Should children be punished for their parents sins and crimes?

[Greatest I am]

Should children be punished for their parents sins and crimes?

God seems to think so.

Yet if you ask almost any parent or person, they would reject such a notion and thus break God’s first commandment by placing their philosophy in this issue above God’s. Most people would not follow what they would see as God’s immoral example. Can good people then not be good Christians if they will not follow God‘s ways in this issue?
Rather a catch 22.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI&NR=1

You will know that as you read this O P, 16,000 people starve to death daily. Most of these are children. Do the math and you will see that as many starve yearly as the number of Jews that Hitler massacred.
Every year my friend, this carnage continues.
God nor Man seems to venerate human life to any great extent.
It can be said that man cannot do more about this situation than what he is already doing.
God does not have that excuse.
Some foolish thinkers will point to free will as his excuse but then would have to explain all the other times in scripture where God ignores our free will to live as he kills us.
If he can do so to kill us then surly he can do so to save us.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TurpisHaereticus#p/u/2/k88ntaUXP2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpJ8PGT2yY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FKn4rKXEY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/user/TurpisHaereticus#p/u/22/_g52sX8PgX8

Just to hurt your mind as you ponder this question.
God seems to overcome evil with evil even as.
Romans 12:21. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
God also punishes children for the deeds of their parents even as,
Ezekiel 18:20. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Is God a just God?
Is God a good God?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Pfft, that is not up to you is it?

 

[Dana]

Should you stop making threads? :nod:

 

[Tuffdisc]

Should you stop making threads? :nod:

He should, he should also get out and about and cheer up, we have only one life :24:

 

[BornReady]

God nor Man seems to venerate human life to any great extent.
It can be said that man cannot do more about this situation than what he is already doing.
God does not have that excuse.
Some foolish thinkers will point to free will as his excuse but then would have to explain all the other times in scripture where God ignores our free will to live as he kills us.
If he can do so to kill us then surly he can do so to save us.

The free will argument to explain evil in the world is BS. No civilized society gives people the free will to do evil. Break the law, suffer the consequence. If the law and punishment are just then that is right and nobody gives a shit whether it violates the perpetrator's free will.

Pfft, that is not up to you is it?

I hope you're not saying it's okay to punish children for the sins of their parents.

 

[Tuffdisc]

The free will argument to explain evil in the world is BS. No civilized society gives people the free will to do evil. Break the law, suffer the consequence. If the law and punishment are just then that is right and nobody gives a shit whether it violates the perpetrator's free will.


I hope you're not saying it's okay to punish children for the sins of their parents.

I'm happy to say it ok to forgive just like Christ said

 

[darkangel]

The free will argument to explain evil in the world is BS. No civilized society gives people the free will to do evil. Break the law, suffer the consequence..

And all this time I thought it was God who gave us Free Will not society. Society only tells you how far you can push that Free Will.

 

[BornReady]

I'm happy to say it ok to forgive just like Christ said

Why would it even be necessary to forgive children for something their parents did?

And all this time I thought it was God who gave us Free Will not society. Society only tells you how far you can push that Free Will.

Free will isn't really something you give. It's something you take. And I think God or society is justified in taking it to the degree necessary to prevent people from harming others, such as murder, rape, and torture.

 

[dkwrtw]

Should I have bothered reading this thread? *puts Greatest I Am on ignore*

 

[NuckingFuts]

Who in thier right mind would think that anyone, let alone a child should be punished for what someone else did?

 

[Peter Parka]

I hope this is a rhetorical question!

 

[darkangel]

Free will isn't really something you give. It's something you take. And I think God or society is justified in taking it to the degree necessary to prevent people from harming others, such as murder, rape, and torture.

God gave every single one of us free will. He gave it to us. It is not something that is taken. I don't see your logic behind your words. So you just stated that God should pull people off earth to prevent violent crimes. Society handles that not God.

 

[pjbleek]

thought this was the food thread....guess I was wrong

 

[pjbleek]

its funny because I am watching Raiders of the lost ark on television right now..

 

[BornReady]

So you just stated that God should pull people off earth to prevent violent crimes. Society handles that not God.

I agree God doesn't stop people from preventing violent crimes. But I'm not talking about how things are. I'm talking about how they should be. Yes, God should stop people from committing violent crimes. And no, he wouldn't have to go so far as put them off the planet. Probably just sneaking up behind them and saying boo would be enough.

 

[Greatest I am]

Who in thier right mind would think that anyone, let alone a child should be punished for what someone else did?

Numbers 14:18

18 ‘The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’

Are you saying that the Bible was written by someone not in their right mind?

Regards
DL

 

[pjbleek]

Numbers 14:18

18 ‘The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’

Are you saying that the Bible was written by someone not in their right mind?

Regards
DL

do you not see everyone has their opinion and just because it does not go to your way they are automatically wrong?
is the bible not an oral history? maybe the translator didn't hear what was exactly said? or maybe you just have this way of thinking the Bible is literally suffers from hand in foot disease?

 

[Greatest I am]

God gave every single one of us free will. He gave it to us. It is not something that is taken. I don't see your logic behind your words. So you just stated that God should pull people off earth to prevent violent crimes. Society handles that not God.

You are completely free at this point in time to do whatever crime or sin you wish.
You do not take that freedom do you?

Freedom is taken. it cannot be given.

Do you recall what happened when the U S ended slavery. The people gave freedom to all slaves yet some slaves did not take it and remained in bondage.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

do you not see everyone has their opinion and just because it does not go to your way they are automatically wrong?
is the bible not an oral history? maybe the translator didn't hear what was exactly said? or maybe you just have this way of thinking the Bible is literally suffers from hand in foot disease?

Either opine on the O P or go away.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Why would it even be necessary to forgive children for something their parents did?

Who said about forgiving children in this matter? I never said that, so please stop misconstrue everything I say