Who here can say....

[Willow]

I can honestly say that I was never bullied or did that to anyone... but that was because I grew up a long time ago, in another country, and went to a very strict, girls only, catholic school....
The nuns would have killed anyone that did that!!.. D:24:

 

[anathelia]

I didn't get "bullied" necessarily, but I got my fair share of shit. Like finding out my two best friends were making fun of me to each other behind my back because we lived in a mobile home and we didn't have many clothes and stuff. Or the guy who asked me on a date just to feel me up and have his friends harrass me over the computer for months afterwards for being a slut. :dunno

I guess it's bullying in that that kind of stuff changed the way I trust people and the way I felt/feel about myself. But I don't really look at it that way. People are just cruel sometimes. I survived, and I suppose that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

 

[Willow]

I was never bullied before! Neither had bullied anyone. I was the one who'd come to the defense of the 'bullied ones'! Nope! not through cat fights ( hate those) instead followed school protocols. Being in an all girl's school and school run by nuns-they were very strict with bullying. If such occurs, the bully was ousted out of school immediately

I saw this after I posted my other reply..

I would add that even after all the years that have passed since I went to school, I had the opportunity to visit my old school a few years ago during one of my trips, and there is still no bullying going on there..

I have been a naturalized citizen for over 30 years and I consider the US my country.. and I love my country, so my words should not be considered an attack by any means..

I raised four kids in this country, and did my share of volunteering at their schools when they were young.. I saw an enormous amount of bullying in their schools... which brings me to my deductions that society has changed a lot in some countries, and those changes have not been for the best sometimes..

In this country, there is too much PC and not enough common sense left..
Adults act like children, and want children to act like adults..
Parents leave all responsibilities on the school teachers..
Some people -not all- give birth to their children, and then, when those kids are in school, expect the schools and teachers to take over and completely wash their hands... they think their job is finished..
Yet, when there is a problem, and the teachers or school do the job they expect them to do... they are the first to cry foul!..
I've seen home schooled children being bullied when they decided to attend high school..
One of my daughters friend was home schooled through eight grade, and then enrolled in high school so she could be part of my daughter's group ... that poor kid was bullied mercilessly for the next four years..

No wonder kids and adults turn out to be bullies!.. :ninja

 

[AUFred]

I saw this after I posted my other reply..

I would add that even after all the years that have passed since I went to school, I had the opportunity to visit my old school a few years ago during one of my trips, and there is still no bullying going on there..

I have been a naturalized citizen for over 30 years and I consider the US my country.. and I love my country, so my words should not be considered an attack by any means..

I raised four kids in this country, and did my share of volunteering at their schools when they were young.. I saw an enormous amount of bullying in their schools... which brings me to my deductions that society has changed a lot in some countries, and those changes have not been for the best sometimes..

In this country, there is too much PC and not enough common sense left..
Adults act like children, and want children to act like adults..
Parents leave all responsibilities on the school teachers..
Some people -not all- give birth to their children, and then, when those kids are in school, expect the schools and teachers to take over and completely wash their hands... they think their job is finished..
Yet, when there is a problem, and the teachers or school do the job they expect them to do... they are the first to cry foul!..
I've seen home schooled children being bullied when they decided to attend high school..
One of my daughters friend was home schooled through eight grade, and then enrolled in high school so she could be part of my daughter's group ... that poor kid was bullied mercilessly for the next four years..

No wonder kids and adults turn out to be bullies!.. :ninja

My wife is the bookkeeper at a public school for 3ed & 4th graders. She can agree with much of what you posted. Not only has PC taken over for common sense but the demands on the public school system is exasperated by demands by the government that all children be treated equally. Those demands include all children no matter their disabilities be afforded every opportunity other children have. This includes special buses & nurses on field trips. The parents of those children who are least likely to succeed know their rights and know the schools have no choices. Those parents are least likely to lift a finger to help the school as well.

 

[Guyzerr]

Yup... I was bullied a lot when I was younger because of a very bad stutter. That's why I detest bullies today and will always stick up for the little guy. I've done that since I was a teenager.

Edit: I don't stutter anymore unless I get very excited, pissed, mad or extremely tired.

 

[purpledove]

I saw this after I posted my other reply..

I would add that even after all the years that have passed since I went to school, I had the opportunity to visit my old school a few years ago during one of my trips, and there is still no bullying going on there..

I have been a naturalized citizen for over 30 years and I consider the US my country.. and I love my country, so my words should not be considered an attack by any means..

I raised four kids in this country, and did my share of volunteering at their schools when they were young.. I saw an enormous amount of bullying in their schools... which brings me to my deductions that society has changed a lot in some countries, and those changes have not been for the best sometimes..

