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Kat

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when talking to your s.o. and they ask you if you would want to be with them the rest of your life...after you previously brought up talking of marriage to them....shrugging and saying i guess isnt the best way to show you care



if thats not an eye opener i dont know what else is
 
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Wow that was just not compassionate at all! I guess that answers some questions.
Im sorry. I can totally sympatheize with you.
 

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You gotta take things like that in stride. What was his mood when he said it? How much shit does he have going on in his mind? Stressed out? Pissed off because of work? Any other problems going on?

There are some things I'm extremely enthused about that are coming up, but at the moment I just don't care and don't want to talk about it.
 

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You gotta take things like that in stride. What was his mood when he said it? How much shit does he have going on in his mind? Stressed out? Pissed off because of work? Any other problems going on?

There are some things I'm extremely enthused about that are coming up, but at the moment I just don't care and don't want to talk about it.
ok i understand him being stressed out...but when your gf cries on your shoulder about how shitty shes been feeling lately...telling you shes reached the end of how much she can take...when she cries to you about needing someone who even sleeps in the same bed as her....you listen...when you are with someone you are supposed to care about them...realize that if somethings been stressing her out for over a month now that you should care enough to do something different about it. you show that you care in some way.

james i understand that you dont know whats going on here...but i wouldnt have posted this if i wasnt sure...theres only so much of not caring a person can take before they snap....no matter who they are....or whats at stake

this is only the one of many things said to me lately...not to mention when i was told i just got pregnant to keep him...

take things in stride...yeah it was taken in stride...it was taken in stride with everything else that has been said lately...and no i shouldnt be snapping on you...but it just hit me wrong when you said that...sorry

ignore this please...ignore the person who is stupid enough to be here and so unhappy and not do something to change it...im just stupid is all
 

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ok i understand him being stressed out...but when your gf cries on your shoulder about how shitty shes been feeling lately...telling you shes reached the end of how much she can take...when she cries to you about needing someone who even sleeps in the same bed as her....you listen...when you are with someone you are supposed to care about them...realize that if somethings been stressing her out for over a month now that you should care enough to do something different about it. you show that you care in some way.

james i understand that you dont know whats going on here...but i wouldnt have posted this if i wasnt sure...theres only so much of not caring a person can take before they snap....no matter who they are....or whats at stake

this is only the one of many things said to me lately...not to mention when i was told i just got pregnant to keep him...

take things in stride...yeah it was taken in stride...it was taken in stride with everything else that has been said lately...and no i shouldnt be snapping on you...but it just hit me wrong when you said that...sorry

ignore this please...ignore the person who is stupid enough to be here and so unhappy and not do something to change it...im just stupid is all

I am with you on the caring part. Its exhausting when you keep thinking things are gonna change, that tomorrow will be different, that the person you love will show you some compassion.
 

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Its better than being lied to about wanting to be together... Someone *cough* told me that we would be together forever and grow old together.. and look what happened there.. It was a lie just like everything else in his life.

- On another note though.. Sometimes guys arent that great with words or showing affection. You have to be strong for them. I know its not right, but guys are wired differently than us.
 

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Ok. I'll stay outta here then. Sorry for giving you a guys point of view. Guys can't turn on and off the emotions like women seem to be able to. You were to the point and he still missed it. It's not like you subtly beat around the bushes. So hell if I know, Kat.

I don't even know what to tell you to try to make you feel better, because as you pointed out, I have no idea what is going on with you two. After you snapped at me a month or so ago I just gave up trying to cheer you up and stayed out of the threads. Sorry.
 

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Yeah, men are wired differently to us.

With how you are feeling though, you were looking for that 'pick me up', something nice to lift you.

He just doesn't seem aware of yr feelings right now at all.

That was cruel suggesting you got pregnant just so's he wld stay with you and he seems to be very insensitive towards you in general, so that is not going to help you feel better in yourself.

Did you go see your Dr yet? I really think that will help, cos being far from 'stupid', you will see that yourself too, that you are not, once you have had the support you really need right now. Your body still hasn't adjusted from the baby etc by the sound of things, plus there's been those times you have had since, where he has caused you upsets. That is all adding to how you feel anyway, causing it to build up more and more.

You are entitled to a decent conversation about what's on your mind. Why should you be made to feel stupid and worthless when he is the one with the couldn't care less attitude?

