Would Ron Paul really be Better than any Other Republican President?

[Johnfromokc]

Other than getting us out of ongoing foreign wars, ending the Federal Reserve's control of our currency (a private bank) and legalizing weed, and maybe putting a weed up the Republican establishments ass, I do not see how RP is good for America. I can only see the oligarchy getting stronger if Pauls economic polices ever saw the light of day.

I really believe many well meaning people who support RP have not fully considered just how much worse their lives might be with a RP America. This is circulating around the net right now:

Okay, so Ron Paul wants to end the wars, GREAT! So do a lot of people, expecially on the left. So, Ron Paul wants to 'End the Fed', GREAT, do you know what he wants to replace it with? Gold... how does he think that will lead to less corruption? So, Ron Paul wants to legalize marijauna, GREAT! Did you know he also wants to legalize drugs that are extremely addictive and even deadly? What you may not know about Ron Paul is the most harmful to the 99%. Despite what he claims, he is NOT on our side. Sure, government cannot protect us from ourselves ... but that's not their job. Their job is to protect us from those people, corporations, and substances, including food, water and air - that might be harmful to us and our children. It's up to us to make our government what we want it to be, not to get rid of all of the safety nets that are there to serve the people. If Ron Paul had his way there would be no more public schools, no Social Security, no public housing for the poor, no Environmental Protection Agency, no Health and Human Services, no protection for Labor, no Civil Rights ... the list goes on and on. The worst thing that Ron Paul is against is regulation, including the market. Isn't that what caused this mess to begin with? If you support the 99% then please think twice about Ron Paul, what he is against proves that he is NOT for US.

 

[Joe the meek]

Please tell me who YOUR voting for as I would love to know who is GREAT for America

Better yet, which one candidate (or the president?) has all the right answers?

Do you think any one man can actually change the establishment?

Might as well get someone in there with the least connections LOL

 

[Johnfromokc]

Please tell me who YOUR voting for as I would love to know who is GREAT for America

Better yet, which one candidate (or the president?) has all the right answers?

Do you think any one man can actually change the establishment?

Might as well get someone in there with the least connections LOL

They are all about the same. Might as well keep Obama for another term as opposed to any of the other asshats that are running.

 

[Alien Allen]

no more public schools

Got anything to support that? Getting rid of the department of education is not eliminating public schools. It is merely relegating the issue to the states where it belongs

no Social Security

Too simplistic. He wants to phase it out. Which is logical for all intents and purposes a ponzi scheme.

no public housing for the poor

Same as public schools. He wants to eliminate the feds from doing this. It is a state issue

no Environmental Protection Agency

His view is to eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create – not to Washington. EPA is a mess as he rightfully states which has undue influence on the states

no Health and Human Services

Same as other issues he wants this to be handled by the states

no protection for Labor

He thinks labor should have the right to organize but there should be no specific benefits for unions.

no Civil Rights

That is utter nonsense. He said he would not support the act of 1964. Yet he stated the following ::: PAUL: I think we would be better off if we had freedom, and not government control of our lives, our personal lives, and our — and policing the world.

the list goes on and on.

And the distortions go on and on

I think people against him don't even undertstand or bother to look at his actual postions and reasoning for arriving at those beliefs.

Anybody who thinks the feds do better at managing things than the feds is an enabler for more of the same waste and debt we are currently saddled with

 

[Johnfromokc]

Allen - all I said was that information was going around the internet. All groups engage in hyperbole. But one glaring FACT is that RP is a Trickle Down Economics believer, and thats enough for me to be wary of him.

Now if we are going to have another asshat Republican president, I'd rather it be him than any of the other idiots running.

 

[Alien Allen]

He is a republican in name only

He is a libertarian

I don't expect you to agree with him John because that is not what you believe will work. I would say it should at least be given a chance because the status quo or adopting the Euro model are only a different road to failure.

As Stone has said though it all is a moot point unless corruption is dealt with. In that regard I think Paul has the most credibility to address that issue also.