In this country, there is too much PC and not enough common sense left..
Adults act like children, and want children to act like adults..
Parents leave all responsibilities on the school teachers..
Some people -not all- give birth to their children, and then, when those kids are in school, expect the schools and teachers to take over and completely wash their hands... they think their job is finished..
Yet, when there is a problem, and the teachers or school do the job they expect them to do... they are the first to cry foul!..
I've seen home schooled children being bullied when they decided to attend high school..
One of my daughters friend was home schooled through eight grade, and then enrolled in high school so she could be part of my daughter's group ... that poor kid was bullied mercilessly for the next four years..

No wonder kids and adults turn out to be bullies!.. :ninja

:nod: :nod: :nod: Being like yourself as a naturalized citizen, been here in Us for 17 years- i can see the big difference of how schools are run here. It's very different in ways as you said. The lack of responsibility on the parents, too much work, no quality time for kids, too much internet/video games! There's no longer that communication among members of the family as everyone seems to be just doing their own thing. It was a culture shock for me as the family values are lost. Not all of course, but i can see the difference when there is no discipline. The kids themselves end up avenging themselves for how they're treated or bullied by others It becomes a never ending cycle :ninja

 

[Thornless]

Been bullied, never bullied.

 

[AstriaPorta]

I never been bullied, and never bullied anyone

I was mostly the kid that was invisible... no one cared to even bother

 

[Willow]

My wife is the bookkeeper at a public school for 3ed & 4th graders. She can agree with much of what you posted. Not only has PC taken over for common sense but the demands on the public school system is exasperated by demands by the government that all children be treated equally. Those demands include all children no matter their disabilities be afforded every opportunity other children have. This includes special buses & nurses on field trips. The parents of those children who are least likely to succeed know their rights and know the schools have no choices. Those parents are least likely to lift a finger to help the school as well.

I saw so much abuse from some of those parents -most of them mothers- during those years!... they demanded so much, but whenever they were asked to volunteer on one of those trips, or help in the classroom, they always had something to do and could not go...
I knew in fact, that they were sitting on their asses watching soap operas, while other mothers would take a sick or vacation day to go volunteer and take care of their kids!..
That made me furious!..
I was very relieved when my kids were out of those schools and I could finally get away from there..

I'm still friends with most of the teachers that taught my kids and have other friends that are teachers and still working... they all have a lot to say about common sense, PC, bullying, parental responsibility and much more...
It's a very sad fact of life..

 

[LifeofPJ]

I was small and all my friends were big I didn't get bullied. Besides I never really had many enemies either. Er body <3 pj

 

[Willow]

:nod: :nod: :nod: Being like yourself as a naturalized citizen, been here in Us for 17 years- i can see the big difference of how schools are run here. It's very different in ways as you said. The lack of responsibility on the parents, too much work, no quality time for kids, too much internet/video games! There's no longer that communication among members of the family as everyone seems to be just doing their own thing. It was a culture shock for me as the family values are lost. Not all of course, but i can see the difference when there is no discipline. The kids themselves end up avenging themselves for how they're treated or bullied by others It becomes a never ending cycle :ninja

It is a huge culture shock for people that were raised in other countries especially, because the values tend to be kept longer there.. I've been here so long, that I have adapted to everything here, and sometimes don't notice things, but when I travel, I can see the differences very clearly..
We came here with different ideas, views and priorities, and managed to teach them to our children.. but sometimes, even they get caught in that never ending cycle.. :ninja

My kids are all adults and have kids of their own now, but I never stopped my job of teaching them and their children.. It's the least I can do..

Sorry Fred... PurpleDove and I seem to have hijacked your thread...

 

[AUFred]

No problem. My wife and I were the involved parents. My wife volunteered at the schools and took field trips. We were at every play & awards thing for our children. I took off work when my son went to an environmental camp for almost a week 2 or 3 times. One of those trips included me getting a bad case of poison ivy. My wife took similar trips with our daughter. We both were chaperones who could be counted on. We both challenged our children to learn outside of school as well. We both read and corrected every paper our children wrote all the way through school. We tutored our children in those classes they were weak or had a weak teacher. I am sure our kids were bullied but for my son like me his ended when he was not the smallest in class anymore.

 

[Mystic]

just read the first few post of this thread, so pardon me as i butt in....

When i first came to Canada with my strong scouse/Afrikaner accent a few kids tried to pick on me, but anyone who knows scousers knows you only try that once.

My first year of high-school same thing...only because i was smaller than everyone else... again, i refer back... they only did that once.