The fact that this is something that means a lot to you and it seems he isn't bothering, makes you come out of this the decent one Kat.

Only people who bother are the ones who deserve the respect - that person is you right now.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you or how you are. You have to remember all the time, that you are a lovely, kind person and with the attitude he has, it isn't even worth being dignified.

You take care and start doing what you want, start putting you first. Go to see yr dr, chat to him first and after a while, gradually, things will start to feel better for you in yourself. You will of course need to go out a bit too, that'll help you too. Then you will see more clearly that you are a good person and lovely with it.

You will get through this, you just need to decide what you will tolerate and won't tolerate anymore. Give yourself back that control, as far as what you want and what you do.:);)
 

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Ok. I'll stay outta here then. Sorry for giving you a guys point of view. Guys can't turn on and off the emotions like women seem to be able to. You were to the point and he still missed it. It's not like you subtly beat around the bushes. So hell if I know, Kat.

I don't even know what to tell you to try to make you feel better, because as you pointed out, I have no idea what is going on with you two. After you snapped at me a month or so ago I just gave up trying to cheer you up and stayed out of the threads. Sorry.
i understand you were giving me a guys poitn of view and i appreciate it....how did i snap at you a monnh ago...im sorry if i did...and im sorry for doing it now...i didnt mean to and tonight i was just trying to explain more.


not even just to james just to everyone im sorry...for how ive been...for how i am...
 

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You have nothing to apologize for. You need friends now and support. If you get snappy, then you do, you have to let it out somewhere and besides, no way should you be keeping it all locked up, that'll just make things worse too. Don't you worry about it.

Take care.:)
 

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You don't need to apologize to me. Take it easy and if it means that much to you, you have to work at it. Even when he doesn't seem like he cares, you have to know he does.

If he's anything like me, having to constantly reassure someone of whatever starts to get old. I hate having to reassure everyone of something over and over and over.
 

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dont get me wrong a little reassurance never hurt anyone...and no im not someone who constantly needs to be reassured...but i am someone who deserves to hear i love you back...someone who deserves the same respect in return...
 

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Here's the problem I see with you popping that into the conversation on him.

A month or so ago, weren't you ready to move into your parents and end the relationship? You for whatever reason, probably Kylie, went back. You got back together. You know he loves you, you know he's there for you, and you pop this question at him and expect him to bend over backwards with emotion to match yours. You simply can't expect that.

I would be a little thrown off if I was him after all of this, and then you get mad when he doesn't respond the way you think he should or want him to. Now you're making assumptions as to his real feelings on this subject, and how is that fair to him? He didn't say what you wanted, so suddenly he's an ass and he doesn't love you. It sounds like a classic case of your needing reassurance, once again, to me.

He may not have given you the 'best way to show you care'. But the fact that he didn't blow up and was probably confused out the ass on the conversation piece you dropped on him is a good sign, IMO.

You have to take things slow, you can't suddenly start dropping hints like that on a guy that you just made amends with.

I guess I don't understand women. I'll be damned if I know. I'm not in a relationship, and I'm horrible with them. Take my point of view and either ignore it or run with it. It's up to you.
 

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James, you seem like a really great guy but useless at dealing with women.;) Don't try to understand them, just carry on being nice to them without trying to figure them out and you'll do fine!;)

Kat, sorry to hear you're having a hard time and we're thinking of you and hoping you can work it out so you're all happy.:)
 

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Everyone has different ways of dealing with their feelings though and I remember Kat telling us only recently about how nice Bo had been one day. We all get pissed off at our partners at one time or another and just because we express our emotions differently and maybe insensitively dosen't mean we don't love our significant other.
 

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Oh, I agree 100%. But when the insensitivity becomes the usual behavior, to the point where it makes you sit back and think "Hmmm", then there is a problem.

What Kat thinks is insensitivity is usually an overraction on her part.

She got mad at Bo for having a few drinks every night to help him relax after a looong day at work a few months ago. You know why? She was worried the impression drinking is leaving on her new 6 month old baby. She was so mad about it and I tried to talk to her about it. I think I got through to her in saying it's going to be a long time before drinking leaves an impression on her.

She overreacted and I think she's doing it again with this.

Bo has never been a super in-tune sensitive guy, and again, she's overreacting at his lack of sensitivity.

It helps when you know some history on Brandi here, and you can't just up and go blaming Bo for not being mr sensitive.
 
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