Where are their tasers now?
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sundvlfn88
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I agree on the Tazer part, but police are trained to protect themselves. Not saying that they are right about the situation, but they do have to protect themselves against people who appear to have a weapon or something that could resemble a weapon under a shirt or whatever the case may be.
this shit really irks me. I have law enforcement back ground and you are trained that after you ID yourself as law enforcement, you step through the levels accordingly ... if the suspect goes straight to deadly force.. so do you.. and the MOM called the cops.. and TOLD them a gun was involved.. never made mention that her kid had a mental illness.. or that he didnt have a gun.. which she easily could have... the police did what they were supposed to do, and what anyone in their position would do. Im so friggin sick of this crap.. sorry but Im under investigation right now for a 4 minute delay in my launch time to go fly out in some nasty friggin weather to save a mans life.. (fisherman 70 NM offshore with emphasima - ) has an asthma attack at 3 am.. out there risking my and my crews ass to pull someone off a boat who shouldnt be there due to a medical condition.........we spend 45 minutes in flight doiing cpr so the hospital can bring him back to life .. but he dies the next day.. and its our friggin fault.. BS ... just like this.. BS.. support those who serve you .. if someone says their a damn cop.. get on the friggin ground and dont act like an idoit.. and dont call the cops and tell them your kid has a gun when he doesnt.. if you do.. its your damn fault.
HouseOvaries
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The cops and the kid were both idiots. The cops shouls know not to fire, unless they have proof that a weapon is really being used. The kid is just as dumb too, because he should've taken his medication at the time.
GameCrazed
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Eh, another dead crazy. Nothing to sweat.
To answer the title question, you don't bring Tazers to a gun fight. If a suspect is reaching for a gun, you don't taze them. As soon as you stop tazing (and there are restrictions on how long you can taze continuously), they can still go for the gun.
The cops might have been right in using deadly force, it's hard to say without being there. But 20 shots fired at this boy without seeing a gun is excessive. Does it really take 20 shots to take down some boy with an unseen gun? With multiple cops aiming their weapons at him there would have been time to wait and see if he actually had a weapon. Who did they think they were dealing with, Wyatt Earp?
I agree, we weren't there. 20 shots seems like a lot, but in that situation it's gotta be tough. Heck, it coulda been 10 cops fire 2 rounds each, we weren't there.
What I think is worse is that they fired 20 shots and only hit him 8 times. That's pathetic.
I honestly don't believe the eyewitness reactions in these cases. The radio this morning was playing a bunch of it, and (go figure) the black witnesses were bitching about the white cops who did the shooting. I take it all with a grain of salt, but I'd say it's a safe bet some of these witnesses have their own agendas to pursue, which is just sad if you ask me.
Why is it when a black person sees a white cop do something imoral, they are automatically portrayed as having their own agenda? Why cant they just be an eyewitness? Would you bitch if the shoe was on the other foot Donnie? I know I would. If I saw some police kill a kid in my neighborhood in that fashion. I would be mad too. Send 20 bullets flying at a child and also into my neighborhood. Could have possibly killed the people they are trying to protect. I'd be upset.
I didn't make it a race issue, these people on the radio did. I swear every one of the 5 I heard said something along the lines of "these white *radio bleep* cops come in here and *bleep* start shooting at *bleep* everything". If they wanted to "just be an eyewitness" they would have absolutely no need to mention the race of the cops.
Well unfortunately none of us were there to see what really happened...
and as far as eye witness accounts... well they always need to be taken with a grain of salt. It doesn't matter who the eye witness is.
and as far as eye witness accounts... well they always need to be taken with a grain of salt. It doesn't matter who the eye witness is.
It was weird. The news radio people didn't mention it at all. I'm sittin there like "why do they keep saying the cops were white". I just fail to see how it's an important piece of information.
They also played the 911 call from the kid's mom and you could hear him in the background keep yelling "I have a gun". I sure wish the mom had said something like "he keeps saying he has a gun but I know he doesn't because he has mental problems it's only a hairbrush please don't shoot him"...
groundpounder
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If you ever want to worry about history, talk to two different eyewitnesses about the same thing. :smiley24:
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