Why are non-marital childbearing rates high in Advanced cultures??

[mazHur]

If a person is going to be unfaithful to their partner they will do it whether they're married or not.

In away yes but don't you think a woman and her child is in greater risk than a single family in the event they don't get any support from the government???

 

[Niamh]

In away yes but don't you think a woman and her child is in greater risk than a single family in the event they don't get any support from the government???

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking?

 

[mazHur]

Fidelity has nothing to do with it. And as Niamh said, people will be unfaithful regardless of their relationship. Case in point: my mother. Cheated on my dad. I have a half-brother that came about because of it. They were married. But I know plenty of couples who haven't been married and never cheated on each other. You're not understanding that the relationship has nothing to do with it. It has to do with the people IN the relationship.

Yeah, my bad, I am not accustomed to such relationship, The woman and I would be killed if i tried it in my country or in many parts of Asia. Does this mean such relationship is patently Western trend because of distancing from religion or spirituality??

 

[mazHur]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking?

simple
I inquired that would a woman and her child out of wedlock wouldn't be in greater risk of destitution than a secure married single family in the event they ( the former) didn't get any support from your state???

 

[Niamh]

simple
I inquired that would a woman and her child out of wedlock wouldn't be in greater risk of destitution than a secure married single family in the event they ( the former) didn't get any support from your state???

If her partner left her you mean and they weren't married? well he would still be legally financially responsible for his child though, married or not

 

[anathelia]

Yeah, my bad, I am not accustomed to such relationship, The woman and I would be killed if i tried it in my country or in many parts of Asia. Does this mean such relationship is patently Western trend because of distancing from religion or spirituality??

I'm not sure that it has to do with a distancing from religion. I had intended to save myself for marriage. There's a lot of pressure to be a certain type of person in this country, and it's hard to think someone will continue a relationship with you if you're NOT that type of person. And the "sexual education" in public schools is atrocious. Instead of telling you how to practice safe sex, they tell you just to not have sex. And THAT is the problem. Kids don't know the smart things to do when they do get themselves in a position where they might have sex. No one taught them about birth control or anything else because, then we're condoning premarital sex. Teaching abstinence is good and all, but when you tell a kid to keep their hands out of the cookie jar, that's exactly where they want to put their hands, so to speak.

 

[mazHur]

If her partner left her you mean and they weren't married? well he would still be legally financially responsible for his child though, married or not

but what if he got debilitated and didn't earn nor you or he got any support from state??

 

[Niamh]

but what if he got debilitated and didn't earn nor you or he got any support from state??

But that could happen to a married couple who split up as well

 

[mazHur]

I'm not sure that it has to do with a distancing from religion. I had intended to save myself for marriage. There's a lot of pressure to be a certain type of person in this country, and it's hard to think someone will continue a relationship with you if you're NOT that type of person. And the "sexual education" in public schools is atrocious. Instead of telling you how to practice safe sex, they tell you just to not have sex. And THAT is the problem. Kids don't know the smart things to do when they do get themselves in a position where they might have sex. No one taught them about birth control or anything else because, then we're condoning premarital sex. Teaching abstinence is good and all, but when you tell a kid to keep their hands out of the cookie jar, that's exactly where they want to put their hands, so to speak.

I thought such relationship was not permissible by the Scriptures hence 'condonation' of a Biblical edict for socio-economic reasons sounds simply revolting?

Sex is a natural urge and every adolescent or even a child knows or gets to know about it instinctively when the
inside 'lion' begins to roar! In rural areas children learn about sex from copulating animals and in cities they learn from the internet...so easy and simple!

As far as jar is concerned that is not the right analogy....it applies more to grown ups who want not the cookies but the jar itself!! .. Not fair to blame the kids...a simple admonishment or warning will keep them away from the jar or just keep it under lock and key? for a burnt child dreads the fire!!

I think relationship outside marriage puts a greater financial and other bars on the state rather than the actors in the play?

 

[mazHur]

But that could happen to a married couple who split up as well

but they can survive the predicament by ''familial support''??

 

[retro]

I thought such relationship was not permissible by the Scriptures hence 'condonation' of a Biblical edict for socio-economic reasons sounds simply revolting?

You don't seem to understand that the United States is a secular nation.

 

[Niamh]

but they can survive the turpitude by ''familial support''??

Oh ok, I think I'm following you now, you don't think the state should support single parents? I half agree with you, I think it shouldn't be made as easy for people as it is that's for sure. It seems that the more kids you have here (I'm in Ireland) the more you get from the government and you have a culture of people who basically bleed the system by having more and more children. Having said that though there are plenty of people who aren't married with kids but are perfectly capable of supporting themselves and do so.