Liverpool FC rumours

[Springsteen]

This is true, although with Torres and Gerrard most likely leaving the players will pretty much all be shit.

Sure the other teams have shit players, but Liverpool's shit is the shittiest shit of all the shit.

I mean...Lucas? Check his fucking passport, he is not and never has been Brazilian. N'Gog is a horrible player, Riera, Babel, Rodriguez are average wingers, Kyriakos is the worst defender I've ever seen, Johnson's overrated, Insua's average, Skrtel's a Vidic/Vermaelen lite version, Carragher turns slower than the QE2.

So yeah, get rid of about 15 players, spend the money wisely (well you'd better, your only getting £5m and some condoms) and build a team.

And your point about Internationals means jack shit. Stephen Guivarch was an International, Emile Heskey is an Intenational, Nicklas Bendtner is an international.

 

[Zorak]

Most of these mediocre players were internationals, most if all of what we have would just leave the club, leaving us with nowt

lol, doesn't change the fact they're rubbish mate. Torres and Insua might both have caps for their country, but that doesn't mean they're equals! :24: I think Alen Hansen said it best about Insua: "He's the only full back I've ever seen who can't defend OR attack!"

If they all do leave the club, which they won't of course - i don't really know why you think that.. It would hardly be a great loss. I doubt Mr Hodgson will be losing much sleep over night about how he will use the £80 milion he'd get for Torres, the £15 million he'd get for Gerrard, and the £30 million for Mascherano.

And I'm even more positive that he certainly won't lose any sleep over how he might replace the talents of Babel, Lucas, Insua, Dossena, N'Gog, Riera, etc etc

 

[Tuffdisc]

And get rubbish players because all they are going to do is feed a debt?

 

[Zorak]

Hardly Hodgson's fault. And probably exactly why he is the right man for the job.

What would you rather, sell a few players for stupid amounts of money? Or end up like Leeds, because that's the way its going right now.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Torres isn't exactly going to be sold for £80million, there are speculation he is going for less than half that, plus Riera was a good player until the management messed up

And we are after a second rated goalkeeper Hennessey? What kind of jokers do we have in charge at the moment? Pfft, if the rumours are true, I am no longer supporting Liverpool, I will be a neutral supporter of football if that is the case

 

[Springsteen]

Were you moaning by any chance when Liverpool empployed the likes of Charles Itanje and Chris Kirkland in net? Because they are second rate goalkeepers whichever way you want to spin it.

But sure, abandon your club all you want. Despite the fact there will come in any fans life good times and bad times. It's just bad at the moment. But while you'll never challenge for the league title again, it certainly should get better.

 

[Tuffdisc]

They were hardly ever used, it just seems the board wants to make it worse by wanting Hogdson, he has nothing to go with....Switzerland did a good job in the World Cup without him, Fulham were always going to survive from getting relegated from the Premiership. Last season, whoppee, an one season wonder in the Europa League doesn't mean anything

 

[Zorak]

They were hardly ever used, it just seems the board wants to make it worse by wanting Hogdson, he has nothing to go with....Switzerland did a good job in the World Cup without him, Fulham were always going to survive from getting relegated from the Premiership. Last season, whoppee, an one season wonder in the Europa League doesn't mean anything

You really know nothing about football I'm afraid.

How you can judge a manager is crap because Switzerland are doing ok still is beyond me. Especially since he managed them 15 or so years ago. That's an entirely different generation of footballers!

And Fulham were not always going to survive, if you had any memory or knew anything about football you'd remember what an awful mess that Lawrie Sanchez and Chris Coleman left them in.

 

[Tuffdisc]

You really know nothing about football I'm afraid.

How you can judge a manager is crap because Switzerland are doing ok still is beyond me. Especially since he managed them 15 or so years ago. That's an entirely different generation of footballers!

And Fulham were not always going to survive, if you had any memory or knew anything about football you'd remember what an awful mess that Lawrie Sanchez and Chris Coleman left them in.

I do know about football actually, Switzerland are doing ok without him, they have qualified for this year's final without him

 

[Springsteen]

They were hardly ever used, it just seems the board wants to make it worse by wanting Hogdson, he has nothing to go with....Switzerland did a good job in the World Cup without him, Fulham were always going to survive from getting relegated from the Premiership. Last season, whoppee, an one season wonder in the Europa League doesn't mean anything

Totally missed the point. He took Switzerland to the 1994 WC and Euro 96 with a very good record in qualifying.

And he's done a very good job at Fulham and had they kept Sanchez in 2007 they'd have gone down.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Totally missed the point. He took Switzerland to the 1994 WC and Euro 96 with a very good record in qualifying.

