Well?

[Tyler Durden]

Twas the talk of the office today. A young lady from South Africa won the Womens 800m in the World Championships in Germany....however now sex tests are going to take place to establish the sex of the protagonist.

I understand that, if a man undergoes a sex change, then he is still considered a man in terms of these events.

So what's other peoples "take" on this athlete and the story

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/08/19/image5252337.jpg

 

[Margene]

If she was born a man, she's a man. Sex change hormones and "bob" do not change the adavantage her DNA gave her at birth. She shouldn't be competing against women.

 

[pjbleek]

reminded me of the 1972 olympics when they were testing the Germans...fearing they were "cheating"

 

[Tyler Durden]

Does anyone remember the same suspicions about Czech athlete (and STILL holder of many records) from the 80s Jarmilla Kratochvilova?

 

[Margene]

Does anyone remember the same suspicions about Czech athlete (and STILL holder of many records) from the 80s Jarmilla Kratochvilova?

No, I don't. Did they test "her"?

I do remember the controversy about Renee Richards in the 70's. (American tennis).

 

[Tyler Durden]

No, I don't. Did they test "her"?

I do remember the controversy about Renee Richards in the 70's. (American tennis).

This was Kratochvilova in her athletic days

http://www.mundoatletismo.com/Site/images/jarmilakratochvilova1max.jpg

 

[Peter Parka]

*Ahem*

http://www.offtopicz.net/49642-caster-semenya-man.html

Need a catchy title asking if someone is a man if you want to get all the hits. :thumbup

 

[Margene]

This was Kratochvilova in her athletic days

http://www.mundoatletismo.com/Site/images/jarmilakratochvilova1max.jpg

Of for gosh sakes! "She" looks like a man! :ninja I wouldn't doubt there would be some questions. I guess since you said she still holds records, they either didn't test her or "she" passed, but dude! That is one manly looking female. If she was a weight lifter, ok, I could see her arms looking like that, but a runner? Nope, women don't "muscle up" like that!

 

[Tyler Durden]

Of for gosh sakes! "She" looks like a man! :ninja I wouldn't doubt there would be some questions. I guess since you said she still holds records, they either didn't test her or "she" passed, but dude! That is one manly looking female. If she was a weight lifter, ok, I could see her arms looking like that, but a runner? Nope, women don't "muscle up" like that!

Strangely Kratochvilova looks far more feminine now

http://mm.denik.cz/1/73/123_jarmila_kratochvilova_atletika_bezecka_denik_clanek_solo.jpg

 

[JanieDough]

does it really matter???

why can't men and women compete together?

 

[Margene]

does it really matter???

why can't men and women compete together?

Because they are faster and stronger. It's not a level playing field. Doing that would eliminate women from competitive sports.

 

[JanieDough]

Because they are faster and stronger. It's not a level playing field. Doing that would eliminate women from competitive sports.

really though? I am sure there are SOME things we do better. We aren't faster than them?

Guys - when you run - how does your penis and balls not slow you down?

I would think we would have the advantage there...

 

[Codrus]

usually they are kept in the forward/center position by a cup

 

[JanieDough]

usually they are kept in the forward/center position by a cup

even when you run?


i didn't know that

I know this is slightly perverse and a little off topic, but I always wonder what you guys do with those things. My first real boyfriend was amused when I asked him to do certain things naked so I could see where it all went...

yeah I can't believe I am admitting that...

 

[Margene]

really though? I am sure there are SOME things we do better. We aren't faster than them?

Guys - when you run - how does your penis and balls not slow you down?

I would think we would have the advantage there...

No, we do not run faster than them.

Compare womens' records: Track & Field News: Records


to mens': Track & Field News: Records


We have no athletic advantages over men. They are more muscular in the right way so as to be faster, jump higher and so forth.

 

[JanieDough]

damn men! they are good at so many things...

 

[Margene]

damn men! they are good at so many things...

But we are too. We are built to complement each other, do each do the stuff the other is not good at.

It's just not athletics that we are good at.

 

[JanieDough]

like i said i am sure there are some athletic things we are better at....


tennis? swimming? gymnastics?

 

[Margene]

like i said i am sure there are some athletic things we are better at....


tennis? swimming? gymnastics?

Nope, nothing athletic. Individual women may be better than some invidual men, but as a group, men are more athletic.

Compare swimming. Swimming Women World Records


Women cannot play better tennis, men serve faster and stronger. Gymnastics, the events do not have parity.

 

[JanieDough]

not even the venus and serena people?