zeitgeist

[dt3]

lol... we have come a long way with technology since then, at least in my opinion.. let me ask u this. what happens when the values that u believe in so strongly destroy this planet, and make no mistake at this rate our great grand children wont be able to survive on this planet. currency is the cause for all pollution on the planet.. if it were cheap the planet would be pretty darn clean dont u agree? think to the future my friend.. what we do now influences te rest of history

Yeah, the planet would be clean. Then the only worries our children would have is whether or not they'll be eaten by a wild animal or if they die from a disease we would no longer have the knowledge to fight. Sounds wonderful.

 

[Anie]

explain ur defintion of equilibrium to me please?

Basically a regime ruling over people, making sure they don't show emotion, feeling, or anything of that sort. Art, music, books will have to be eliminated in the society as well.

 

[vennus4purity]

and what do u base ur opinion that we couldnt fight diseases on? solar,wind,wave,and steam power hold enough energy to power our planet for the rest of its existence.. our planet can power itself with no pollution forever

 

[vennus4purity]

i disagree. how free do u really believe that u are today, and where did u get that idea? there would be no government. just a society of free people, completely free.

 

[dt3]

and what do u base ur opinion that we couldnt fight diseases on? solar,wind,wave,and steam power hold enough energy to power our planet for the rest of its existence.. our planet can power itself with no pollution forever

You said nobody would work. Therefore we would have no doctors. And if we DID have doctors, there would be no way to compensate them for their work, which would remove the primary reason people work in the first place. Not to mention finding someone willing to teach future generations to be doctors, without being paid to do so. Not to mention the expenses associated with medical research.

Without money, or some form of compensation, society would collapse. There would be no incentive to build cars, practice medicine, write books, or anything.

 

[vennus4purity]

explain why we would need a government in a society without currency?

 

[Anie]

i disagree. how free do u really believe that u are today, and where did u get that idea? there would be no government. just a society of free people, completely free.

No matter where the hell you are in time... leadership, power, greed will exist, no society can be perfect and hell I embrace that. :thumbup

 

[vennus4purity]

once again technology can put ur worries to rest... it is unknown to most people that a scientifically engineered machine can perform and operation with 10 times the success rate.. but once again currency is what makes this unavailable to most... it just costs too much

 

[Anie]

once again technology can put ur worries to rest... it is unknown to most people that a scientifically engineered machine can perform and operation with 10 times the success rate.. but once again currency is what makes this unavailable to most... it just costs too much

Too dependant on technology though, if a society is free then why the fuck would you want to gain knowledge and experience, those skills will be lost, technology doesn't last forever as well, but meh...

 

[vennus4purity]

well i agree that society may never be perfect but to embrace the things that you just mentioned is just not wise.. besides leadership to a degree.. greed is certainly not a desirable trait in somebody and power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

 

[dt3]

once again technology can put ur worries to rest... it is unknown to most people that a scientifically engineered machine can perform and operation with 10 times the success rate.. but once again currency is what makes this unavailable to most... it just costs too much

:24: So in our perfect society, robots will do all the work for the humans???

Who's going to manufacture the parts for the machines for free? Who's going to build the machines for free? Who's going to maintain the machines for free? Who's going to operate the machines for free?

 

[Anie]

well i agree that society may never be perfect but to embrace the things that you just mentioned is just not wise.. besides leadership to a degree.. greed is certainly not a desirable trait in somebody and power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

How is it not wise, elaborate on it a bit more for me please?

What kind of degree? Greed will always exist, why do you think we live in a society like now, there's always motive for man, when there's no motive then what??? No one will live equally as well, how can an entire planet do so?

 

[vennus4purity]

we are dependent on technology as it is... and no matter what we will steadily become more dependent on it. everything one day will most likely depend on some type of technology, the only question is will it be made affordable by the 1% of the people in todays society that control over 40% of the world wealth

 

[vennus4purity]

leadership to a degree simply means the ability to step up and decide that initiative should be taken when something isnt working out.. but i certainly didnt like having to answer to 4 different bosses every day who were in essence my masters.. if u didnt obey them u were fired. or u could quit

 

[vennus4purity]

it is not wise to value traits of men and women who have taken advantage of so many people in the world causing so much pain and suffering

 

[vennus4purity]

when there is no currency everything would be free dt3 so to answer ur question .in essence everybody.

 

[vennus4purity]

this is fun lets keep it goin. i know im havin a good time

 

[Anie]

Why do you think most people these days seem to get more unintelligent to many basic stuff, no person out there would know survival skills out on the Earth if they were too dependant on technology, also putting a ton of faith and trust into technology lasting forever is basically stupid.

Why would something not work out, you made society to be too perfect to even make any mistakes. According to what I've seen so far, leadership would be very null in your fantasy world.

 

[Anie]

it is not wise to value traits of men and women who have taken advantage of so many people in the world causing so much pain and suffering

Hey, every human being has been through pain and suffering. I embrace the fact that we never give the fuck up when life throughs shit at you and those who give up, who basically fucking cares?

 

[vennus4purity]

well like i said technology will be involved in all aspects of life one day.. the only question is would u rather have it taking your job or protecting your way of life in a society where the only true job is continually progressing technology that wouldnt cost a dime to make because the dime wouldnt exist... and on the contrary people would be more encouraged to become intelligent in a society where education is free and incorruptable