I think when it comes to bullies, you just have to show them you are crazier than they are. My words are what got me out of most of my situations in school and if they didn't understand me, well they got a broken nose real quick. My dad taught me how to box before i was even 8 years old.:ninja:24:

The way i saw it, and i have tried so hard to teach my son this too, is when someone threatens you you make sure they know if they touch you at all, it better be worth the pain you will do to them in return. Most bullies don't like the thought of retaliation.

Now saying all that, with these stupid laws in affect now, that actually help the bullies more than the kid they are bullying, its just not worth it. For myself, my son has been bullied BADLY this year. the police were involved and it came down to me saying to the police and the teachers, ' if you don't solve this, i will. and by that i mean, you'll be calling the police on me and not the bully.' It solved things for a short period, however the bullies of today don't seem to have the brains of the bullies of yesterday...too much inbreeding, should have swallowed kind of people,because even THAT has not worked.

The bully my son deals with has a mother who is just as bad. She called me on the phone and threatened me. I said,' try saying that to my face.' Needless to say, i called the police- she and her son went into anger management but it hasn't done a dickybird to help them. they are still fucked up. I hope i get seated near her at my sons graduation as I won't hesitate to flatten her or her son for what they have done to my son, if they even utter one bloody word to me or my son.thumbdown

 

[AUFred]

just read the first few post of this thread, so pardon me as i butt in....

When i first came to Canada with my strong scouse/Afrikaner accent a few kids tried to pick on me, but anyone who knows scousers knows you only try that once.

My first year of high-school same thing...only because i was smaller than everyone else... again, i refer back... they only did that once.

I think when it comes to bullies, you just have to show them you are crazier than they are. My words are what got me out of most of my situations in school and if they didn't understand me, well they got a broken nose real quick. My dad taught me how to box before i was even 8 years old.:ninja:24:

The way i saw it, and i have tried so hard to teach my son this too, is when someone threatens you you make sure they know if they touch you at all, it better be worth the pain you will do to them in return. Most bullies don't like the thought of retaliation.

Now saying all that, with these stupid laws in affect now, that actually help the bullies more than the kid they are bullying, its just not worth it. For myself, my son has been bullied BADLY this year. the police were involved and it came down to me saying to the police and the teachers, ' if you don't solve this, i will. and by that i mean, you'll be calling the police on me and not the bully.' It solved things for a short period, however the bullies of today don't seem to have the brains of the bullies of yesterday...too much inbreeding, should have swallowed kind of people,because even THAT has not worked.

The bully my son deals with has a mother who is just as bad. She called me on the phone and threatened me. I said,' try saying that to my face.' Needless to say, i called the police- she and her son went into anger management but it hasn't done a dickybird to help them. they are still fucked up. I hope i get seated near her at my sons graduation as I won't hesitate to flatten her or her son for what they have done to my son, if they even utter one bloody word to me or my son.thumbdown

I am sorry. I read that and can't stop laughing. I hate bullies. Like you said too much inbreeding they are not real smart. My son was small for his age and got picked on badly growing up. Most of his bullies are not as tall as I am and my son is now between 6'-2" & 6'-3" so he towers over his ex-tormentors.

 

[Mystic]

I am sorry. I read that and can't stop laughing. I hate bullies. Like you said too much inbreeding they are not real smart. My son was small for his age and got picked on badly growing up. Most of his bullies are not as tall as I am and my son is now between 6'-2" & 6'-3" so he towers over his ex-tormentors.

:thumbupLOL ...i'm hoping my son will have his growth spurt this summer before he heads into high-school. hes only just 5 feet now. He'll likely be as tall as his dad once the growth begins. His dad is 6 feet.:nod:I'm a short arse. Only 5'2. LOL

 

[FreightTrain]

I've never bullied, but have been a victim of bullying for quite some time. I was always one of the shortest kids in the class until my growth spurt hit as a Freshman. Having two older brothers taught me not to take any shit and I've never backed down from a bully and ended up stopping the bullying on my own. Being a martial arts student since the age of 11 also helped.

 

[anodomi]

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Obviously serious bullying, the type that leads to kids taking drastic measures is something else. But I think every child will meet another kid they don't like who will call them a name, or make fun of them. You just have to learn from it, because more adult versions of that behaviour will crop up throughout your entire life.

I was never bullied, but I did have some boys in middle school make fun of me and my last name - which I didn't understand because I was never one to put myself out there .....just leave me alone!!

It's better I think in high school, because there are usually more kids and more groups to fit in with.

I never bullied anyone - and I feel so bad for kids that are and don't see a way out

I do feel that adults need to make sure that kids feel safe in school.