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Ash1280

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09:20:48AM (DST) Thursday,June 30,2011.

As we all know @ this time same-sex marriage has been passed in New York Last weekend.
Matter of fact there maybe plans already good to go.
What about the main stream church ?
Example ?
A same-sex couple wants to get married and...they want there vows taken in a Catholic church.
We know the church's stand.
Keeping this passage in mind,can the Catholic or any church say..."Not in our church,try Jerry Springer." ?
 
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Well, I don't know why a gay couple would even want to get married in a catholic church tbh when they don't approve of gays.
 

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The church should not dictate how or who you fall in love with. It is to bad that people can't see beyond their religious views to allow people happiness. I would highly doubt the Catholic Church would allow this to happen; the church has to get in the 21st century and wake up. Since their truly archaic views are still part of their dogma, I refuse to listen to them. The church will allow priests to marry and women to become ministers of their faith...before they let any homosexual/lesbian wedding. You wonder why the Church is practically begging for people who have drifted away. As a person who has drifted and have seen these commercials that are talking about "going back" to the Church because they felt as they were missing something in their lives. I do not need a building nor a person of faith to teach me of or about Jesus, God, etc.

Note: This is the Roman Catholic Church I am referring to when I say Church.
 
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adding to what PJ said, they won't allow a previously divorced person to marry in the church either so I'd imagine it's highly unlikely that they would allow same sex couples to
 

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The church should not dictate how or who you fall in love with. It is to bad that people can't see beyond their religious views to allow people happiness. I would highly doubt the Catholic Church would allow this to happen; the church has to get in the 21st century and wake up. Since their truly archaic views are still part of their dogma, I refuse to listen to them. The church will allow priests to marry and women to become ministers of their faith...before they let any homosexual/lesbian wedding. You wonder why the Church is practically begging for people who have drifted away. As a person who has drifted and have seen these commercials that are talking about "going back" to the Church because they felt as they were missing something in their lives. I do not need a building nor a person of faith to teach me of or about Jesus, God, etc.

Note: This is the Roman Catholic Church I am referring to when I say Church.

Regardless of how you feel about religion, each religion is allowed to have their own views. So, while the church is not "dictating" who you fall in love with, they CAN dictate who they choose to marry or not in their church. That is what freedom of religion is about, not just having the freedom to choose what religion you want, but being able to have your own rules for what your religion is about.

Note: I am not involved in any religion.
 

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Ive got a better one
let say your a hemaphrodite and belong to this church cause your parents do and you decide you want to worship
do you
A. never get married cause your an abomination to the church
B. kill yourself
C. realize that man's retarded past is keeping him from learning the truth about what the words in the bible really meant
and or that they may not be the real exact meanings of what was supposed be written down
and that we in deep know what is right and wrong because of intuition and experience and can learn
 

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I believe in rights but I also believe in not making waves or putting yourself in the crosshairs unecessarily. They deserve the right to marry, but not everything can be perfect in this world. The church as an organization is going to take a long long time to change their views completely, plus, castle/Gothic architectural building weddings are cooler anyway :p

I say eff 'em and marry someplace with more tolerance!
 

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Ive got a better one
let say your a hemaphrodite and belong to this church cause your parents do and you decide you want to worship
do you
A. never get married cause your an abomination to the church
B. kill yourself
C. realize that man's retarded past is keeping him from learning the truth about what the words in the bible really meant
and or that they may not be the real exact meanings of what was supposed be written down
and that we in deep know what is right and wrong because of intuition and experience and can learn
is "C" the same as those men and women who married because their feelings for the same sex were squashed because in society such thoughts either sent them to death or ostracized from society? either way society must be willing to allow everyone to reach their happiness....
 

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is "c" the same as those men and women who married because their feelings for the same sex were squashed because in society such thoughts either sent them to death or ostracized from society? Either way society must be willing to allow everyone to reach their happiness....
yeah we have a winner
welcome to the real world

I love fantasies but I know the difference between the two
 
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I go to a UU church. They can come to my church. They would be welcomed and loved there. And if they wanted to get married the minister would be happy to perform the ceremony.
 

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Well, I don't know why a gay couple would even want to get married in a catholic church tbh when they don't approve of gays.


^^^This.

On a side note, I was wondering something the other day. When two gay people get married, how do they decide whose last name they keep or do they just keep their names as they are?
 

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In answer to the question... yes any church can tell anyone no, for any reason. They're not denying a same-sex couple the right to get married, they're denying them the ability to do so in their house. They can set whatever rules and guidelines that they want for what can and cannot be done as part of a wedding (or any other event) at their facility.
 

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^^^This.

On a side note, I was wondering something the other day. When two gay people get married, how do they decide whose last name they keep or do they just keep their names as they are?

I've seen couples sometimes hyphenate their names, or go with the one that sounds best, or whichever person feels most connected to the name.
 

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Why do churches appear to hate homosexuality than other forms of 'sin'? Isn't it hypocritical thinking for them to claim righteousness when they too have problems?
 

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Why do churches appear to hate homosexuality than other forms of 'sin'? Isn't it hypocritical thinking for them to claim righteousness when they too have problems?

Shhhh, we dare not question the actions of those with righteous friends in higher places. ;)
 

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Any gay couples are welcome at my church at anytime. And if anyone has a problem with it at my church, they can take it up with me. :ninja Everyone has a right to be there. Now as far as getting married by churches, every pastor priest has the right to deny anyone they think and not marry them. I know of a few pastors that have refused marriage to even non gay couples because they did not think they were ready for marriage.
 

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The Catholic church here in England has actually been a lot more responsive to gay marriage than the Anglican church. While not going as far as actually allowing it, they have been willing to discuss the matter; as opposed to the Anglican Church, which has categorically said no, and forever no. Kind of ironic when you consider the reason for its origins.
 
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