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I don't see how wanting rid of people you hate makes you anything bad, it's not your fault you hate them. I only want rid of idiots, beggars and smelly people.
 

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Not exactly, wanting to eliminate people you hate doesn't make you Fascist, not in the slightest, it simply makes you an asshole.

well it does make you an asshole, true. But it is the definition of fascism. Fascism is based on a singularity in national identity, which requires the elimination of those who don't fit the model.
 

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well it does make you an asshole, true. But it is the definition of fascism. Fascism is based on a singularity in national identity, which requires the elimination of those who don't fit the model.

yes, all Fascists eliminate their enemies, but not all who eliminate their enemies are Fascist IMHO.
 

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yes, all Fascists eliminate their enemies, but not all who eliminate their enemies are Fascist IMHO.

well that's true, but what was being described certainly sounds like fascism to me!

By the way, you're on fire with your posting today, I can't keep up!
 

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It didn't really sound like Fascism to me, he didn't mention anything about how his Ideal government would be ran, whether it would be a single or multi party state or anything of the sort, He could be picturing a world where all of the "undesirables" are eliminated and the remaining chosen ones are left to elect leaders and such.
 

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It didn't really sound like Fascism to me, he didn't mention anything about how his Ideal government would be ran, whether it would be a single or multi party state or anything of the sort, He could be picturing a world where all of the "undesirables" are eliminated and the remaining chosen ones are left to elect leaders and such.

that's also true. But taking into account that the elimination of all things that don't fit his world view was the very basis for his society as nothing else was discussed, I call fascism.
 

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that's also true. But taking into account that the elimination of all things that don't fit his world view was the very basis for his society as nothing else was discussed, I call fascism.

I can see where you're coming from with that.
 

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I think calling fascism is like calling shotgun, only with a lot more carnage.

Reminds me of a story I read about Mussolini, after Mussolini hit a child while driving his car he said to Cornelius Vanderbilt:

"Never look back, Vanderbilt, always look ahead in life."
 

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Benito Mussolini said:
Every anarchist is a baffled dictator.
Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power
We become strong, I feel, when we have no friends upon whom to lean, or to look to for moral guidance.

Certainly the guy had an interesting outlook!
 

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He certainly did, this is my personal favorite quote of his:

"Let us have a dagger between our teeth, a bomb in our hands and an infinite scorn in our hearts."
 

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He certainly did, this is my personal favorite quote of his:

"Let us have a dagger between our teeth, a bomb in our hands and an infinite scorn in our hearts."

I bet he was wild to party with. Not to mention dangerous.
 
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