Why Do Some Christians Find Evolution and God Noncompatable?

[doombug]

I don't hate people for believing in the Bible. I just find it strange that people believe in a book which has been proved to be fictional.

Fair enough statement. Now consider this: The bible wasn't written to be a historical reference book. Is it so strange to believe people can still use it for another purpose?

 

[alice in chains]

your posts towards him look like youre frustrated by him questioning you. idk

 

[Peter Parka]

Fair enough statement. Now consider this: The bible wasn't written to be a historical reference book. Is it so strange to believe people can still use it for another purpose?

I find people who live their life based on Mein Kamf disturbing. The bible is just as offensive if not more so that that book.

 

[doombug]

I find people who live their life based on Mein Kamf disturbing. The bible is just as offensive if not more so that that book.

Nah, huge difference between them and I doubt you have read either.

 

[doombug]

your posts towards him look like youre frustrated by him questioning you. idk

No not frustrated, I'm more curious about the underlying theme of anger toward Christianity than anything. I am pretty much an outsider to all belief systems even though I have studied some in my search. As an outsider looking in I have to say I'm disappointed in Agnostics and Atheists. I thought there would be more to it but all I see are a bunch of folks using circular logic to bullshit themselves and everyone else into thinking they are onto something. If I go by what I have read on this forum I see nothing but an angry group that has it in for Christians. I know some Agnostics and they are not like that. Sure they remind me of folks that drive El Camino vehicles and have mullet haircuts because they can't quite make up their minds what they want but they aren't filled with so much Anti- Christian vitriol. They are good people.

 

[Minor Axis]

On the contrary no. I am really curious as to why you have such a problem with people who believe in the bible. Such vitriol for those who believe in something you consider to be a fairy tale. If you don't believe in it then fine don't believe. There is freedom of religion here in the US and that also means you can choose to believe or not how you wish. So what if someone wants to believe in what you consider fiction. How upset would you get if a young child were to tell you that you would be put on Santa's naughty list if you are bad? Would it bother you? Would you be worried you would recieve a lump of coal in place of goodies for Christmas?

You are way off base in assuming I'm upset. My criticisms are neither cruel nor bitter. And you feel the need to emphasis freedom of religion? Let's talk about that. This country (U.S.) was founded in part by people fleeing religious persecution, that based on religion being intertwined in government. My critique for those who believe in the Bible is that they are easily influenced, and decide upon what is true based on their emotions, just don't confuse them with any facts. But to each his own, no problem, sincerely.

That said, the difference is that no adults believe in Santa. The really dangerous theists are those people who not only believe in an unsubstantiated holy book primarily because it makes them feel good, and also want their religion in the middle of our government dictating policy. These efforts lead to such things as the recent attempt to define life at the moment of conception and government funded faith based education and assistance. The best example of putting religion in charge is the Middle East. This is my primary fear, but I assume your fine with that as long as it is Christians in charge and not Muslims. Or would having fundamentalist Muslims in charge be a good thing?

 

[Peter Parka]

Nah, huge difference between them and I doubt you have read either.

In that case you assume wrong. Big lesson for you there, don't assume things, it will make you look foolish. I find the idea of a god comitting worldwide genocide, killing thousands of innocent men, women and babies and then trying to say it's a good thing, disgusting beyond belief.

 

[darkcgi]

so far I have learned that some of the people that I would have thought never to have read the bible , have and have many times
and some of the people that I would have thought have read it many times have never read it at all
so dont assume people have or have not just go with it or just ask

 

[Francis]

No, I mean his other website.

Again, I don't see your point and I don't look at his sites often, if ever to be honest..

But if this is the site you are referring to again, his name is posted.. So qet to the chase if this ain't it and tell what the heck site you keep referring to

http://www.howstuffworks.com/about-author.htm

Marshall Brain, Founder
Marshall Brain is the founder of HowStuffWorks. He holds a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and a master's degree in computer science from North Carolina State University. Before founding HowStuffWorks, Marshall taught in the computer science department at NCSU and ran a software training and consulting company. Learn more at his site.

NOTE, I have never done so much work for someone I don't care about.. :willy_nilly:

 

[doombug]

You are way off base in assuming I'm upset. My criticisms are neither cruel nor bitter.

That is really a matter of perception. I have considered and continue to study many religions but I have respect for those who choose to worship how they wish. Even though I may not believe in reincarnation I don't need to make up an excuse, like calling it fiction, as to why I don't believe. I can simply say it isn't for me which is good enough because I am not trying to convert anyone, change anyone's mind or convince myself of anything.

And you feel the need to emphasis freedom of religion? Let's talk about that. This country (U.S.) was founded in part by people fleeing religious persecution, that based on religion being intertwined in government. My critique for those who believe in the Bible is that they are easily influenced, and decide upon what is true based on their emotions, just don't confuse them with any facts. But to each his own, no problem, sincerely.