 

[banned]

Ron Paul should go fishing with his grand kids....all Presidents and any other Government functions should retire by the age of 67. Presidents can sit 2 terms and all others only one term.

 

[banned]

They are all about the same. Might as well keep Obama for another term as opposed to any of the other asshats that are running.

Without a doubt....

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[banned]

Think its also a good idea together with Government health Insurance to have a mandatory retirement at the age of 67.
(shame they demolished the 65 age) and put a limit on what people can earn on the side after to avoid them going back to full time work again.
Young people need a start in life with a job oportunity and be able to grow and learn.

 

[Alien Allen]

Think its also a good idea together with Government health Insurance to have a mandatory retirement at the age of 67.
(shame they demolished the 65 age) and put a limit on what people can earn on the side after to avoid them going back to full time work again.
Young people need a start in life with a job oportunity and be able to grow and learn.

why not just kill people at the age of 65 since you want to neuter them financially.

They are no longer useful and just a drain on society

Hey look at the health care savings. All the more to redistribute to everybody I guess eh

 

[Panacea]

Reminds me of this lol (Meant for laughs. Please relax ahead of time, Ron Paul fans )

Q: I am unemployed and can't afford health insurance. What would you do for me?

Ron Paul: I'll whine about past government actions, but in the end, I will tell you to go buy insurance that you already said you cannot afford. Oh, and I would give you a tax deduction, which will be a great benefit since you have no income to offset.

Back in my day, we traded health care services for goats, and if you were diagnosed with MS, we would see you and give you aspirin for one goat. Today, if you are diagnosed with MS, you will see a neurologist who will order an MRI for you and prescribe drugs that were developed using cutting edge technology and years of research. Does that cost one goat today? No. Why? Government.

 

[Johnfromokc]

why not just kill people at the age of 65 since you want to neuter them financially.

You're rapidly approaching geezerhood arent ya Allen?

 

[banned]

why not just kill people at the age of 65 since you want to neuter them financially.

They are no longer useful and just a drain on society

Hey look at the health care savings. All the more to redistribute to everybody I guess eh

Think you have a better life and chance to live in retirement than to keep working till you drop dead.

 

[Accountable]

The thread has already abandoned the OP, but ......

Dr Paul wants the federal gov't restricted to what our Constitution says it can do. That restricts NOTHING from the state governments. People seem to think that if Washington doesn't do it then it doesn't get done. Look at Massachusetts. They didn't wait for Washington to have universal healthcare; they didn't have to. If you want your state to initiate a program, fight for it. You can do that without forcing it on the entire nation. That way, people who want to live the way you do will flock to your state, and those that don't will move. All this without anyone having to find different citizenship or learn a new language.

That's what used to be the beauty of America. Now everybody wants to homogenize everything.

 

[banned]

I thought the healthcare system in Massachusetts is close to bankrupt...?

 

[banned]

I believe Texas can still be independed....:willy_nilly:and make Perry President:24:

 

[retro]

Think you have a better life and chance to live in retirement than to keep working till you drop dead.

I disagree completely. My step-grandfather is 78 and he goes to work every day. He doesn't have to, as he owns several patents that bring him enough income for he and my grandmother to live comfortably. But he continues to work because he enjoys what he does and thinks he'd be bored out of his mind otherwise. For him, continuing to do what he loves is his "retirement". If I had to guess, I'd say that my dad will end up being the same way. He's a physician, and enjoys seeing his patients, and he's in the process of getting a residency program, they'll begin having residents starting next summer. He loves to teach younger doctors, loves seeing patients, and would like to continue working while he can.

Who are you to mandate what people can and cannot do? This is why I'm a Libertarian... stay the fuck away from me and don't tell me what I can and can't do.

 

[banned]

Good for your Dad...I will step aside and take any oportunity to retire not only to make room for youngsters and help unemployment to fall but also that I can enjoy the rest of my life the way I like it best.....on da Lake ....and will do some voluntairy work if I feel like it.

 

[Johnfromokc]