And he's done a very good job at Fulham and had they kept Sanchez in 2007 they'd have gone down.

So where are Switzerland without him? Are they not in this year's WC?

 

[Springsteen]

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

The point is he did a good job with Switzerland while he was there. And it's a fact, he did.

 

[Zorak]

And he's done an unparralelled job at Fulham.
And he did well at Inter Milan, without ever being given a fair shot really.

In fact, he's done well wherever he has gone, bar perhaps Blackburn Rovers, but then again he wasn't given enough time there either.

Frankly tuffdisc, your arguements are flimsy at best. Switzerland 15 years ago weren't even close to the team they are today. Not to take away from the current Swiss manager, because he's done a good job too, but the players he's working with are all playing at the top level in major nations. Whereas most of Hodgson's players were Swiss based, a lot coming from his Grasshopper team (With whom he was incredibley successful too!)

I reckon you'd be better off just doing a little reading about the bloke and seeing the success he's had all over the world with clubs in a similar position to Liverpool. Rather than continually spouting off a lot of rubbish about how the Swiss are doing ok now, which makes absolutely no fucking sense. :thumbdown

 

[Tuffdisc]

THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

The point is he did a good job with Switzerland while he was there. And it's a fact, he did.

And he's done an unparralelled job at Fulham.
And he did well at Inter Milan, without ever being given a fair shot really.

In fact, he's done well wherever he has gone, bar perhaps Blackburn Rovers, but then again he wasn't given enough time there either.

Frankly tuffdisc, your arguements are flimsy at best. Switzerland 15 years ago weren't even close to the team they are today. Not to take away from the current Swiss manager, because he's done a good job too, but the players he's working with are all playing at the top level in major nations. Whereas most of Hodgson's players were Swiss based, a lot coming from his Grasshopper team (With whom he was incredibley successful too!)

I reckon you'd be better off just doing a little reading about the bloke and seeing the success he's had all over the world with clubs in a similar position to Liverpool. Rather than continually spouting off a lot of rubbish about how the Swiss are doing ok now, which makes absolutely no fucking sense. :thumbdown

Imo, anyone can do a good job managing Switzerland, he has not won anything of major in Europe, Switzerland are not exactly a powerbase of Europe, it probably was just luck of the draw i.e. other easy teams in the qualifying rounds

 

[Springsteen]

he has not won anything of major in Europe, Switzerland are not exactly a powerbase of Europe, it probably was just luck of the draw i.e. other easy teams in the qualifying rounds

Who cares? He did a good job with them. They were ranked third best in the world at one point under him, so he must have been doing something right.

You might not like Hodgson but he's a much better bet than Dalglish who is not up to date with what the current Premier League requires. Sure it could be learnt but Liverpool could be in a worse state then.

Not that I care, Liverpool are shit.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Doing a good job just doesn't cut it in today's footie...third best? Switzerland? Doubt that very much indeed

 

[Springsteen]

Well they were, it's undeniable fact, in August 1993.

And what the fuck would you know about manager's doing a good job? Rafa's done shit by your logic. They won two trophies where they drew and lucked out on penalties and have done next to nothing in the Premier League.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Well they were, it's undeniable fact, in August 1993.

And what the fuck would you know about manager's doing a good job? Rafa's done shit by your logic. They won two trophies where they drew and lucked out on penalties and have done next to nothing in the Premier League.

I don't even get why you are saying that Hogdson is a good manager, yet you don't support Liverpool, weird to say the least

 

[Springsteen]

Hodgson is a good manager, he has done well with unfashionable clubs. He got Switzerland to two tournaments (remember, they drew 1-1 with England at Euro 96).

With Fulham he's got good players to play, he's got Zamora scoring, he got players like Murphy, Dempsey, Hangeland and Etuhu to play well, hje got them to a European final, he's beaten the likes of Man United, Arsenal and indeed Liverpool.

So to say he isn't a good manager is a crock of shit and you have to have some kind of mental retardation to think anything else.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Hodgson is a good manager, he has done well with unfashionable clubs. He got Switzerland to two tournaments (remember, they drew 1-1 with England at Euro 96).

With Fulham he's got good players to play, he's got Zamora scoring, he got players like Murphy, Dempsey, Hangeland and Etuhu to play well, hje got them to a European final, he's beaten the likes of Man United, Arsenal and indeed Liverpool.

So to say he isn't a good manager is a crock of shit and you have to have some kind of mental retardation to think anything else.

England despite all the hype, were a bad team, he got into a European final, only because some players were simply concentrating on not getting injured, due to the World cup, you say that Liverpool were shite last season, I have no qualms in admitting that, that is what you get for beating that team, doesn't mean he is a good manager