People in general can be easily influenced by their emotions not just those who believe in the bible. Why do you want to assign common human traits to only those who believe in the bible?

That said, the difference is that no adults believe in Santa.

This is false. Some adults like to refer to the spirit of giving as Santa. Are people not allowed to have a shift in paradigms when they mature?

The really dangerous theists are those people who not only believe in an unsubstantiated holy book primarily because it makes them feel good, and also want their religion in the middle of our government dictating policy. These efforts lead to such things as the recent attempt to define life at the moment of conception and government funded faith based education and assistance. The best example of putting religion in charge is the Middle East. This is my primary fear, but I assume your fine with that as long as it is Christians in charge and not Muslims. Or would having fundamentalist Muslims in charge be a good thing?

I do agree many negative things have been done in the name of religion by man.

I don't have anything against Muslims or Christians but I am thankful for freedom of religion. With humans being as flawed as we are the idea of choosing one's own beliefs is the best in my opinion. One can consider all kinds of beliefs and choose for themselves.

 

[doombug]

In that case you assume wrong. Big lesson for you there, don't assume things, it will make you look foolish.

I didn't say I assumed anything. I used the word "doubt" which doesn't even imply I assumed anything.
I see many here constantly mis-quote to support false statements.

I find the idea of a god comitting worldwide genocide, killing thousands of innocent men, women and babies and then trying to say it's a good thing, disgusting beyond belief.

How many men, women and babies has God killed himself? Do you know or are you just "assuming"? hahaha! Hilarious!

 

[doombug]

Again, I don't see your point and I don't look at his sites often, if ever to be honest..

But if this is the site you are referring to again, his name is posted.. So qet to the chase if this ain't it and tell what the heck site you keep referring to

http://www.howstuffworks.com/about-author.htm





























NOTE, I have never done so much work for someone I don't care about.. :willy_nilly:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Brain. The answer is here.

 

[Francis]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Brain. The answer is here.

Well first of all that is the Mobile App.. Second his name is listed and if its in a sub link I am tired of looking at his shit.. That said, if you go to the full web page it has his full info. And also he does not control Wiki..

Like I said, get to the point..

Cheers..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Brain

 

[doombug]

Well first of all that is the Mobile App.. Second his name is listed and if its in a sub link I am tired of looking at his shit.. That said, if you go to the full web page it has his full info. And also he does not control Wiki..

Like I said, get to the point..

Cheers..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Brain

Here let me Google that for you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Marshall+Brain+wikipedia

Now when you click on this link let it Google it for you.

Then go to the beliefs and interests section and read....

 

[Peter Parka]

I didn't say I assumed anything. I used the word "doubt" which doesn't even imply I assumed anything.
I see many here constantly mis-quote to support false statements.



How many men, women and babies has God killed himself? Do you know or are you just "assuming"? hahaha! Hilarious!

Doubt or assume, you know what I mean, got it wrong and are simply splitting hairs in a sad attempt to justify yourself.
Make your mind up, do you believe in the Bible or not because if you do believe in it which you have strongly given us the impression of then you will believe that god is a genocidal maniac. So which is it?

 

[doombug]

Doubt or assume, you know what I mean, got it wrong and are simply splitting hairs in a sad attempt to justify yourself.

I wouldn't want to "assume" that I know what you mean. Why don't you tell me?

Make your mind up, do you believe in the Bible or not because if you do believe in it which you have strongly given us the impression of then you will believe that god is a genocidal maniac. So which is it?

Maybe I take the Agnostic view toward the bible: Maybe I believe in it, maybe I don't. But if I did why would I believe that God is a genocidal maniac? Is there proof of this idea?

 

[Peter Parka]

Haha! I wasn't expecting you to give me a straight yes or no answer! You're seriously coming into a load of religious debates and you have no idea about the story of the flood in the Bible??? Maybe you should go away, do a bit of basic research and then come back when you know what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[doombug]

Haha! I wasn't expecting you to give me a straight yes or no answer! You're seriously coming into a load of religious debates and you have no idea about the story of the flood in the Bible??? Maybe you should go away, do a bit of basic research and then come back when you know what the fuck you are talking about.

I'm just looking at the situation Peter. You claim the bible is fiction and then say God is a genocidal maniac. You contradict yourself because if the bible is fiction as you claim then the flood never happened. Maybe you want me to come back when I buy into your bullshit.

 

[Peter Parka]

Nice dodging the question when, unless you are completely thick, you know what I'm getting at. You want to tell us if you believe in the bible or not yet or are going to carry on dodging the question because you are stuck?

 

[BadBoy]

Fair enough statement. Now consider this: The bible wasn't written to be a historical reference book. Is it so strange to believe people can still use it for another purpose?

Exactly. It was written as a bunch of fictional stories to try to explain things.