even join a forum for that reason. They prefer spreading the word to those who want to and are willing to listen.
I think there is a point when discussing and defending one's faith can become argumentative and chastising. I think some Christians avoid these discussions for that very reason. Some here in OTz are Christians, but prefer to take it from this approach - (after a church service, if there is anyone that needs prayer, is seeking God and has questions, or wants to accept Jesus as their personal savior - they are there to pray for/with them, answer their questions and help them find God.) These people aren't the "pastor", just someone who is there to help them and help them get there if they want to.
There is a difference between spreading the word of God, defending our faith, and arguing.
Unless God is drawing that person who is a non-believer, they are not going to listen. (
John 6:44)
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day."
If you are witnessing to someone and you feel you have exhausted all your efforts and they still deny the truth, God says to back off and go your way. (
Luke 9:5)
"If people do not welcome you, leave their town and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.”
Put them in God's hands. He can deal with them much better than we can. (
Psalm 35:1)
"Plead my cause, O LORD, with those who strive with me; Fight against those who fight against me."
Jesus himself did not argue. (
Matthew 12:19)
"He will not quarrel or cry out; no one will hear his voice in the streets."
Does that mean we should never discuss our faith with non-believers, or answer questions that they may have, or even give evidence of Christianity? Not at all! (
1 Peter 3:15)
" But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"
If the person you are trying to witness to has no questions, and only answers - you are using up valuable time that could be used to witness to someone who is honestly seeking. They are not being drawn by God at that time. Plant the seed and move on.
Christians can disagree on some things in a gentle and respectful way, and we'll all find out that we are wrong on some things and right on others. But who is the final authority? God is! Through His word! Without His word, it's just another person's opinion against another's. That doesn't mean we should give up, when we have nothing left to say - we pray!
Having said that...I know exactly where you and SS are coming from. The difficulty with debating God is that you never know who is listening. Many people choose not to comment. I'm torn on this subject. I sometimes choose not to debate with the "usual crowd". However, I feel that I must confront error since I have no way of knowing who is listening. I feel that my silence in the face of error and sometimes - outright heresy could signal to anyone "lurking" that I agree with the detractors. I struggle with between a desire of avoiding pointless debate and offering another side and confronting error. So I pick and choose my battles - but it is a dilemma. We just need to remain gentle and respectful with out we share the Gospel and not risk pushing someone away.
Regardless of the setting, we MUST present the Gospel, because there are always those on the fringe of the crowd who may actually be listening and taking heart to what we're saying...what God is saying through us. And it could be that one person on the fringe who God set us out among the wolves to reach that day. His word will not return void. It will accomplish whatever He sent it out to accomplish; hopefully to draw a soul to redemption.